Very interesting! Not even showing the husk leave alone the tip of the paddy. Bamboozling words of credits to me thank the aviveka. avowed taxman prostrating toy disciple. Any one can sense anything?. Well he never did anything so for in getting that evidence. Anyone who can know his words may state the pros and cons over the quote of Purusha medha. As Ashva medha there is one Purusha medha; sacrifice is a word in English rendering a wrong comprehension. All know only one thing for sacrifice. It is not exactly meant as English meaning sacrifice; it is yagnam; medha is intelligence attributed to Saraswathi; there is one Medha suktam attributed to Saraswathi. Ashva, Purusha medha are all yagnam. Yagnam is a kind of work defined. The quoted purusha medha simply says a long list read with Shatapatha brahamana 13.6.2, stressing each do your work assigned to you and the list goes broadened. It does not say that brahmin is by birth. Alabhate is the root word; who is a brahmin?; one who knows the Brahman is a Brahmin; so let brahmin keep in line with the Brahman; kshatriya let him stay with the govt functions; " *THE (SYMBOLICAL) VICTIMS OF THE PURUSHAMEDHA .*
I. 1. To the priesthood (he consecrates) a Brâhma*n*a--2. To the nobility a Kshatriya--3. To the Maruts a Vai*s*ya--4. To penance (hardship, tapas) a *S*idra--5. To darkness a thief--6. To hell a man-slayer--7. To evil a eunuch--8. To barter an unchaste woman (ayobhû )--9. To desire a harlot (pu *msk*alû)--10. To the shriek (atikrush*t*a) a minstrel (mâgadha)--11. To dancing a herald (bard, sûta)--12. To singing an actor (*s*ailûsha)--13. To the law a counsellor (sabhâ*k*ara)--14. To joking a timorous man--15. To fun (narma) a chatterer--16. To laughter (hasa) an artizan (kâri,? singer of praises)--17. To pleasure (ânanda) a woman's friend--18. To enjoyment a maiden's son--19. To skill a wheelwright--20. To perseverance a carpenter--21. To heat (tapas) a potter--22. To craft a mechanic--23. To handsome form a jeweller--24. To beauty a barber 3 <https://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/sbr/sbe44/sbe44111.htm#fn_1074>--25. To the arrow-shot an arrow-maker--26. To the weapon a bow-maker--27. To work a bowstring-maker--28. To fate a rope-maker--29. To death a huntsman--30. To the end (antaka) a dog-keeper--31. To rivers a fisherman (pau*ñg*ish*th*a)--32. To the ogress (of waste lands) a Nishâda --33. To the man-tiger (? werwolf) a mono-maniac--34. To the Gandharvas and Apsaras a roving outcast (vrâtya)--35. To the teams (? prayu*g*) a madman--36. To serpents and demons a blockhead (? apratipad)--37. To dice a gambler--38. To impassibility 2 <https://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/sbr/sbe44/sbe44111.htm#fn_1076> a non-gambler--39. To the devils (pi*s*â*k*as) a female cane-worker (basket-maker)--40. To the hobgoblins (yâtudhâna) a female worker in thorns--41. To intercourse a gallant--42. To the house a paramour--43. To trouble an unmarried elder brother whose younger brother is married--44. To calamity a younger brother married before his elder brother--45. To failure 3 <https://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/sbr/sbe44/sbe44111.htm#fn_1077> the husband of a younger sister whose elder sister is unmarried--46. To reparation an artiste in embroidery--47. To agreement a female practiser of love-spells--48. To garrulity (prakâmodya) an attendant. The list run so. who is who is the list. It is not just the Taitriya Samhita alone but runs into satapataha , maha narayana and so on. Sir pl dont waste time especially yours. Gopatha Brahmana says(2.13) नाना प्रवचनानि ह व एतानि भुतानि भवन्ति ये चौवसोमपम् याजयन्ति ये च सुरापम् ये च विच्छिन्नम् ब्राह्मनम्सोमयाजिनम् याजयन्ति॥ गो ब्र २ १३ Those persons becomes the targets of censure who for the performance of their yagnas engage such priests who are not worthy of partaking soma or who resort to drinking wine or who are discarded from the vedic lore (tradition). What dies it show? A priest who is a brahmin even in that era long ago were not considered brahmin even by birth. Purusha medha says just that. The same brahamana 2.23 says that A Brahmana who has not kept ahavaniya agni at his house is not regarded worthy of receiving or extending his blessings dhanam etc or procuring the fruits of deeds studies etc performed by him during the earlier births or earlier period of his life. Some time back Mr Sithamalli was talking about Pururavus carrying agbi to Gandhara ; that wa sreally where agni was given to him he made it into three and carried out; that is termed as TRERAGNI FOR A BRAHMIN; birth, life and death are attached by agni to a brahmin. Is theer any one who does the agnihotram?. So it is not the tax officer who says so; your ancestors said so. K R IRS 11121 On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 at 06:51, Narayanaswamy Subramanian < [email protected]> wrote: > > Dear folks > > My favourite obstreperous maverick and jejune genius, the all-knowing > all-being Sri Rajaram Krishnamurthy I.R.S., once openly challenged me to > quote the Vedic authority which declares unconditionally that the > Braahmanas are so by birth. > > His very own ungrammatical and combative words on 23 Oct 2020:- > > *"If NS can show me with the evidence form the sacred vedam that brahmin > is by birth only well lets why let me become his disciple."* > > His own rock-hard illusion and delusion was that Lord Sree Krishna in the > Bhagavath-Geetha denied so. His touted source: > > *chathurvarnam mayaasrushtam gunakarmavibhaaga shah: |* > *thasya karththaaramapi maam viddhyakarththaara mavyayam ||* > > (Bhagavath-Geetha Cap IV v 13) > > The maverick-genius translated this minute extract from the miniscule (700 > slokams) of the ithihaasa puraanam Mahaa-Bhaaratham as incontrovetibly > asserting for all time and for all seasons that ONLY by innate nature > (gunam) and overt acts (karmam) are Braahmanas identifiable. > > He chose deliberately to overlook and totally ignore the hidden > pre-requisite that these two characteristic features are ADDITIONAL to > birth, and not substitutes. > > Certainly, I could have matched him, Puraanam to Puraanam, by quoting Sree > Lalitha sahasra-naamam from Brahmaanda Puraanam:- > > *varnaashrama vidhaayinye namaha*(naama no. 286). > > However, since he wanted "evidence form the sacred vedam" I quoted to him > the Purusha Sooktham which clearly declares with unquestionable authority > that Braahmanas were created from the "mukham" of the virad Purusha (and > continued their uninterrupted descent from there to the present day). > > Since I did not trust the chameleon in human skin, nor was I convinced of > his integrity, I declined to accept the awowed taxman prostrating toy > disciple. > > Far from prostrating to and venerating the infallibility of our sacred > vedams, he appeared (and still appears) to side with the atheist dissenting > Buddhists whose founder pontificated that shoodra vaana-prasthaas were > braahmanas and those born from Braahmana wombs were not: > > pamsukooladharam jantum kisam damanisanthatam > ekam vanasmim jhaayantham tam aham broomi braahmanam (Dhammapada v 395) > > na cha aham braahmanam broooni yonijam mattisambhavam > bhoovadi naama so hoti sa che hoti sakinchano > akinchanam anaadaanam tam aham broomi braahmanam (Dhammapada v 396) > > > The maverick-genius has little if any acquaintance with, much less > knowledge, of our Yajur-vedam. > > So, he is obviously unconscious of the Taittireeya Braahmanam which > further reinforces and supports what already appears in the Purusha > sooktham:- > > *brahmane braahmanamaalabhathe |* > *kshathraaya raajanyam |* > *marudbhyo vaishyam |* > > (Yajurveda Taittireeya Braahmanam "Purusha medhaha" - T.B. 3.4.1.1.) > > > The above should hopefully put to rest any illegitimate doubts or > misgivings implanted or aroused by the thoughtless peregrinations of an > unprincipled adventurer into our sacred scriptures and traditions. > > Namaskaarams to elders. > > S Narayanaswamy Iyer > > > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. 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