Thanks. Welcome sir. K. R. IRS 12822 On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 at 3:02 PM, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < [email protected]> wrote:
> Rajaram Sir, > Thank you.As usual you rocket the topic to the top high brow space. > YM > > On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 2:33 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Pranam >> The thought of human nature is OK; but the use of reason as " we are >> homosapiens" is unreasonable. I do not know whether homosapien- being, is >> different from other classifications/ That too theory of evolution and >> brand names recorded by the west, are not absolute theories. There are some >> distant fossils discovered from Mainly Germany ( read my comments of the >> west few lines quoted by Mr G pointing out his errors on the same date) >> which cannot read the evolutions of the universe or even the earth. Some >> Greek and Latin names may not be the right theory at all. So reasoning is >> begging the question viz "we are homosapiens". What is meant by Homo >> sapiens and do they exist even now?. "Homo sapiens, (Latin: “wise man”) >> the species <https://www.britannica.com/science/species-taxon> to which >> all modern human beings <https://www.britannica.com/topic/human-being> >> belong. *Homo sapiens* is one of several species grouped into the genus >> <https://www.britannica.com/dictionary/genus> *Homo* >> <https://www.britannica.com/topic/Homo>, but it is the only one that is >> not extinct <https://www.britannica.com/science/extinction-biology>. The >> name *Homo sapiens* was applied in 1758 by the father of modern >> biological classification (*see* taxonomy >> <https://www.britannica.com/science/taxonomy>), Carolus Linnaeus >> <https://www.britannica.com/biography/Carolus-Linnaeus>. It had long >> been known that human beings physically resemble the primates >> <https://www.britannica.com/animal/primate-mammal> more closely than any >> other known living organisms, but at the time it was a daring act to >> classify human beings within the same framework used for the rest of >> nature. Linnaeus, concerned exclusively with similarities in bodily >> structure, faced only the problem of distinguishing *H. sapiens* from >> apes <https://www.britannica.com/animal/ape> (gorillas >> <https://www.britannica.com/animal/Gorilla-primate-genus>, chimpanzees >> <https://www.britannica.com/animal/chimpanzee>, orangutans >> <https://www.britannica.com/animal/orangutan>, and gibbons >> <https://www.britannica.com/animal/gibbon-primate>), which differ from >> humans in numerous bodily as well as cognitive >> <https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cognitive> features. (Charles >> Darwin’s <https://www.britannica.com/biography/Charles-Darwin> treatise >> <https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/treatise> on evolution >> <https://www.britannica.com/science/evolution-scientific-theory>, *On >> the Origin of Species*, would come 101 years later.) Since Linnaeus’s >> time, a large fossil record >> <https://www.britannica.com/science/fossil-record> has been discovered. >> This record contains numerous extinct species that are much more closely >> related to humans than to today’s apes and that were presumably more >> similar to *H. sapiens* behaviorally as well. Following the ancestors of >> modern human beings into the distant past raises the question of what is >> meant by the word *human*. *H. sapiens* is human by definition, whereas >> apes are not. But what of the extinct members of the human tribe ( >> Hominini <https://www.britannica.com/topic/hominin>), who were clearly >> not *H. sapiens* but were nonetheless very much like them? There is no >> definitive answer to this question. Although human evolution can be said to >> involve all those species more closely related to *H. sapiens* than to >> the apes, the adjective *human* is usually applied only to *H. sapiens* and >> other members of the genus *Homo* (e.g., *H. erectus* >> <https://www.britannica.com/topic/Homo-erectus>, *H. habilis* >> <https://www.britannica.com/topic/Homo-habilis>). Behaviorally, only *H. >> sapiens* can be said to be “fully human,” but even the definition of *H. >> sapiens* is a matter of active debate. Some paleoanthropologists >> <https://www.britannica.com/science/paleoanthropology> extend the span >> of this species far back into time to include many anatomically distinctive >> fossils <https://www.britannica.com/science/fossil> that others prefer >> to allocate <https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/allocate> to >> several different extinct species. In contrast, a majority of >> paleoanthropologists, wishing to bring the study of hominins >> <https://www.britannica.com/topic/hominin> into line with that of other >> mammals <https://www.britannica.com/animal/mammal>, prefer to assign to *H. >> sapiens* only those fossil forms that fall within the anatomic spectrum >> of the species as it exists today. In this sense, *H. sapiens* is very >> recent, having originated in Africa >> <https://www.britannica.com/place/Africa> more than 315,000 years ago >> (315 kya). Samje. Thank u KR IRS 12822 >> >> On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 at 12:42, 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Respected sir, >>> >>> World piece is by nature, by seas, mountains etc. World peace cannot be >>> possible 100% because we are homo sapiens. National peace or a state peace >>> itself is only 70%. It is with respect to all nations and continents in the >>> earth. >>> >>> If you read QA on homo sapiens answered by learnt persons in my postings >>> , by genes homo sapiens are quarrelsome, selfish, survival of the fittest >>> which we see in all countries. >>> >>> The civilization which we achieve control these type of feelings only to >>> certain extent. Within heart everybody is selfish. >>> >>> Changes in nature are natural when world is inhabited. Unless nature is >>> exploited no beings can survive in the earth. >>> >>> I furnish a copy of my response to groups also this time >>> >>> Gopalakrishnan >>> >>> On Friday, 12 August, 2022 at 07:09:53 am IST, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *Mar**World Peace to World Piece* >>> >>> >>> >>> We do not accept the Biosphere to exist in ease. It must be diseased, >>> for economic and scientific advancement among humans. The very phrase >>> ‘World Peace’ is made anthropocentric. Because the humans form into groups >>> called nations and the groups do wars. We deprived the Biosphere of peace, >>> and nature is continuously mutilated into pieces, by destroying the natural >>> symbiosis. This destruction is scienced, and we have great high brow >>> scholars that discourse, about the balance of power. >>> >>> Suppose the world or nature is completely at ease. Then the organisms >>> understand and interact with each other by breathing, smelling, sensing, >>> perceiving and understanding. The Biosphere will become one single >>> organism, and the human being will enjoy the rapture of the blank mind, as >>> rapture does not allow taxing the Brain with stupid thoughts. From head to >>> feet, through every pour of the skin, the human will breathe, smell, sense, >>> and rapture in symbiosis. The Human body which in fact is not limited to >>> the body as seen in visible spectrum, but which extends into nature in the >>> invisible spectrum, exists as part of nature, with nature as self. Today we >>> have frozen the part of body which extends into nature in the invisible >>> spectrum and which tapers of giving way to another organism, by thinking >>> that the body which we see with our eyes is our whole body. We do not feel >>> our very connection to nature, to the planet earth and have become the >>> observers and not participants in nature. >>> >>> As the outsiders not connected to nature, but only as observers who >>> science, we do not mind destroying nature, to promote science. We are >>> destroying nature and our own connection to nature in the invisible >>> spectrum, is cut or frozen. The very idea or actually fact that the body >>> also perceives has become weird. >>> >>> When you recognize that your anatomy includes your extension into nature >>> in the invisible spectrum, leading ultimately to Gaia or earth, as the >>> Biological entity or as one single organism, making you a limb of Gaia, >>> then the whole world will become one piece in peace. You become free from >>> the tyranny of the visible spectrum, and the rapture of living as a limb of >>> Gaia, is today something which we cannot even conceptualize. As a limb of >>> nature, every cell in your body perceives, and the mind gets subordinated. >>> >>> Today your anatomy in the invisible spectrum is frozen or dead. >>> Industrialization and urbanization which automatically poisons the land, >>> water and air, mutilates your own body in the invisible spectrum. We do not >>> even recognize that mutilated and maimed nature means our own mutilation >>> and maiming in the invisible spectrum and the disconnection to our very >>> partnership as a limb of nature. We have become the cut pieces of the >>> organism, Gaia. >>> >>> To be scientific, you have to remove the participation aspect with the >>> subject matter to do the mechanical or Cartesian or scientific observation. >>> Observation shall not contain participation for the Cartesian Science, in >>> which all nature is just lifeless and feelings-less machine. We are driven >>> by this Cartesian dictum, though theoretically we do not agree with him, >>> René Descartes, that all organisms except the human feel pain as they are >>> just machines. But we have not stopped his grisly science. If he nailed big >>> animals to logs and opened their entails to teach mechanical engineering, >>> as the animals according to him are only machines, we have advanced further >>> in destroying whole nature and call it the great engineering science. >>> >>> World peace must mean the peace of nature. Otherwise you get the world >>> in broken pieces. >>> >>> Let every University start a park for Holistic Perception, where the >>> student practices breathing, smelling, sensing and perceiving with every >>> other organism as classmate. Let us stop scandalizing them saying that they >>> Darwin each other. >>> >>> YM >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "iyer123" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/1973848143.523094.1660288354933%40mail.yahoo.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/1973848143.523094.1660288354933%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> > > -- > *Mar* > -- Sent from Gmail Mobile -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/thatha_patty/CAL5XZoqnk02TWGpgktTJnE_uU4RpT-BJ8BssTDWNcJ7CsWnyLA%40mail.gmail.com.
