RE: Test Data and IGs.. was RE: sample data files for 837i

[Tom Drinkard]

Craig, As one of the co-chairs of the Health Care Claims workgroup at X12N, I’m always interested in constructive criticism of the implementation guides.  Although X12 may not be able to help in the creation of test data, we all would benefit from any and all suggestions to help make the guides more usable for everyone.   I’d like to invite you to attend the next X12 trimester meetings in Miami.  The meeting dates are October 6-11, 2002.  You can find out more about the meetings, membership, agendas, etc by logging on to www.x12.org.   In the meantime, please take advantage of the existing processes for resolving any areas of concern. This very list serve is an excellent resource for exchange of ideas on how to get things done. If you find contradictions in the implementation guides, please go to www.hipaa-dsmo.org, register as a user (it’s free!), and enter your “business reason” for the change request along with a “suggested change”.  There is a process that has worked well to review and act on each of the requests.   Best of luck to you in your HIPAA compliance.   Tom Drinkard EDIT, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (678) 795-1251 (voice) (678) 795-1575 (fax)   -----Original Message----- From: Craig Frey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 2:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Test Data and IGs.. was RE: sample data files for 837i   I am sending this from my private account, because these are my personal thoughts, and are in no way to be construed as representing anything OTHER than my personal thoughts on this issue.   My take on the dearth of test case availability, is that the HIPAA implementation guides are so absolutely self-contradictory in so many areas, that no is willing to go out on a limb and say &#34;This is what we consider to be a valid test case&#34;. Speaking as an individual that has been going line by line through these guides from a QA standpoint for the last few months, I cannot believe anyone can realistically use these documents in their current condition as a standard for a trillion dollar industry to be held to. There are rules that make it impossible for any valid transaction to pass in some cases, and strict adherence to these guides to determine &#34;HIPAA Compliance&#34; whatever that may be, is going to be a recipe for disaster.   just my $.02 worth   [EMAIL PROTECTED]     &gt; -----Original Message----- &gt; From: Martin Scholl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] &gt; Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 9:11 AM &gt; To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] &gt; Subject: RE: sample data files for 837i &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; The lack of testfiles is a crying shame.  I got into hot water &gt; complaining about this in the &#34;Testing&#34; listserv group a few &gt; months ago. &gt; Claredi, a private company, is in partnership with WEDI for test data &gt; and on Claredi's &#34;free stuff&#34; --&amp;gt; &#34;technical &gt; scenarios&#34; web site they have 4,739 837p transactions, but they &gt; all &gt; have mistakes. That's  all that is available. No 837i files though &gt; volunteers have submitted hundreds of 837i scenarios, they never made &gt; it into the public domain. &gt; And X12 837 has at least testfiles.  There are none for the other &gt; protocols. &gt; HIPAA implementation is a little bit like reading the manual for a &gt; Boing 767 and then starting to fly at night, instruments only in &gt; stormy &gt; weather. &gt; &gt; It would be a great service to all participants if testfiles could be &gt; shared. I would be willing to host them on my website. &gt; &gt;     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com   Please note that it may take up to 72 hours to process your request. <P>The WEDI SNIP listserv to which you are subscribed is not moderated.  The discussions on this listserv therefore represent the views of the individual participants, and do not necessarily represent the views of the WEDI Board of Directors nor WEDI SNIP.  If you wish to receive an official opinion, post your question to the WEDI SNIP Issues Database at http://snip.wedi.org/tracking/. Posting of advertisements or other commercial use of this listserv is specifically prohibited.   Please note that it may take up to 72 hours to process your request. The WEDI SNIP listserv to which you are subscribed is not moderated. The discussions on this listserv therefore represent the views of the individual participants, and do not necessarily represent the views of the WEDI Board of Directors nor WEDI SNIP. If you wish to receive an official opinion, post your question to the WEDI SNIP Issues Database at http://snip.wedi.org/tracking/. Posting of advertisements or other commercial use of this listserv is specifically prohibited.