Not nasty really.

On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers <
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> I’ve found that TCR's biggest critics are NEVER step up and help. NEVER.
> You got attitude because of your nasty criticisms. Touché.
>
> On Feb 8, 2017, at 6:33 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Don;
> That was a nasty response. I am 75 and can't walk that well. I did my duty
> and I do not like your and I will say this shitty attitude. I have been to
> OTR and so what if it has a different name now. I call it OTR because I am
> old and senile and will die soon. So you can keep doing what you do and I
> will enjoy the comrades and forego the food.
>
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 6:31 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Feb 8, 2017, at 6:02 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Why are we stuck at Paradise Canyon?
>>
>>
>> Charles, get over it. Paradise Canyon agreed to a good price if we kept
>> TCR there for the next 5 years. If no one hasn't noticed things are getting
>> more expensive these days. If you can find a better price than what we are
>> currently paying with as many amenities, showers, river, electricity,
>> bathrooms, ice, picnic tables, porto-potties, nice green manicured camping,
>> Lodges with baths and A/C. What are you griping about, we haven’t seen you
>> there in some time anyway. Besides weren’t you happy there was LODGING with
>> A/C there? I distinctly remember you asking about it.
>>
>> The OTR used to be fun when it moved around.
>>
>>
>> Well, this isn’t OTR.
>>
>> Now it is in a rut. Paradise Canyon is OK but to me it is incredibly
>> boring after the tenth time. I recall the first one where I and a few other
>> cooked at Luckenbach. Then a lot of places all over Central Texas. Now it
>> is stuck, dead in the water.
>>
>>
>> Dead? Are you volunteering to honcho it up? I’d be happy to turn it over
>> to you. Just say the word and it’s all yours.
>>
>> OK I was chief cook for 20 years and has a myriad of volunteer  people
>>  who were involved in cooking. We had a rule for our volunteer cooks and
>> there were about 35  or 40 of them. The rule was cook what you want but
>> cook, but enough. Enough was a nebulous figure. We had tons of corn on the
>> cob from the valley. Fish from Galveston, A roast pig, brisket, beef clod,
>> chicken, turkey, hot links from Fredericksburg, bean salad, fruit salad,
>> salad salad, black beans, refried beans, tortillas, pie, cake, cookies, a
>> million brownies, chicken, Hatch chilis, gazpacho. all manner of stuff, we
>> once had quail, and the people gobbled it up.
>>
>>
>> Great! Since we lost our cook last year, it sounds like you would be the
>> perfect head cook. Are you volunteering? That menu sounds awesome, go ahead
>> and purchase the stuff and get me a reciept and I’ll put you down as head
>> cook. HEY EVERBODY! IGOR IS OUR NEW HEAD COOK! WOOO!!
>>
>> All prepared by THE CAVER COOKS for the fun of cooking it. That tradition
>> has died it would seem. Maybe caver don't cook anymore? Not sure why but
>> the old cooks never got any new cooks to volunteer to take the reins.
>>
>>
>> Well, seeing you haven't come to a -TCR- (Texas Cavers Reunion, been
>> named that for only the last THIRTY EIGHT YEARS) you have totally missed
>> out on some fine cooking by the experts we have that ACTUALLY STEPPED UP
>> and VOLUNTEERED. Stefan and Vico and the rest of the COOKS have done an
>> awesome and thankless job for everybody. But of course your stepping up
>> will easily surpass their cooking, no? We look forward to it!
>>
>> Maybe there was a great loss in cooking ability. I hate to say this but I
>> haven't eaten the meal at OTR is four years. I am not sure why because I
>> pay for it, but the last one just didn't meet my expectations. I apologize
>> to those who worked so hard and long but what is, is and I am a dyed in the
>> wool food Nazi. We didn't need a food trailer to cook in we just built
>> fires and got after it.
>>
>>
>> Well that's just awesome, good for you. Sorry you’ll be disappointed for
>> the next five years. Maybe you should just keep staying home.
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Paradise Canyon
>>> October 12-15, 2017
>>
>>
>>
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