For Arayan Invasion theory The abrupt end of Saraswati civilisation cannot be attributed to climate change. Climate change is not abrupt as is happening today. In early parts of 20th century, climate specially in the semi-hill stations like Ranchi, was so cold that fans were not needed. In Ranchi summers after 100 years, one needs air conditioning.. People are adapting to the climate change. Those who like cooler climes, are moving out. Such abrupt climate change occurs when a cataclysm like huge meteor impact or atomic warfare happens. Meteor impact gives time to people to move out. Skeletal Remains at some Saraswati sites point towards atomic warfare. Skeletal remains are found grouped together at social sites. Affectionately Rajinder Sandhir Delhi 110 076 Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Rajaram Krishnamurthy Pranam What Did the Indus Valley Civilisation Have in Common with Tamils? The Indus script - which developed along with the civilization - has mystified experts, scholars, and symbolists for decades ever since it turned up on seals, pottery, and other artifacts. Some believe it could be the precursor to Dravidian languages. The Indus Valley civilisation was a Bronze age civilisation that existed in north-west India and eastern Pakistan between 5,000 BCE and 1,500 BCE. The urban civilization is believed to have mysteriously collapsed in 1,500 BCE with scholars speculating that climate change and migration behind its sudden disappearance. Recent evidence now suggests that the civilisation might have moved south. Excavations and made from sites in Tamil Nadu over the past two years studies of the Indus Valley script and the Tamil-Brahmi script - the precursor of contemporary Tamil - suggest that there may have there might have been an urban, Bronze age civilisation in India’s southern region. The findings also suggest that after the collapse of the Indus civilisation, the remaining members of the civilisation migrated south. The Indus-Dravidian link The script has been found to be consistent across the Harrapan civilisation. Archaeologists, however, have increasingly been finding links between the Indus script and the Tamil-Brahmi script with many speculating the Indus script was indeed Dravidian. In 2019, excavations carried out in the Keezadi site in Tamil Nadu’s Sivagangai district revealed graffiti dating back to 580 BC. The graffiti has been deemed to bear a distinct resemblance to the Indus script. Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx The above is a media channel 18 report with lots of ambiguity wishing all to sink together; but what was excavated is 580 BCE at Keezhadi; the Indus civilisation is 7000 years old; disappearances of evidence is in 1500 BCE viz 3500 years back; migration of Brahmins from north of Ganges is well known in the history; but all these time lag does not fit the conclusions to be beyond doubt. Its wishful thinking of the Tamilnandu. The origin of the Sanskrit word drāviḍa is Tamil. In Prakrit, words such as "Damela", "Dameda", "Dhamila" and "Damila", which later evolved from "Tamila", could have been used to denote an ethnic identity In the Sanskrit tradition the word drāviḍa was also used to denote the geographical region of South India. Epigraphic evidence of an ethnic group termed as such is found in ancient India where a number of inscriptions have come to light datable from the 6th to the 5th century BCE mentioning Damela or Dameda persons. The Hathigumpha inscription of the Kalinga ruler Kharavela refers to a T(ra)mira samghata (Confederacy of Tamil rulers) dated to 150 BCE. It also mentions that the league of Tamil kingdoms had been in existence for 113 years by that time. In Amaravati in present-day Andhra Pradesh there is an inscription referring to a Dhamila-vaniya (Tamil trader) datable to the 3rd century CE. Another inscription of about the same time in Nagarjunakonda seems to refer to a Damila. A third inscription in Kanheri Caves refers to a Dhamila-gharini (Tamil house-holder). In the Buddhist Jataka story known as Akiti Jataka there is a mention to Damila-rattha (Tamil dynasty). While the English word Dravidian was first employed by Robert Caldwell in his book of comparative Dravidian grammar based on the usage of the Sanskrit word drāviḍa in the work Tantravārttika by Kumārila Bhaṭṭa, the word drāviḍa in Sanskrit has been historically used to denote geographical regions of Southern India as whole. Some theories concern the direction of derivation between tamiẓ and drāviḍa; such linguists as Zvelebil assert that the direction is from tamiẓ to drāviḍa. The modern word Dravidian is devoid of any ethnic significance and is only used to classify a linguistic family of the referred group. {Indrapala, K The Evolution of an ethnic identity: The Tamils of Sri Lanka, pp.155–156 Zvelebil 1990, p. xx} Badagas, Gondi, Kurumba Todas, Tuluvas, Irula tribes DNAs were tested in Madurai Kamaraj University research wrt the DNAs match and a theory floated tat they do match with a native tribe in Australia. Dravida culture is extensive than the TN or even south. Mahadevan, Iravatham (2006). A Note on the Muruku Sign of the Indus Script in light of the Mayiladuthurai Stone Axe Discove; his finding was from these symbols which he named as MURUKKU means bend and related it to Dravida, Murukku eatable etc. This resemblance led him to believe but the evidence are farfetched to link. The GONDI is people of GANDIVAN as seen in RAMAYANA a tribe living around 7000 to 10000 years before. Pandya kings participated in Mahabharatha war narrated from south. If so 560 BCE evidence has no meaning at all. There was a parallel civilisation in south and north and migration after the Mahabharatha war in all directions did happen. Arya invasion theory is now defunct. Dravida is directional concept as recited in Soundarya lahari DRAVIDA SISU by ADI SANKARAR. Hence I said Keezhadi matching is not a right one as on date. KR IRS 1621 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. 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