Don;
That was a nasty response. I am 75 and can't walk that well. I did my duty
and I do not like your and I will say this shitty attitude. I have been to
OTR and so what if it has a different name now. I call it OTR because I am
old and senile and will die soon. So you can keep doing what you do and I
will enjoy the comrades and forego the food.

On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 6:31 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers <
[email protected]> wrote:

> On Feb 8, 2017, at 6:02 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Why are we stuck at Paradise Canyon?
>
>
> Charles, get over it. Paradise Canyon agreed to a good price if we kept
> TCR there for the next 5 years. If no one hasn't noticed things are getting
> more expensive these days. If you can find a better price than what we are
> currently paying with as many amenities, showers, river, electricity,
> bathrooms, ice, picnic tables, porto-potties, nice green manicured camping,
> Lodges with baths and A/C. What are you griping about, we haven’t seen you
> there in some time anyway. Besides weren’t you happy there was LODGING with
> A/C there? I distinctly remember you asking about it.
>
> The OTR used to be fun when it moved around.
>
>
> Well, this isn’t OTR.
>
> Now it is in a rut. Paradise Canyon is OK but to me it is incredibly
> boring after the tenth time. I recall the first one where I and a few other
> cooked at Luckenbach. Then a lot of places all over Central Texas. Now it
> is stuck, dead in the water.
>
>
> Dead? Are you volunteering to honcho it up? I’d be happy to turn it over
> to you. Just say the word and it’s all yours.
>
> OK I was chief cook for 20 years and has a myriad of volunteer  people
>  who were involved in cooking. We had a rule for our volunteer cooks and
> there were about 35  or 40 of them. The rule was cook what you want but
> cook, but enough. Enough was a nebulous figure. We had tons of corn on the
> cob from the valley. Fish from Galveston, A roast pig, brisket, beef clod,
> chicken, turkey, hot links from Fredericksburg, bean salad, fruit salad,
> salad salad, black beans, refried beans, tortillas, pie, cake, cookies, a
> million brownies, chicken, Hatch chilis, gazpacho. all manner of stuff, we
> once had quail, and the people gobbled it up.
>
>
> Great! Since we lost our cook last year, it sounds like you would be the
> perfect head cook. Are you volunteering? That menu sounds awesome, go ahead
> and purchase the stuff and get me a reciept and I’ll put you down as head
> cook. HEY EVERBODY! IGOR IS OUR NEW HEAD COOK! WOOO!!
>
> All prepared by THE CAVER COOKS for the fun of cooking it. That tradition
> has died it would seem. Maybe caver don't cook anymore? Not sure why but
> the old cooks never got any new cooks to volunteer to take the reins.
>
>
> Well, seeing you haven't come to a -TCR- (Texas Cavers Reunion, been named
> that for only the last THIRTY EIGHT YEARS) you have totally missed out on
> some fine cooking by the experts we have that ACTUALLY STEPPED UP and
> VOLUNTEERED. Stefan and Vico and the rest of the COOKS have done an awesome
> and thankless job for everybody. But of course your stepping up will easily
> surpass their cooking, no? We look forward to it!
>
> Maybe there was a great loss in cooking ability. I hate to say this but I
> haven't eaten the meal at OTR is four years. I am not sure why because I
> pay for it, but the last one just didn't meet my expectations. I apologize
> to those who worked so hard and long but what is, is and I am a dyed in the
> wool food Nazi. We didn't need a food trailer to cook in we just built
> fires and got after it.
>
>
> Well that's just awesome, good for you. Sorry you’ll be disappointed for
> the next five years. Maybe you should just keep staying home.
>
> On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Paradise Canyon
>> October 12-15, 2017
>
>
>
>
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