Rajaram Sir, Thank you.As usual you rocket the topic to the top high brow space. YM
On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 2:33 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]> wrote: > Pranam > The thought of human nature is OK; but the use of reason as " we are > homosapiens" is unreasonable. I do not know whether homosapien- being, is > different from other classifications/ That too theory of evolution and > brand names recorded by the west, are not absolute theories. There are some > distant fossils discovered from Mainly Germany ( read my comments of the > west few lines quoted by Mr G pointing out his errors on the same date) > which cannot read the evolutions of the universe or even the earth. Some > Greek and Latin names may not be the right theory at all. So reasoning is > begging the question viz "we are homosapiens". What is meant by Homo > sapiens and do they exist even now?. "Homo sapiens, (Latin: “wise man”) > the species <https://www.britannica.com/science/species-taxon> to which > all modern human beings <https://www.britannica.com/topic/human-being> > belong. *Homo sapiens* is one of several species grouped into the genus > <https://www.britannica.com/dictionary/genus> *Homo* > <https://www.britannica.com/topic/Homo>, but it is the only one that is > not extinct <https://www.britannica.com/science/extinction-biology>. The > name *Homo sapiens* was applied in 1758 by the father of modern > biological classification (*see* taxonomy > <https://www.britannica.com/science/taxonomy>), Carolus Linnaeus > <https://www.britannica.com/biography/Carolus-Linnaeus>. It had long been > known that human beings physically resemble the primates > <https://www.britannica.com/animal/primate-mammal> more closely than any > other known living organisms, but at the time it was a daring act to > classify human beings within the same framework used for the rest of > nature. Linnaeus, concerned exclusively with similarities in bodily > structure, faced only the problem of distinguishing *H. sapiens* from apes > <https://www.britannica.com/animal/ape> (gorillas > <https://www.britannica.com/animal/Gorilla-primate-genus>, chimpanzees > <https://www.britannica.com/animal/chimpanzee>, orangutans > <https://www.britannica.com/animal/orangutan>, and gibbons > <https://www.britannica.com/animal/gibbon-primate>), which differ from > humans in numerous bodily as well as cognitive > <https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cognitive> features. (Charles > Darwin’s <https://www.britannica.com/biography/Charles-Darwin> treatise > <https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/treatise> on evolution > <https://www.britannica.com/science/evolution-scientific-theory>, *On the > Origin of Species*, would come 101 years later.) Since Linnaeus’s time, > a large fossil record <https://www.britannica.com/science/fossil-record> has > been discovered. This record contains numerous extinct species that are > much more closely related to humans than to today’s apes and that were > presumably more similar to *H. sapiens* behaviorally as well. Following > the ancestors of modern human beings into the distant past raises the > question of what is meant by the word *human*. *H. sapiens* is human by > definition, whereas apes are not. But what of the extinct members of the > human tribe (Hominini <https://www.britannica.com/topic/hominin>), who > were clearly not *H. sapiens* but were nonetheless very much like them? > There is no definitive answer to this question. Although human evolution > can be said to involve all those species more closely related to *H. > sapiens* than to the apes, the adjective *human* is usually applied only > to *H. sapiens* and other members of the genus *Homo* (e.g., *H. erectus* > <https://www.britannica.com/topic/Homo-erectus>, *H. habilis* > <https://www.britannica.com/topic/Homo-habilis>). Behaviorally, only *H. > sapiens* can be said to be “fully human,” but even the definition of *H. > sapiens* is a matter of active debate. Some paleoanthropologists > <https://www.britannica.com/science/paleoanthropology> extend the span of > this species far back into time to include many anatomically distinctive > fossils <https://www.britannica.com/science/fossil> that others prefer to > allocate <https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/allocate> to several > different extinct species. In contrast, a majority of paleoanthropologists, > wishing to bring the study of hominins > <https://www.britannica.com/topic/hominin> into line with that of other > mammals <https://www.britannica.com/animal/mammal>, prefer to assign to *H. > sapiens* only those fossil forms that fall within the anatomic spectrum > of the species as it exists today. In this sense, *H. sapiens* is very > recent, having originated in Africa > <https://www.britannica.com/place/Africa> more than 315,000 years ago > (315 kya). Samje. Thank u KR IRS 12822 > > On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 at 12:42, 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Respected sir, >> >> World piece is by nature, by seas, mountains etc. World peace cannot be >> possible 100% because we are homo sapiens. National peace or a state peace >> itself is only 70%. It is with respect to all nations and continents in the >> earth. >> >> If you read QA on homo sapiens answered by learnt persons in my postings >> , by genes homo sapiens are quarrelsome, selfish, survival of the fittest >> which we see in all countries. >> >> The civilization which we achieve control these type of feelings only to >> certain extent. Within heart everybody is selfish. >> >> Changes in nature are natural when world is inhabited. Unless nature is >> exploited no beings can survive in the earth. >> >> I furnish a copy of my response to groups also this time >> >> Gopalakrishnan >> >> On Friday, 12 August, 2022 at 07:09:53 am IST, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> -- >> *Mar**World Peace to World Piece* >> >> >> >> We do not accept the Biosphere to exist in ease. It must be diseased, for >> economic and scientific advancement among humans. The very phrase ‘World >> Peace’ is made anthropocentric. Because the humans form into groups called >> nations and the groups do wars. We deprived the Biosphere of peace, and >> nature is continuously mutilated into pieces, by destroying the natural >> symbiosis. This destruction is scienced, and we have great high brow >> scholars that discourse, about the balance of power. >> >> Suppose the world or nature is completely at ease. Then the organisms >> understand and interact with each other by breathing, smelling, sensing, >> perceiving and understanding. The Biosphere will become one single >> organism, and the human being will enjoy the rapture of the blank mind, as >> rapture does not allow taxing the Brain with stupid thoughts. From head to >> feet, through every pour of the skin, the human will breathe, smell, sense, >> and rapture in symbiosis. The Human body which in fact is not limited to >> the body as seen in visible spectrum, but which extends into nature in the >> invisible spectrum, exists as part of nature, with nature as self. Today we >> have frozen the part of body which extends into nature in the invisible >> spectrum and which tapers of giving way to another organism, by thinking >> that the body which we see with our eyes is our whole body. We do not feel >> our very connection to nature, to the planet earth and have become the >> observers and not participants in nature. >> >> As the outsiders not connected to nature, but only as observers who >> science, we do not mind destroying nature, to promote science. We are >> destroying nature and our own connection to nature in the invisible >> spectrum, is cut or frozen. The very idea or actually fact that the body >> also perceives has become weird. >> >> When you recognize that your anatomy includes your extension into nature >> in the invisible spectrum, leading ultimately to Gaia or earth, as the >> Biological entity or as one single organism, making you a limb of Gaia, >> then the whole world will become one piece in peace. You become free from >> the tyranny of the visible spectrum, and the rapture of living as a limb of >> Gaia, is today something which we cannot even conceptualize. As a limb of >> nature, every cell in your body perceives, and the mind gets subordinated. >> >> Today your anatomy in the invisible spectrum is frozen or dead. >> Industrialization and urbanization which automatically poisons the land, >> water and air, mutilates your own body in the invisible spectrum. We do not >> even recognize that mutilated and maimed nature means our own mutilation >> and maiming in the invisible spectrum and the disconnection to our very >> partnership as a limb of nature. We have become the cut pieces of the >> organism, Gaia. >> >> To be scientific, you have to remove the participation aspect with the >> subject matter to do the mechanical or Cartesian or scientific observation. >> Observation shall not contain participation for the Cartesian Science, in >> which all nature is just lifeless and feelings-less machine. We are driven >> by this Cartesian dictum, though theoretically we do not agree with him, >> René Descartes, that all organisms except the human feel pain as they are >> just machines. But we have not stopped his grisly science. If he nailed big >> animals to logs and opened their entails to teach mechanical engineering, >> as the animals according to him are only machines, we have advanced further >> in destroying whole nature and call it the great engineering science. >> >> World peace must mean the peace of nature. Otherwise you get the world in >> broken pieces. >> >> Let every University start a park for Holistic Perception, where the >> student practices breathing, smelling, sensing and perceiving with every >> other organism as classmate. Let us stop scandalizing them saying that they >> Darwin each other. >> >> YM >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "iyer123" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/1973848143.523094.1660288354933%40mail.yahoo.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/1973848143.523094.1660288354933%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- *Mar* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/thatha_patty/CACDCHCJ0POYqGhcPFt9TK%3D_NBv3g-HYqegOhy0zJkGKBaNT0dQ%40mail.gmail.com.
