No worries, i took it as good natured ribbing, i assumed thats how you meant it. :)
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:50 PM, ellie :) <[email protected]> wrote: > Tell me about it! Cavers are so funny. I love it when everyone gets so > excited about going caving. That was not nice of me to call you a > tool. I apologize. You are just fine and I appreciate the help. > > On 12/15/09, Charles Goldsmith <[email protected]> wrote: >> Putz! >> >> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 5:47 PM, ellie :) <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Tool >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Charles Goldsmith <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Well Said Gill >>>> >>>> Charles >>>> >>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Gill Edigar <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > An observation-- >>>> > Officers are elected to run the day-to-day operations of companies, >>>> > organizations, governments, and other such groups of people in lieu of >>>> > having a council or committee mico-managing the trivial details. They >>>> > are >>>> > expected to make certain decisions on behalf of the organization >>>> > without >>>> > consulting the entire membership or executive council or board of >>>> > governors. >>>> > For instance, they would be expected to go buy a roll of tape or box of >>>> > staples if they were needed for the conduct of business. Likewise, if a >>>> > special mailing were required for a safety alert or an election they >>>> > could >>>> > conceivably be expected to spend $100 on postage stamps to see the >>>> > mailing >>>> > got to the members--without asking anybody. That is their job. Along >>>> > that >>>> > same train of thought, I would suggest that if the Chairman and >>>> > newsletter >>>> > editor decided to send out free digital copies as advertising to >>>> > prospective >>>> > new members of the various college clubs they would have it completely >>>> > within their powers to do so--and be praised for their >>>> > aggressiveness--and >>>> > need to ask no one's permission. Indeed, there is a long and respected >>>> > history of the TSA doing just that. No board action would be >>>> > necessary--or >>>> > even expected, for that matter. Especially if no expenditures were >>>> > required. >>>> > Now then, I'm not a TSA member so I would never presume to tell the TSA >>>> > how >>>> > to conduct its business. I'm merely speaking as an independent Texas >>>> > caver >>>> > bystander and interested observer. So, I have been both TSA Chairman >>>> > and >>>> > TEXAS CAVER editor on more than one occasion over the years. I would >>>> > presume >>>> > that most Texas cavers would suspect that I have a bit of experience >>>> > with >>>> > officer power and responsibilities and how they can get things >>>> > constitutionally accomplished. Believe me, creativity can be a valuable >>>> > tool >>>> > in the running of a volunteer organization. Both Davy Crockett and Sam >>>> > Houston used to proclaim, "Be sure you're right and then go ahead." No >>>> > officer will ever be chastised by the membership for handing out free >>>> > advertising supporting the aims and goals of the organization and >>>> > encouraging membership. It is the right thing to do. And no other >>>> > current >>>> > advertising brochure will fulfill that function better than a free >>>> > digital >>>> > copy of The TEXAS CAVER sent (or made available) to all non-TSA-member >>>> > NSS >>>> > cavers in Texas. So now, they can go ahead. No board action is >>>> > required. >>>> > It >>>> > is an officer responsibility. I'm looking forward to seeing old Sam and >>>> > Davy >>>> > crack a smile over this one. >>>> > --Ediger >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Visit our website: http://texascavers.com >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >>>> >>> >>> >> >
