Tell me about it! Cavers are so funny. I love it when everyone gets so
excited about going caving. That was not nice of me to call you a
tool. I apologize. You are just fine and I appreciate the help.

On 12/15/09, Charles Goldsmith <[email protected]> wrote:
> Putz!
>
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 5:47 PM, ellie :) <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Tool
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Charles Goldsmith <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Well Said Gill
>>>
>>> Charles
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Gill Edigar <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > An observation--
>>> > Officers are elected to run the day-to-day operations of companies,
>>> > organizations, governments, and other such groups of people in lieu of
>>> > having a council or committee mico-managing the trivial details. They
>>> > are
>>> > expected to make certain decisions on behalf of the organization
>>> > without
>>> > consulting the entire membership or executive council or board of
>>> > governors.
>>> > For instance, they would be expected to go buy a roll of tape or box of
>>> > staples if they were needed for the conduct of business. Likewise, if a
>>> > special mailing were required for a safety alert or an election they
>>> > could
>>> > conceivably be expected to spend $100 on postage stamps to see the
>>> > mailing
>>> > got to the members--without asking anybody. That is their job. Along
>>> > that
>>> > same train of thought, I would suggest that if the Chairman and
>>> > newsletter
>>> > editor decided to send out free digital copies as advertising to
>>> > prospective
>>> > new members of the various college clubs they would have it completely
>>> > within their powers to do so--and be praised for their
>>> > aggressiveness--and
>>> > need to ask no one's permission. Indeed, there is a long and respected
>>> > history of the TSA doing just that. No board action would be
>>> > necessary--or
>>> > even expected, for that matter. Especially if no expenditures were
>>> > required.
>>> > Now then, I'm not a TSA member so I would never presume to tell the TSA
>>> > how
>>> > to conduct its business. I'm merely speaking as an independent Texas
>>> > caver
>>> > bystander and interested observer. So, I have been both TSA Chairman
>>> > and
>>> > TEXAS CAVER editor on more than one occasion over the years. I would
>>> > presume
>>> > that most Texas cavers would suspect that I have a bit of experience
>>> > with
>>> > officer power and responsibilities and how they can get things
>>> > constitutionally accomplished. Believe me, creativity can be a valuable
>>> > tool
>>> > in the running of a volunteer organization. Both Davy Crockett and Sam
>>> > Houston used to proclaim, "Be sure you're right and then go ahead." No
>>> > officer will ever be chastised by the membership for handing out free
>>> > advertising supporting the aims and goals of the organization and
>>> > encouraging membership. It is the right thing to do. And no other
>>> > current
>>> > advertising brochure will fulfill that function better than a free
>>> > digital
>>> > copy of The TEXAS CAVER sent (or made available) to all non-TSA-member
>>> > NSS
>>> > cavers in Texas. So now, they can go ahead. No board action is
>>> > required.
>>> > It
>>> > is an officer responsibility. I'm looking forward to seeing old Sam and
>>> > Davy
>>> > crack a smile over this one.
>>> > --Ediger
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
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