Ahh and I tested a box of birthday cake candles in Dumbkopf Cave and found
that the burned my fingers.
Old Man Wisdom... And I was in that Chonta video with a Ceiling Burner.

On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 8:58 PM, David via Texascavers <
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> From David Locklear
> [email protected]
>
>
> The flashlight described below was purchased by me tonight at
> Fry's Store.
>
> There was a near full moon so I could not find a good spot to properly
> test it.
>
> However, there were 3 aspects of this flashlight that caught my eye and
> may or may not separate this flashlight from others on the shelf.
>
> The main aspect of this light is its advertised brightness versus the
> price.
> Most of the flashlights seem to cheat on the max light numbers by adding
> up the value of several of the LED's in the chip.   I have no idea if this
> one
> does that.    Supposedly you are getting 2000 lumens for $ 40 plus tax.
>
> The 2nd feature is the advertised beam with, suggesting it is not a spot
> light
> but a real floodlight - something that almost no LED products excel at.
>
> And the 3rd feature was the dim value being much higher than other lights
> at 1000 lumens.
>
> Meaning this light has a very specific purpose.    You would use it at the
> low setting
> in a big frickin cave passage, and only use the 2000 lumen setting on some
> special
> occasion.
>
> Promier is not a leading brand and many of their products are sort of on
> the low
> end scale compared to Coast or Pelican, however, they seem to be better
> than the
> really cheap stuff.
>
> So here is what I learned.
>
> The flood beam is wide enough for when you really need a flood beam.
> There is just a very
> faint outer ring of light that only a light critic would notice.    As you
> slide the lens forward ( by rotating the
> headpiece ), the light pattern begins to slightly concentrate and become
> slightly brighter, but in the end the final
> patter is a rhombus or diamond, like most of these kind of flashlights.
>     Since the mid-rage
> pattern is the one you would use most often, I found it to be almost
> circular, or sort of a square
> with very rounded corners, or more like circle with some 4 flat edges.
> Only slightly annoying.
>
> The heavy weight and large size of this flashlight would discourage you
> from carrying it in most cases.
> However, I would assume that it would come in handy if you were filming in
> a large borehole passage.
>
> [  Sidenote:  On a trip to Sumidero del Rio Chonta, around 1993, some
> Austin cavers filmed the trip
> with a giant train engine headlight.    I doubt I am in that video, and I
> have never seen it.    I was way
> downstream of the filming.   ]
>
> Now there are dozens of brighter flashlights on the market ( but few on
> the shelf ), and you can
> probably find slightly better quality.     But not for $ $ 40 plus tax.
>
> The switch feels rugged.    The battery pack looks well-engineered.
> The light could probably be
> made more water-resistant, by putting sealant on the threads, and blocking
> the focusing mechanism
> with sealant.   The lens cover looks like a solid chunk of rounded glass (
> for dispersing the beam into
> a flood pattern ).
>
> The three sharp tactical edges can be covered with tape, or maybe sawed
> off.   They are not too
> sharp and might could even be grinded smoother with a hand-file.
>
> As is, I would not call this flashlight water resistant.   So you would
> want to carry it in some kind of protective
> cover ( a DUREX Magnum RipnRoll ??? ).
>
> Model No.  P2000FL-8/16
>
> www.promierproducts.com
>
> Promier has a nearly identical model that is $ 6 cheaper and slightly
> smaller, and probably more
> practical for a large cave.   Fry's has carried that flashlight for over a
> year.
>
> I hope I don't have to take this back to the store.    I plan to use it
> when I am driving my Sequoia
> in dark areas looking for a camp-spot, or things along the side of the
> road, or for blinding a
> car-jacker, etc.
>
>
>
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