http://www.caver.net/pbss/join.html

Now there you go. David is that good enough?

I tested it and it seems to work okay.

Bill

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Butch Fralia" <[email protected]>
To: "'David Locklear'" <[email protected]>; "'Texas Cavers'"
<[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 6:17 PM
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Re: online membership information


> David,
>
> For a time, PayPal was making it look like you had to join PayPal whenever
a
> vendor used them for online credit card transactions.  You would have to
> scroll down to a button that said something on the order of "don't have a
> PayPal Account".  They've cleaned up their act, probably because of vendor
> pressure and it goes right into a credit card payment screen with an
option
> to log into PayPal to the side.
>
> I need to rework the PayPal transaction on the TSA site to be more like
the
> TCMA page, fill out your information before going to the PayPal site to
put
> in your credit card number and the information will already be there like
> TCMA.  All it takes is time.
>
> BTW:  You don't put your credit card number in until you reach the PayPal
> secure transaction page.  TCMA and TSA have no knowledge of your credit
card
> number and other information associated with it.  All they see is that
> somebody (contact information included) did a transaction for some amount
of
> money.
>
> In the maybe not too distant future you'll be able to order books and pay
> for them online on the TSS website.
>
> Butch Fralia
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Locklear [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 4:27 PM
> To: Texas Cavers
> Subject: [Texascavers] Re: online membership information
>
> After reviewing the previous post I sent,
>
> I realized that some of those on-line membership forms
> required either mailing the form in or mailing a check,
> or downloading a .pdf application.
>
> The Western Cave Conservancy required an extra click
> to get to their application page.
>
> The TCC required mailing in the application.
>
> The TCMA form is still the best one I have found so far.
> However, I believe both the TCMA and TSA forms
> require you to first go to a PayPal form, and then click
> that you don't have PayPal to choose some other form
> of payment?    ( I haven't tried it, so I don't know )
>
> The Arizona grotto page mentioned, lets you join their
> statewide organization at the same time you join the
> grotto.     Actually, it reads more like your required to
> join.     Another bizarre question on their form is:  What
> color do you code your gear?
>
> For only $ 1,000, you get a 10 year membership
> to the Missouri Karst Conservancy.
>
> While in Florida, its free:
>
> http://www.karstconservancy.org/help/membership.asp
>
>
> Here is another application:
>
> http://members.aol.com/caveconser/ccvapplication.htm
>
> It doesn't look like the UIS has a membership application.
> I take it, that each country appoints a delegate and there
> are elected officers by the delegates.
> ( I only skimmed their web-site. )
>
> AMCS doesn't have membership, but does accept
> donations by mail.
>
> There are probably tons of on-line forms in other
> languages for cave organizations.    I didn't find
> any in Spanish on my first attempt.
>
>
> Does this form make any sense?
>
> http://www.psc-cavers.org/psc/MembershipApplication.html
>
>
> Many caving web-sites have a link to a .pdf application
> such as:
>
> http://www.caves.org.au/downloads/membership_form.pdf
>
> You can find other clubs to join using Mr. Bentley's
> MegaLink site:
>
> http://www.caver.net/megalink.html
>
> Some grottos require proof of NSS membership on their
> applications:
>
>
http://www.caves.org/grotto/huntsville/docs/Membership%20Application%20Hi.pd
> f
>
>
> In summary,
>
> I would like to give a special thanks to all the speleo web-masters
> out there who are
> working diligently to make join caving clubs more user friendly.
> It is my opinion,
> that the internet is going to someday play a valueable role in caving
> and raising
> money for cave conservation.
>
> David Locklear
> Fort Bend County, Texas
>
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