Can you help me with the unsubscribe address to texascavers? I usually save 
those helpful guide emails but I can't find the one for texascavers. I'm sorry 
to bug you with that. 

I gotta go. I'm just completely pissed off and that isn't good for anyone. No 
one will miss me all that terribly anyway :-) life goes on

Kara

----- Original Message ----
From: Charles Goldsmith <[email protected]>
To: Fritz Holt <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:25:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] OTtex vs. Cavetex

Constructive criticism is needed, how you present that can go a long
ways towards how it will be received.  I don't know how Texas Cavers
are perceived, I've always lived here and been around us, but I've
never heard bad things from other groups.

Are we a bit on the wild side, well yeah, but most of us are Texans
and that's our nature.  :)

I understand that the list for TAG NET is very structured, and I'm
guessing moderated, but I also understand its very selective about who
gets on it, and that they also have some quality postings there.

I like to think that Texans are a bit more social, we welcome everyone
with open arms.

This whole debacle about postings and off-topic wouldn't be a big
deal, most large list-servers have this issue, I stepped in only
because many said they were leaving, and I want us to grow.  If the OT
list helps this one stay on track and grow, it's doing as I intended.
If not, we'll re-evaluate things and go from there.

Charles

On 1/16/08, Fritz Holt <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Bob,
>
> Your points are well taken. A very few cavers don't care much what other 
> cavers think of them. I am not one of them. I have said things that I regret 
> but don't think that I have ever criticized an individual, group or the job 
> that they are doing.
>
> Criticism, constructive or otherwise, should be directed to the individual 
> and not put on the open forum. The world is reading this stuff and it is 
> damaging to the image of Texas cavers.
>
> Fritz
>
>

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