In the afternoon sir sure I do KR IRS 17522 On Mon, 16 May 2022 at 20:07, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < [email protected]> wrote:
> Please send the poem of Sri Sridharan if available in English.I missed > many wonderful persons by leaving Iyer123. > YM > > On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 7:13 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Pranam >> OK sir. We made ourselves clear. Sridharan ji poem has in depth meaning >> KR. IRS. 16522 >> >> On Mon, May 16, 2022, 18:41 Markendeya Yeddanapudi < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Sir, >>> My responses to you are respectful because of my awe at your mastery of >>> so many fields.No other feeling at any time.I have not read many books.That >>> is a fact. >>> YM >>> >>> On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 2:47 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Pranam >>>> Sorry sir; I am misunderstood. I never ACCUSED YOU OR EVEN ATTRIBUTED >>>> ANYTHING AS YOU WROTE. You wanted brief and without Sanskrit; and as you do >>>> Telegu some times to enforce the attention, so too, all times , I quote my >>>> ancestors of India, to authenticate, hence in Sanskrit and Romanised >>>> Sanskrit with the meaning; so that, what you have written under the >>>> protection of the nature, at times from Carl Sagan etc, and several quotes >>>> from the nets which is the west reproductions, led me think that , it is >>>> time for the people to know, read, understand, learn or try to focus, WHAT >>>> IS THERE HERE; it is not a mantra merely; it has in-depth meaning; what we >>>> are thinking today, was once a thought emanating from the ancestors. who >>>> lived at least 10000 years ago; your worries were already thought over and >>>> answered. That I am presenting for all to read , if they have health and >>>> time; some may read English; some roman-sanskrit; some even the Sanskrit; >>>> that which I write in 2 parts; (1) ancestors say here , all are derivative >>>> of mathematics and convertible in terms of Maths ; you feel it is not; now >>>> original thoughts get shaped up by sifting the facts. And (2) I have a >>>> fact that there is no thought without any cause of action; that action is >>>> experience or palm leaves or teachings or even hearsay like that. Without >>>> knowing one thing as TREE , one cannot write it as tree; and unless there >>>> is a vision or perspective angle -one cannot think. Even for a swayambu, >>>> that article must exist there before; there is neither cause without action >>>> and vice-versa. Hence people born here, unaware of what we have, seek >>>> something from outside, unaware of the meaning and the source of that >>>> matter; there as far as what I know I try to show the existence earlier >>>> here; long because, it must be understood. Brief is not understood by all >>>> equally. Thank u KR IRS 16522 >>>> >>>> On Mon, 16 May 2022 at 12:40, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thank you.You credit me with reading books from the west.The truth is >>>>> I neither read the books of the west nor the east.I write on my own.I am >>>>> the most unread person in the forum. >>>>> YM >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 10:37 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Pranam >>>>>> Sanskrit blend is needed for you people who only read west and do not >>>>>> try to know what we have. If you can learn French and German , learning a >>>>>> language is not tough. Also what Carl Sagan had written today is a master >>>>>> photo print of the ancient knowledge ,without which, people go aghast on >>>>>> Carl Sagan, It is not depreciating the west. But without appreciation of >>>>>> our parents , appreciating the neobor I opine as a crime. I write only >>>>>> like >>>>>> that to say that there is nothing we do not have but we stubbornly refuse >>>>>> to learn it but want the land to do a lot for those. If you feel >>>>>> otherwise >>>>>> I am sorry but truth is bitter. People who cannot understand Arabiindo >>>>>> and >>>>>> Dayananda and so many , I WONDER, how they so easily can follow sagan and >>>>>> the rest?. I crave your pardon again but if you follow my thoughts, for >>>>>> every western action I react to, our standards existed at least 10000 >>>>>> years >>>>>> back. Kashmir files last 10 minutes of dialogue. Our texts are not >>>>>> religious dust byr scientific way of life laid on a platter long long ago >>>>>> which others may turn their neck, but not us. KR IRS 16522 >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, 16 May 2022 at 10:00, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Sir, >>>>>>> Thank you very much.Can I request for very simple sentences without >>>>>>> the Sanskrit blend >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 9:40 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Pranam >>>>>>>> The adaptability of cost ,profit, Mathematics are all >>>>>>>> placed in one flow ,aspiring from one angle, based on certain >>>>>>>> individual >>>>>>>> definitions. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Maths >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Upapatti and "Proof" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In the introduction to the section on spherics (Golādhyāya) of his >>>>>>>> treatise Siddhāntaśiromaõi, Bhāskarācārya II explains the central >>>>>>>> purpose >>>>>>>> behind his exposition of upapattis: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> मद्यध्याम् धुसधाम् यदत्र गनिथम् छ योपपतिम्विन >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> प्रोउदेएम् प्रोउद सभसु नोउति गनको निस्सम्सयो निस्वयम् >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> गोले सा विमला करामलकवथ् प्रत्यसथो स्रुयते >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> समध्यम् युपपति बोध्यवितये गोलप्रबन्ध्योथ: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Without the knowledge of upapattis, by merely mastering the >>>>>>>> calculations (gaõita) described here, from the madhyamādhikāra (the >>>>>>>> first >>>>>>>> chapter of Siddhāntaśiromaõi) onwards, of the [motion of the] heavenly >>>>>>>> bodies, a mathematician will not be respected in the scholarly >>>>>>>> assemblies; >>>>>>>> without the upapattis he himself will not be free of doubt >>>>>>>> (niÜsa§śaya). >>>>>>>> Since upapatti is clearly perceivable in the (armillary) sphere like a >>>>>>>> berry in the hand, I therefore begin the Golādhyāya (section on >>>>>>>> spherics) >>>>>>>> to explain the upapattis. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The same is echoed by the Gaõeśa Daivajña in his famous commentary >>>>>>>> Buddhivilāsinī (c.1540) on Bhāskarācārya’s Līlāvatī: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Without upapatti, whatever is stated in vyakta-gaõita >>>>>>>> (mathematics dealing with manifest quantities – arithmetic and >>>>>>>> geometry) >>>>>>>> or avyakta-gaõita (mathematics dealing with un-manifest quantities – >>>>>>>> algebra), will not be rendered free from confusion (nirbhrānta); nor >>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>> it have any value in an assembly of mathematicians. Upapatti is indeed >>>>>>>> directly and pleasantly perceivable like a mirror in hand. It is >>>>>>>> therefore, >>>>>>>> as also for the elevation of the intellect, that I proceed to enunciate >>>>>>>> upapattis in entirety. Thus, the notion of upapatti seems to be >>>>>>>> significantly different from the notion of "proof" as understood in the >>>>>>>> Greco-European tradition of mathematics. According to the Indian >>>>>>>> mathematical texts, the purpose of upapatti is mainly: (i) to remove >>>>>>>> confusion and doubts regarding the validity and interpretation of >>>>>>>> mathematical results and procedures; and, (ii) to obtain assent in the >>>>>>>> community of mathematicians. This is very different from the ideal of >>>>>>>> "proof" in the Greco-European tradition which is to irrefutably >>>>>>>> establish >>>>>>>> the absolute truth of a mathematical proposition. Further, in the >>>>>>>> Indian tradition, mathematical knowledge is not taken to be different >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> any fundamental sense from that in natural sciences. In fact, >>>>>>>> valid means for acquiring and validating mathematical knowledge are the >>>>>>>> same as in other sciences: Pratyakùa (perception), Anumāna (inference), >>>>>>>> Śabda or Agama (authentic text or tradition). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> However, there are no instances where Indian >>>>>>>> mathematicians use the method of indirect proof to establish the >>>>>>>> existence >>>>>>>> of an entity, the existence of which is not demonstrable (even in >>>>>>>> principle) by other (direct) means of verification. In this sense, the >>>>>>>> Indian mathematical tradition may be seen as adopting what is nowadays >>>>>>>> referred to as the "constructivist" approach to the issue of >>>>>>>> mathematical >>>>>>>> existence. It is important to note that this significant feature >>>>>>>> of Indian mathematical tradition is closely related to the world-view >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> the Naiyāyikas or Indian logicians, who do not accord tarka (or the >>>>>>>> method >>>>>>>> of indirect proof) the status of an independent source of valid >>>>>>>> knowledge >>>>>>>> (pramāõa). Indeed the general philosophical approach of Indian >>>>>>>> logicians is one of eliminating from logical discourse all reference to >>>>>>>> such aprasiddha or un-instantiated entities, whose existence is not >>>>>>>> even in >>>>>>>> principle accessible to direct means of verification. In fact, the >>>>>>>> Naiyāyikas would even reconcile to live with contradictions rather than >>>>>>>> allow the use of such aprasiddha entities in their logical discourse. >>>>>>>> This is brought out very clearly by Matilal by citing an important >>>>>>>> passage >>>>>>>> from Ātmatattvaviveka of Udayanācārya (c. 10th century) which deals >>>>>>>> with an >>>>>>>> argument between the Bauddhas and Naiyāyika. HENCE THERE IS NOTHING >>>>>>>> THAT >>>>>>>> CANNOT BE MEASURED BY THE MATHEMATICS AND NUMBERS; THE COMPUTER >>>>>>>> LANGUAGE >>>>>>>> CODED IN TERMS OF THE MATHEMATICAL “0” AND “1”, IS NOTHING BUT ORIGIN >>>>>>>> OF >>>>>>>> siva and shakthi as 1 and 0. Mathematics can express all including the >>>>>>>> negative numbers. Brahmam is one and the negative energy @ MAYA or >>>>>>>> PRAKRITHI OR SHAKTI is shunya. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2 Cost reduction is the achievement of real and permanent >>>>>>>> reduction in unit cost of products manufactured. It therefore >>>>>>>> continuously >>>>>>>> attempts to achieve genuine savings in cost of production, >>>>>>>> distribution, >>>>>>>> selling and administration. It does not accept a standard or budget as >>>>>>>> impenetrable or fixed, it rather challenges the standards or budgets >>>>>>>> continuously to make improvements in them. “Cost reduction” is a >>>>>>>> continuous >>>>>>>> process of critical cost examination, analysis and challenge of >>>>>>>> standards. >>>>>>>> In this each aspect of businesses such as products, process, >>>>>>>> procedures, >>>>>>>> methods, organization, personnel etc., are critically examined and >>>>>>>> reviewed >>>>>>>> with a view of improving efficiency and effectiveness and reducing the >>>>>>>> costs. Cost reduction begins where cost control ends. Cost control >>>>>>>> seeks to >>>>>>>> bring the actuals in harmony with the predetermined targets. If this >>>>>>>> happens, assuming no increase or decrease in costs, the profit margin >>>>>>>> becomes more or less fixed at a particular level of sales. However, >>>>>>>> this is >>>>>>>> easier said than done. In actual practice, prices may fluctuate. >>>>>>>> Alternatively, sales may decline due to various reasons. In all these >>>>>>>> cases, the business must aim at maximising profits at the same level of >>>>>>>> sales by reducing costs. Cost reduction seeks to achieve a permanent >>>>>>>> reduction in cost, without impairing the quality of the product. It is >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> planned way of improving the efficiency of business operations. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1 Cost reduction is confined to genuine savings in costs of >>>>>>>> manufacture, administration, distribution and selling. ( has the >>>>>>>> limitation >>>>>>>> subject to many factors external, which would not keep at the byoyancy >>>>>>>> level, at the same standard cost. ). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2 Reduction in cost to consumer as a result of reduction in >>>>>>>> taxation or Government design or price agreements will not be covered >>>>>>>> by >>>>>>>> cost reduction. These are not real and permanent reductions in cost >>>>>>>> due to >>>>>>>> planned efforts. Cost reduction does not include windfall reduction or >>>>>>>> fortuitous reduction. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 3 . Cost reduction assumes that product or service will retain its >>>>>>>> essential characteristics and quality. If reduction in cost results in >>>>>>>> deterioration of quality, it will not be covered by the term Cost >>>>>>>> Reduction. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 4 Cooperation and teamwork are essential features of any planned >>>>>>>> approach to cost reduction. Direct saving of cost is the most tangible >>>>>>>> objective of cost reduction, but it profoundly influences the wide >>>>>>>> sphere >>>>>>>> of business as a whole. >>>>>>>> HENCE THERE CAN NEVER BE AN UTOPIAN COST REDUCTION AND REDUCING THE >>>>>>>> PROFIT , ACCOMADATE EACH INDIVIDUAL. >>>>>>>> Therefore an utopian theory of conjecture is at the far >>>>>>>> away plane, unnoticeable. Maths would explain all scientifically; when >>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> say scientifically , it means , the negative numbers cannot have the >>>>>>>> square >>>>>>>> root and one shall not demand the theory of the impossibility. KR IRS >>>>>>>> 16522 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, 16 May 2022 at 06:43, Yeddanapudi Markandeyulu < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *The Ruin of the Profit Mania* >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cost and Income are the two sides of a coin. When you pay for >>>>>>>>> expenditure, to the payee it is income. If costs are reduced, incomes >>>>>>>>> also >>>>>>>>> get reduced. If every firm becomes the optimum firm, which means that >>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>> achieved the lowest cost for a unit of output, there will be no >>>>>>>>> income at >>>>>>>>> all in the economy and it will be the ultimate ruin called the great >>>>>>>>> depression. If every firm makes profit, all together dive into the >>>>>>>>> abyss. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> A loss making unit is one which is giving more to the society than >>>>>>>>> what it is taking from the society. In fact the profit making firms >>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>> existing because; they are maintained by the loss sustaining units. A >>>>>>>>> profit making unit gives less than what it takes and the loss making >>>>>>>>> unit, >>>>>>>>> gives more than what it takes from the society. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This vital service, which keeps economies safe or save the economy >>>>>>>>> from death, is being performed by the Public Sector Undertakings in >>>>>>>>> India. >>>>>>>>> If all public sector undertakings are to be gifted to the private >>>>>>>>> merchants, and if they begin cutting costs or reduce the income >>>>>>>>> generation >>>>>>>>> in the society, there will be the ultimate economic depression, the >>>>>>>>> big >>>>>>>>> ruin. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> An economy of 140 crore people needs the vital avenue where loss >>>>>>>>> generation or the income generation in the society, is maintained. >>>>>>>>> Loss >>>>>>>>> simply means incomes given without the equal return. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There is a very big minus side to the cost reduction, ruin of >>>>>>>>> nature. A profit making unit, poisons the land, water, air, and kills >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> flora and fauna, or simply shifts to the society and nature the costs >>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>> it has to pay. When nature is murdered so systematically and >>>>>>>>> completely, we >>>>>>>>> also die gradually. All profit making units together ultimately murder >>>>>>>>> nature. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Basmasuras of today, sport big academic qualifications >>>>>>>>> surround themselves with intellectual statements emitting sycophants, >>>>>>>>> posing as the great Dons, leaving no scope for simple sanity. The Dons >>>>>>>>> obfuscate with very complicated but really irrelevant mathematics, >>>>>>>>> but they >>>>>>>>> look technical and superior. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There is one undeniable fact. You can explain everything with >>>>>>>>> sentences but you cannot represent everything with mathematics. >>>>>>>>> Mathematics >>>>>>>>> always leaves with incomplete explanations. 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