Is having this as a test criteria *that* burdensome? Similar to another
blocker that was being proposed, maybe it's not something that _must_ be
tested, but if it's known to be broken that it should block a final. Maybe
I'm missing something, but unless the image is over the capacity of a DVD,
what would prevent the success of an installation?

On Thu, Sep 20, 2018, 21:54 Ed Greshko <ed.gres...@greshko.com> wrote:

> On 9/21/18 9:47 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 6:08 PM Ed Greshko <ed.gres...@greshko.com>
> wrote:
> >> On 9/21/18 7:42 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 2:47 PM Samuel Sieb <sam...@sieb.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> That is true, but there is also a reasonable chance or losing them,
> >>>> breaking them, or other random failures.  When a flash drive dies,
> it's
> >>>> gone, very difficult to recover if even possible.  I would not
> recommend
> >>>> a flash drive (or DVD) alone for long-term storage.
> >>> All CD and DVD consumer burnable (R or RW) are not suitable for long
> >>> term storage. The dyes used are not gonna very long, maybe a few
> >>> years. If they're kept in the dark at stable temperature, I'd be
> >>> surprised if they lasted 5 years. Bluray is a different story, and
> >>> with proper storage shows some promise of being readable for quite a
> >>> while, but you're gonna have to put a drive, cables, and a computer
> >>> into cold storage along with the discs so... good luck.
> >>>
> >> FWIW, I think I must be very lucky.  I have just checked several of my
> TDK DVD-RW
> >> disks that were written between 2003 and 2005.
> >> I'd forgotten all about them until reading this.  They've been sitting
> on the top of
> >> a cabinet that is exposed to indirect sunlight and temp ranges of
> >> between the 60's and 80's and high humidity.  (I fight with my wife
> about the A/C in
> >> the summer).
> >>
> >> All of them read just fine.  Which is good since I'd been looking for
> the photos of
> >> one of our departed cats which were "lost" due to an HD failure.
> > Yes, lucky. Make copies, quick!
> >
>
> Well, since I did forget about them and it has been 15 years (3X your
> upper end
> estimate) I don't think they are that important.  I'll
> check them again in another 15 years.  If I have a DVD drive at that
> time.  :-)
>
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