Thank you.You credit me with reading books from the west.The truth is I neither read the books of the west nor the east.I write on my own.I am the most unread person in the forum. YM
On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 10:37 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < [email protected]> wrote: > Pranam > Sanskrit blend is needed for you people who only read west and do not try > to know what we have. If you can learn French and German , learning a > language is not tough. Also what Carl Sagan had written today is a master > photo print of the ancient knowledge ,without which, people go aghast on > Carl Sagan, It is not depreciating the west. But without appreciation of > our parents , appreciating the neobor I opine as a crime. I write only like > that to say that there is nothing we do not have but we stubbornly refuse > to learn it but want the land to do a lot for those. If you feel otherwise > I am sorry but truth is bitter. People who cannot understand Arabiindo and > Dayananda and so many , I WONDER, how they so easily can follow sagan and > the rest?. I crave your pardon again but if you follow my thoughts, for > every western action I react to, our standards existed at least 10000 years > back. Kashmir files last 10 minutes of dialogue. Our texts are not > religious dust byr scientific way of life laid on a platter long long ago > which others may turn their neck, but not us. KR IRS 16522 > > On Mon, 16 May 2022 at 10:00, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Sir, >> Thank you very much.Can I request for very simple sentences without the >> Sanskrit blend >> >> >> On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 9:40 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Pranam >>> The adaptability of cost ,profit, Mathematics are all placed in >>> one flow ,aspiring from one angle, based on certain individual definitions. >>> >>> Maths >>> >>> Upapatti and "Proof" >>> >>> In the introduction to the section on spherics (Golādhyāya) of his >>> treatise Siddhāntaśiromaõi, Bhāskarācārya II explains the central purpose >>> behind his exposition of upapattis: >>> >>> मद्यध्याम् धुसधाम् यदत्र गनिथम् छ योपपतिम्विन >>> >>> प्रोउदेएम् प्रोउद सभसु नोउति गनको निस्सम्सयो निस्वयम् >>> >>> गोले सा विमला करामलकवथ् प्रत्यसथो स्रुयते >>> >>> समध्यम् युपपति बोध्यवितये गोलप्रबन्ध्योथ: >>> >>> Without the knowledge of upapattis, by merely mastering the calculations >>> (gaõita) described here, from the madhyamādhikāra (the first chapter of >>> Siddhāntaśiromaõi) onwards, of the [motion of the] heavenly bodies, a >>> mathematician will not be respected in the scholarly assemblies; without >>> the upapattis he himself will not be free of doubt (niÜsa§śaya). Since >>> upapatti is clearly perceivable in the (armillary) sphere like a berry in >>> the hand, I therefore begin the Golādhyāya (section on spherics) to >>> explain the upapattis. >>> >>> The same is echoed by the Gaõeśa Daivajña in his famous commentary >>> Buddhivilāsinī (c.1540) on Bhāskarācārya’s Līlāvatī: >>> >>> Without upapatti, whatever is stated in vyakta-gaõita (mathematics >>> dealing with manifest quantities – arithmetic and geometry) or >>> avyakta-gaõita (mathematics dealing with un-manifest quantities – >>> algebra), will not be rendered free from confusion (nirbhrānta); nor will >>> it have any value in an assembly of mathematicians. Upapatti is indeed >>> directly and pleasantly perceivable like a mirror in hand. It is therefore, >>> as also for the elevation of the intellect, that I proceed to enunciate >>> upapattis in entirety. Thus, the notion of upapatti seems to be >>> significantly different from the notion of "proof" as understood in the >>> Greco-European tradition of mathematics. According to the Indian >>> mathematical texts, the purpose of upapatti is mainly: (i) to remove >>> confusion and doubts regarding the validity and interpretation of >>> mathematical results and procedures; and, (ii) to obtain assent in the >>> community of mathematicians. This is very different from the ideal of >>> "proof" in the Greco-European tradition which is to irrefutably establish >>> the absolute truth of a mathematical proposition. Further, in the >>> Indian tradition, mathematical knowledge is not taken to be different in >>> any fundamental sense from that in natural sciences. In fact, valid >>> means for acquiring and validating mathematical knowledge are the same as >>> in other sciences: Pratyakùa (perception), Anumāna (inference), Śabda or >>> Agama (authentic text or tradition). >>> >>> However, there are no instances where Indian mathematicians use >>> the method of indirect proof to establish the existence of an entity, the >>> existence of which is not demonstrable (even in principle) by other >>> (direct) means of verification. In this sense, the Indian mathematical >>> tradition may be seen as adopting what is nowadays referred to as the >>> "constructivist" approach to the issue of mathematical existence. It is >>> important to note that this significant feature of Indian mathematical >>> tradition is closely related to the world-view of the Naiyāyikas or Indian >>> logicians, who do not accord tarka (or the method of indirect proof) the >>> status of an independent source of valid knowledge (pramāõa). Indeed >>> the general philosophical approach of Indian logicians is one of >>> eliminating from logical discourse all reference to such aprasiddha or >>> un-instantiated entities, whose existence is not even in principle >>> accessible to direct means of verification. In fact, the Naiyāyikas would >>> even reconcile to live with contradictions rather than allow the use of >>> such aprasiddha entities in their logical discourse. This is brought >>> out very clearly by Matilal by citing an important passage from >>> Ātmatattvaviveka of Udayanācārya (c. 10th century) which deals with an >>> argument between the Bauddhas and Naiyāyika. HENCE THERE IS NOTHING THAT >>> CANNOT BE MEASURED BY THE MATHEMATICS AND NUMBERS; THE COMPUTER LANGUAGE >>> CODED IN TERMS OF THE MATHEMATICAL “0” AND “1”, IS NOTHING BUT ORIGIN OF >>> siva and shakthi as 1 and 0. Mathematics can express all including the >>> negative numbers. Brahmam is one and the negative energy @ MAYA or >>> PRAKRITHI OR SHAKTI is shunya. >>> >>> 2 Cost reduction is the achievement of real and permanent reduction >>> in unit cost of products manufactured. It therefore continuously attempts >>> to achieve genuine savings in cost of production, distribution, selling and >>> administration. It does not accept a standard or budget as impenetrable or >>> fixed, it rather challenges the standards or budgets continuously to make >>> improvements in them. “Cost reduction” is a continuous process of critical >>> cost examination, analysis and challenge of standards. In this each aspect >>> of businesses such as products, process, procedures, methods, organization, >>> personnel etc., are critically examined and reviewed with a view of >>> improving efficiency and effectiveness and reducing the costs. Cost >>> reduction begins where cost control ends. Cost control seeks to bring the >>> actuals in harmony with the predetermined targets. If this happens, >>> assuming no increase or decrease in costs, the profit margin becomes more >>> or less fixed at a particular level of sales. However, this is easier said >>> than done. In actual practice, prices may fluctuate. Alternatively, sales >>> may decline due to various reasons. In all these cases, the business must >>> aim at maximising profits at the same level of sales by reducing costs. >>> Cost reduction seeks to achieve a permanent reduction in cost, without >>> impairing the quality of the product. It is a planned way of improving the >>> efficiency of business operations. >>> >>> 1 Cost reduction is confined to genuine savings in costs of >>> manufacture, administration, distribution and selling. ( has the limitation >>> subject to many factors external, which would not keep at the byoyancy >>> level, at the same standard cost. ). >>> >>> 2 Reduction in cost to consumer as a result of reduction in taxation or >>> Government design or price agreements will not be covered by cost >>> reduction. These are not real and permanent reductions in cost due to >>> planned efforts. Cost reduction does not include windfall reduction or >>> fortuitous reduction. >>> >>> 3 . Cost reduction assumes that product or service will retain its >>> essential characteristics and quality. If reduction in cost results in >>> deterioration of quality, it will not be covered by the term Cost Reduction. >>> >>> 4 Cooperation and teamwork are essential features of any planned >>> approach to cost reduction. Direct saving of cost is the most tangible >>> objective of cost reduction, but it profoundly influences the wide sphere >>> of business as a whole. >>> HENCE THERE CAN NEVER BE AN UTOPIAN COST REDUCTION AND REDUCING THE >>> PROFIT , ACCOMADATE EACH INDIVIDUAL. >>> Therefore an utopian theory of conjecture is at the far away >>> plane, unnoticeable. Maths would explain all scientifically; when I say >>> scientifically , it means , the negative numbers cannot have the square >>> root and one shall not demand the theory of the impossibility. KR IRS 16522 >>> >>> On Mon, 16 May 2022 at 06:43, Yeddanapudi Markandeyulu < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> *The Ruin of the Profit Mania* >>>> >>>> Cost and Income are the two sides of a coin. When you pay for >>>> expenditure, to the payee it is income. If costs are reduced, incomes also >>>> get reduced. If every firm becomes the optimum firm, which means that it >>>> achieved the lowest cost for a unit of output, there will be no income at >>>> all in the economy and it will be the ultimate ruin called the great >>>> depression. If every firm makes profit, all together dive into the abyss. >>>> >>>> A loss making unit is one which is giving more to the society than what >>>> it is taking from the society. In fact the profit making firms are existing >>>> because; they are maintained by the loss sustaining units. A profit making >>>> unit gives less than what it takes and the loss making unit, gives more >>>> than what it takes from the society. >>>> >>>> This vital service, which keeps economies safe or save the economy from >>>> death, is being performed by the Public Sector Undertakings in India. If >>>> all public sector undertakings are to be gifted to the private merchants, >>>> and if they begin cutting costs or reduce the income generation in the >>>> society, there will be the ultimate economic depression, the big ruin. >>>> >>>> An economy of 140 crore people needs the vital avenue where loss >>>> generation or the income generation in the society, is maintained. Loss >>>> simply means incomes given without the equal return. >>>> >>>> There is a very big minus side to the cost reduction, ruin of nature. A >>>> profit making unit, poisons the land, water, air, and kills the flora and >>>> fauna, or simply shifts to the society and nature the costs which it has to >>>> pay. When nature is murdered so systematically and completely, we also die >>>> gradually. All profit making units together ultimately murder nature. >>>> >>>> The Basmasuras of today, sport big academic qualifications surround >>>> themselves with intellectual statements emitting sycophants, posing as the >>>> great Dons, leaving no scope for simple sanity. The Dons obfuscate with >>>> very complicated but really irrelevant mathematics, but they look technical >>>> and superior. >>>> >>>> There is one undeniable fact. You can explain everything with sentences >>>> but you cannot represent everything with mathematics. Mathematics always >>>> leaves with incomplete explanations. 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