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Sent cellularly.
-Don

> On Oct 23, 2013, at 12:53 PM, Phil Winkler <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> All the inactive ingredients can be considered solvents if they are liquids.
> 
> At 10/23/2013 10:51 AM -0700, Louise Power wrote:
>> Here is what the Tech-Nu label says. I'm not a chemist, so which one of 
>> these ingredients is a solvent?
>>  
>> Active ingredient:
>> 
>> Grindelia robusta 3X - Purpose:anti-itch
>> 
>> Inactive ingredients:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> alcohol 0.4%, aminomethyl propanol, benzethonium chloride, carbomer, 
>> fragrance, polyethylene beads, polyoxyethylene (4) lauryl ether, polysorbate 
>> 20, purified water, SD alcohol 40B 6.4%
>> 
>> Uses:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Temporarily relieves burning, itching and pain due to poison ivy, oak and 
>> sumac.
>> Removes poison ivy, oak and sumac oil (urushiol) from skin.
>> 
>> Warnings:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Do not use on severe, draining rashes.
>> Do not use if pregnant or nursing, ask a health professional before use.
>> Keep out of reach of children
>> If swallowed, get medical help or contact a Poison Control Center right away.
>> Keep out of eyes.
>> If condition worsens, or if symptoms persist more than 7 days or clear up 
>> and occur again with a few days, stop use and consult a physician.
>> Do not use on children under 2 years of age, consult a physician.
>> 
>> Directions:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> To treat a rash: (adults and children 2 years and older)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Squeeze a desired amount of product into hand and mix with equal amount of 
>> water.  
>> Apply to affected skin and surrounding areas and gently rub for 15 seconds; 
>> avoid breaking the skin.
>> Rinse with cool running water and towel dry gently.
>> Repeat as needed.
>> 
>> To remove urushiol oil: (adults and children 2 years and older)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Squeeze a desired amount of product into hand and mix with equal amount of 
>> water.  
>> Apply to exposed areas and gently rub for 15 seconds; if hypersensitive, 
>> wash entire body with Tecnu Extreme.
>> Rinse with cool running water and towel dry.
>> 
>> Other information:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Store at 59 to 89°F (15 to 30°C)
>>  
>> From: [email protected]
>> Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 11:13:49 -0500
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy
>> 
>> When affected, I have found -tremendous- relief of the lesions by simply 
>> spraying them with a jet of very hot water. The sensation is much more 
>> gratifying than scratching but also completely stops the itching, no meds 
>> needed after. Hot as I could stand, ONLY on the wound. Strange but true.
>> 
>> Sent cellularly. 
>> -Don
>> 
>> On Oct 23, 2013, at 11:06 AM, Mary Thiesse <[email protected] > wrote:
>> 
>> I have to say that my instincts tell me that solvents seem like a bad idea 
>> in this case. Working in the lab if there was any kind of chemical splatter 
>> or spill it was always soap and water to wash off the area. Solvents can 
>> enable the offender (whatever it is) to penetrate the skin. So using these 
>> products seems contrary to what I've learned over the years. Personally I 
>> think I'll stick with soap (Dawn) and water for removal of the oils and then 
>> treat with topical steroids if needed.
>> 
>> Mary TZ
>> 
>> 
>> From: Tom Rogers < [email protected]>
>> To: caverarch <[email protected]>; [email protected] 
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 5:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy
>> 
>> I have had it many times. I have now from TCR. The best stuff to use is 
>> mineral spirits. The main ingredient in tecnu. Any alcohol based liquid will 
>> work. Rub it on immediately. Rinse with water after about ten minutes. There 
>> will still be a rash but it will stop it from spreading. Rub down tools with 
>> alcohol also to remove poison ivy oil. I suspect my repeated exposures has 
>> built immunity. 
>>  Tom
>> 
>> --- Original Message ---
>> 
>> From: "caverarch" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: October 22, 2013 6:12 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy
>> 
>> I am a bit more sensitive to the vine than I was in my youth. I'm sure this 
>> is the result of repeated exposure from lots of field work in the eastern 
>> woodlands and blissfully disregarding contact back in those days.
>> 
>> Roger G. Moore
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: George Veni <[email protected]>
>> To: Texas Cavers < [email protected]>
>> Sent: Tue, Oct 22, 2013 5:40 pm
>> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy
>> 
>> Poison ivy never bothered me for many years, but I learned that immunity can 
>> sometimes be lost by repeated exposure. So my advice to those who are 
>> currently immune is to avoid it as much as possible. 
>> 
>> George
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Sheryl Rieck <[email protected] > 
>> Date: 2013/10/22 16:31 (GMT-07:00) 
>> To: Mark Minton <[email protected]> 
>> Cc: TexasCavers < [email protected]> 
>> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy 
>> 
>> 
>> Good things to know. Since I am not allergic, I haven't been aware of the 
>> other treatments.
>> 
>> Sheryl
>> 
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>> 
>> On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Mark Minton <[email protected]> wrote:
>>         A related product is Tecnu < 
>> http://www.teclabsinc.com/products/poison-oak-ivy/tecnu>, also commonly 
>> available at pharmacies.  These products wash away the oily residue that 
>> causes the rash .  They work best when used as soon as possible after 
>> exposure, but can help even the next day or two.  Calamine (pink stuff), on 
>> the other hand, is simply a topical anesthetic and antiseptic.  It reduces 
>> itching, but doesn't really cure the problem (treats the symptoms, not the 
>> disease).  (I'm also not affected by poison ivy, but my partner Yvonne is 
>> extremely sensitive.)
>> 
>> Mark 
>> 
>> 
>> At 06:06 PM 10/22/2013, Charles Goldsmith wrote:
>> I'm very allergic to it, I swear I can just look at a plant and it jump on 
>> me, always have been.  The best stuff I've ever found to get rid of it is 
>> http://www.walgreens.com/store/c/walgreens-poison-ivy-wash/ID=prod6113607-product
>>  
>> 
>> Of course that's a store brand, there are other products that are named 
>> brand.  I've used the walgreen's brand with very good results.  it's 
>> expensive, but worth every cent.
>> 
>> Pink stuff didn't seem to work very well, my mom always put it on me.  There 
>> was also some form of tablet she would buy from the local pharmacist, drop 
>> it into a pint of water and spread the resulting concoction on me, but I 
>> swore it was just water, never seemed to help and I don't know the name 
>> either.
>> 
>> If you can, try the above link
>> 
>> On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 4:47 PM, David <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Anybody know the best proven treatment for a poison-ivy rash from personal 
>> experience?
>> 
>> Anybody have a good theory about how to boost immunity ?
>> 
>> 4 things that I feel make it worse are scratching, sunlight, heat or hot 
>> water, and drying off with bath towels, all of which seem unavoidable.
>> 
>> Is it true that some ethnic groups are not allergic, and that white-skinned 
>> people are the most allergic ?
>> 
>> David Locklear
>> 
>> 
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