Well, this eps approach is pretty klunky, and I'm still hoping someone comes up with a more TeX'y solution to the original question. There may be some legitimate uses for this sort of thing--e.g. when there are two conflicting sources for the same piece. I think the offical word for that is ossia.
For newly invented ornaments, I know for sure there's a more TeXy approach--make font characters using Metafont--but I don't have the slightest idea how to do that. There's also something called Metapost, which Hiroaki Morimoto used to construct Type M postscript slurs. Maybe that's another option. Again, I have no idea at all how to use it. On the matter of Telemann's ornaments, after I wrote my little rant, it occurred to me that in selected movements of various of his sonatas Telemann did include an ornamented melodic line together with a pristine one. The best known examples are in the Methodical Sonatas, but I know there are a few others. I haven't seen any facsimiles of any of these. In the modern editions I have seen, the ornamented lines continue throughout the entire movement. I suppose it's not impossible that he might have written out a main-note trill in one of these, but I still doubt it (because it would sound wierd), I've never heard it, and the two Methodical Sonatas I have--in c minor and g minor--don't have anything like that. But I'd be glad to have someone prove me wrong. --Don Simons > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Trent J > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 8:57 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [TeX-music] Detailed ornament variants > > > Hi, > > You've just answered a question that I was just about to ask. I > recently got > a hold of Veracini's Op 2 Sonatas where he uses some made up ornaments to > indicate various string strokes and accents. I've been puzzling > over how to > add these to a pmx file but your answer to this question has provided me > with a way of drawing this images and using them as eps files. > > Thanks again. > > Trent > > From: "Don Simons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Typesetting music with TeX <[email protected]> > To: "Typesetting music with TeX" <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: [TeX-music] Detailed ornament variants > Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 20:07:59 -0700 > > I'm sorry to see that no one has responded to this query. I don't have a > "fully baked" solution, but one that is something less than half-baked and > rather round-about. You could generate a separate .eps file > containing just > the small staff. This could be done with pmx+musixtex+dvips+gsview. Then > using inline TeX you could insert that as a graphic into the PMX file with > something like > > \zcharnote{12}{\epsffile{myepsfile.eps}}\ > > Somewhere you have to include > > \\input epsf\ > > I've tested this and it works. > > Now let me take off my PMX hat and put on a music publisher's > hat. I suggest > that for the music of Telemann, you might be able to save > yourself all this > work if you honestly ask yourself why you need to include a realization of > an ornament like this in the first place. You never said what your source > is, but I'll bet that this sort of helpful hint doesn't appear in anything > Telemann himself wrote. Baroque players were expected to insert ornaments > where appropriate. If for some reason you still want to insert this > particular ornament this way, are you going to do it in lots of > other places > too? Wouldn't that make the score look pretty cluttered? Maybe you could > just add ornament symbols in parentheses. > > Furthermore, except in early Italian baroque music, and especially in > Telemann, all baroque trills start above the main note, not on it. If you > put this particular suggestion into your score, you'll be suggesting > something inconsistent with historical performance practice. > > --Don Simons > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > > Sass Bálint > > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 7:13 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [TeX-music] Detailed ornament variants > > > > > > Dear all! > > > > I'm trying to typeset Telemann's Sonata in F major. > > In the second movement there are detailed ornament variations > > at some places in a temporary smallsized staff. > > > > E.g. the main tune is "( g4d a8 )", > > and the detailed variant above it is "( g3 a g a g4 a8 )", > > written in a small staff which exists only above this half bar. > > > > Is there a method to create such a thing with PMX/MusiXTeX? > > Perhaps visually turning a staff on and off temporarily somehow > > or something like that? > > > > I did not find the solution in PMX or MusiXTeX manual ... > > > > Thanks: > > SASS Bálint > > _______________________________________________ > > TeX-music mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://icking-music-archive.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music > > > > > _______________________________________________ > TeX-music mailing list > [email protected] > http://icking-music-archive.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music > > > _______________________________________________ > TeX-music mailing list > [email protected] > http://icking-music-archive.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music > _______________________________________________ TeX-music mailing list [email protected] http://icking-music-archive.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music

