Charles,
     I found 2 suckers to help moderate the list.
Thanks again...

Bill
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Charles Goldsmith 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 1:19 PM
  Subject: Fwd: [Fwd: nmcaver Digest, Vol 34, Issue 1]


  Howdy Bill!

  If no one else offers to take over, I'll offer my asssistance.  I have two 
conditions though: I won't moderate, I'll operate it as I do cavetex, the other 
is that I won't pay for the transfer of the domain, a group or individual will 
have to donate the proceeds to transfer, probably $30 or so and that will get a 
couple of years added to the domain registration.  If someone else offers to 
take over, then no worries. 

  I'll help if I can and its needed.

  Charles

  ---------- Forwarded message ----------
  From: Pete Lindsley < [email protected]>
  Date: Jul 2, 2007 11:21 AM
  Subject: [Fwd: nmcaver Digest, Vol 34, Issue 1]
  To: Charles 'wokka' Goldsmith <[email protected]> 

  Charles, here's you chance to help out some NM cavers. I think many of
  them are on Texas Cavers, so yet another possibility is just to invite
  them to join the Texans (some of which subscribe to the NM list as well). 

    - Pete


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  Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 11:01:17 -0400
  From: [email protected]
  Subject: [Nmcaver] ATTENTION NM MAILING LIST USERS (Admin message)
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  Greetings,
      I appreciate everyone subscribing to this list and hope that it
  has served everyone well, as all things go and at some point must end, 
  so effective
  9-1-07 this mailing list will be shut down unless some changes happen.
      There are numerous reasons for this. Basically the list runs
  itself and is not that much of a maintenance nightmare. There are 
  times when I have to manually delete hundreds of SPAM emails and there
  has been a significant increase in SPAM in the past few months. So far
  the filters have managed to keep this off the list. Increased
  bandwidth, maintenance, & server costs have all been considered. Also 
  I have been saddled with a huge project at my work place that will
  take even more of my time.
       I maintain this list as well as other lists and my own server
  through a 3rd party hosting company and have seen a 30% increase in 
  the yearly fees in the last year. While I always continue to search
  for the best bang for my buck, moving from one hosting company to
  another is always a hassle.
       If someone else wants to pick up the mailing list and run with it 
  so to speak, then I will cooperate and help in any way possible,
  including a transfer of names and email addresses to a mutually chosen
  person who will fill the resulting gap. This is why I wanted to give
  plenty of advance notice so that it doesn't just go away one day. 
       I understand the need for information and would obviously being a
  caver who caves in New Mexico and interested in caves would subscribe
  to the new list.
        I would also like to personally thank Mark Minton who has served 
  as list moderator in the past. Also a special thanks to the cavers of
  New Mexico and others who subscribe to this list and have been
  responsible adults, thus making moderation very easy. That says a
  whole lot.... 

         While I would consider keeping the list going as I know all of
  you hate changes as much as I do. A couple of things would have to
  happen. I would need at least 2 list moderators to take complete
  control of the list. 
       I hate to ask for funds and will not solicit for them. As always
  donations are accepted and appreciated. Keep in mind that the list is
  an added feature of my hosting service.  Also when accepting funds it
  places me in an awkward position of providing an expected service, for
  this reason they must be represented as donations.
  Again thanks to all of you,
  Bill Bentley







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