Sir,
What prevents us from changing the paradigm for the classroom.You,I or
anyone else is not an inanimate feeling less machine,the economic man.Why
teach about that phantom?
YM

On Sun, Nov 27, 2022 at 11:09 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
[email protected]> wrote:

> I do understand your anxiety sir; but you have to consider the variables
> happening every day, in the permutations and combinations, which one may
> have to tackle and one that changes your anxiety in entirety. We do not/
> cannot have any specific king-system to dictate; When Rahul and unto and
> Pintos are talking opposing words to destabilise the nation's peace, Modi
> cannot surge forward; the army shall reverse the anti situations; then go
> ahead; and this is happening every day; hence the utopian theory of
> symbiosis cannot happen; but individually wee can; but we do not practice
> all the years of lives; we become the wise suddenly; so anxiety is
> understandable; but pragmatic approaches do differ. KR IRS 271122
>
> On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 at 10:49, Yeddanapudi Markandeyulu <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Sir,
>> My point is about the basic paradigm of economics which is not based on
>> Ecology that too symbiotic ecology.We do not teach Physics or Chemistry
>> from the bureaucratic angle of administration.
>> YM
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2022 at 8:54 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Q     In the economics of nature, there is symbiosis, and nature grows
>>> and prospers in freedom. Every organism lives as a component of the healthy
>>> biosphere. But in the economics dominated by Rene Descartes today, we view
>>> all nature as lifeless and emotions less and feelings less items with
>>> license to us to contaminate and destroy. The drift of economics into
>>> mechanics and mathematics has made us indifferent to the rights of every
>>> organism including humans. Economic activity has become the destruction of
>>> nature as today's economic routine.
>>> KR     It is a view , may be pessimistic too. Cannot say erroneous.
>>> Suppose the nation and earth gets every day wakes up, loiter all around,
>>> plucks the food if available; or steals the food; or murders for food; will
>>> there be symbiosiss?. On the contrary a regulation alone determines the
>>> discipline of the society. And food distribution is based on the economics
>>> calculations of the movements and availability. So economics had to enter .
>>> Then the circulation depends on the needs and availability according to the
>>> geography and so changes have to be made in the implementations. Because
>>> now food is easier to get and satisfied too, mind turns a devil's workshop;
>>> some say yes; some say no; and so the skirmish far and against
>>> the distribution would emanate; and then the economy would naturally get
>>> altered according to the needs and availability of the people and not
>>> unilaterally, as it was once. Hence to avert barbarism economice is vital;
>>> but economics must be synbiotic because, something has to be protected; and
>>> in that process, again barbarism and a new economics would surface; cyclic
>>> order is inevitable.  Recently I saw Kantara kannada movie in Tamil;
>>> Kampala people ( as in TN Jallikattu) , feels the worship of the King and
>>> the God as relevant and forest astheir fortress of living with the nature;
>>> but Govt wants forests to be protected; similar interests but two ways of
>>> movements. The third the King would be a go between; the executives will
>>> stand by for the Govt; people are forced to change; and so what I saw is
>>> "we are all well settled a minority; there is a big tribal population with
>>> good faith, unlike us, residing far away; who cares for them?; which
>>> economics is pervading?. King's or peoples' or the executives?. Unilateral
>>> thoughts cannot exist as seen in the history. So sans economics as
>>> symbiotic is an utopia. KR IRS 271122
>>>
>>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 at 07:00, Markendeya Yeddanapudi <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *Mar*The Symbiotic Economics
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In spite of all the upholding and championing of the mechanical
>>>> paradigm, bludgeoning all to view every life form as a machine, we have not
>>>> been able to become emotionless. The mechanical view is creating depression
>>>> and distrust of nature, unseating God, who hitherto was the guiding light
>>>> of life. We refuse to note, the glaring, staring and clear fact, that we
>>>> all live emotionally and cannot live mechanically and that not a single
>>>> emotion can be quantified and that mathematical reduction is impossible in
>>>> the case of emotions, the basic motivations of life.
>>>>
>>>> The main torture of economics is the attempt to remove feeling from
>>>> seeing, and view everything mechanically and analyze everything including
>>>> feelings into mechanical components, governed by mathematics and reducing
>>>> everything into mathematical equation.
>>>>
>>>> But just write this small sentence ‘I love you’, using only numerals
>>>> without using words. Every emotion, feeling and motivation refuses to be
>>>> regulated, tamed or expressed in mathematics. You cannot quantify a single
>>>> emotion.
>>>>
>>>> The Biosphere emotionally is one organism, where the component
>>>> organisms interact, on the basis of smelling, sensing and feeling. That
>>>> very existence of the Biosphere as one organism is now under fatal attack,
>>>> or the whole of nature is under attack. But we ignore this threat at the
>>>> foundation, by drowning ourselves in econometrics, and drowning in egoism,
>>>> as the artificial mathematical presentation is really without meaning, and
>>>> by deceiving ourselves that the basic meaninglessness is high brow.
>>>>
>>>> In the economics of nature, there is symbiosis, and nature grows and
>>>> prospers in freedom. Every organism, lives as a component of the healthy
>>>> biosphere. But in the economics dominated by Rene Descartes today, we view
>>>> all nature as lifeless and emotions less and feelings less items with
>>>> license to us to contaminate and destroy. The drift of economics into
>>>> mechanics and mathematics has made us indifferent to the rights of every
>>>> organism including humans. Economic activity has become the destruction of
>>>> nature as the day today economic routine.
>>>>
>>>> The Universities have to take initiative and substitute by Ecology,
>>>> actually by Emotional Ecology in the place of economics.We need the
>>>> symbiotic economics and not the present Social Darwinism.
>>>>
>>>> YM
>>>>
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