Let's just give it some time and see.  So far I really like it.
This said - I use GMAIL only for cavetex and now ot-cavetex.  This makes it
just about perfect.
I have to say I feel a little victorious in this.  There were people who got
pissed off in a major way because I foolishly weighed in on my personal
opinions about 'creation science' and evolution - and it apparently was a
tipping point.  Rather than censor (or censure) people who's bad OT behavior
had created frustration and irritation - the OT forum was created.  I think
this was a truly brilliant solution.  I think it may have further irritated
the more officious among us - but there's a quip I have about "people who
can't take a joke".....
-Don C

On Jan 16, 2008 12:25 PM, Charles Goldsmith <[email protected]> wrote:

> Constructive criticism is needed, how you present that can go a long
> ways towards how it will be received.  I don't know how Texas Cavers
> are perceived, I've always lived here and been around us, but I've
> never heard bad things from other groups.
>
> Are we a bit on the wild side, well yeah, but most of us are Texans
> and that's our nature.  :)
>
> I understand that the list for TAG NET is very structured, and I'm
> guessing moderated, but I also understand its very selective about who
> gets on it, and that they also have some quality postings there.
>
> I like to think that Texans are a bit more social, we welcome everyone
> with open arms.
>
> This whole debacle about postings and off-topic wouldn't be a big
> deal, most large list-servers have this issue, I stepped in only
> because many said they were leaving, and I want us to grow.  If the OT
> list helps this one stay on track and grow, it's doing as I intended.
> If not, we'll re-evaluate things and go from there.
>
> Charles
>
> On 1/16/08, Fritz Holt <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Bob,
> >
> > Your points are well taken. A very few cavers don't care much what other
> cavers think of them. I am not one of them. I have said things that I regret
> but don't think that I have ever criticized an individual, group or the job
> that they are doing.
> >
> > Criticism, constructive or otherwise, should be directed to the
> individual and not put on the open forum. The world is reading this stuff
> and it is damaging to the image of Texas cavers.
> >
> > Fritz
> >
> >
>
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