Respected sir,
I have read your quote from Udyoga Parva THREE times again. Where it is told
Lord Krishna was ruling Dwaraka on behalf of Ugrasena?
Kindly highlight where it is told.
I am not able to understand anything from your reply
Gopalakrishnan
On Wednesday, 18 October, 2023 at 09:59:33 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy
<[email protected]> wrote:
If you do not have the power of assignment to transfer someone else's
property, will you do it and it will be accepted by the properties whether
matter pr men and materials? Transfer is a power of individual holding. If so
many soldiers are that of Krishna he can give it up; as a commander he can also
join sides; if not you have to take permission from Alexander who assigned the
kingdom to the Indian king. Who wields the power alone may. May means shall.
Yesterday my write up you shall read with today and come to a conclusion
Krishna was the Benami King. KR IRS 181023
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Respected sir,
I have read your quote from Udyoga Parva THREE times. Where it is told Lord
Krishna was ruling Dwaraka on behalf of Ugrasena? Kindly highlight where it is
told.
Gopalakrishnan
On Wednesday, 18 October, 2023 at 04:01:05 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy
<[email protected]> wrote:
CULTURAL QA 10202318
Q1 WhenMahabharata was fought, was Krishna the king of Dwaraka?
KR If it isugrasena army and Krishna is only a commander, under ugrasena,
how can acommander opt out to one side without the permission of the King?
Krishna commanded his army as head of statewhich was ruled by Ugrasena on HIS
behalf; so HE had all the power. ReadOriginal Mahabharatham: Mahabharatham
Udyoga parva
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Section VII
"Vaisampayana said, 'Having despatched the priest to the city called after the
elephant they sent messengers to the kings of various countries. And having
sent messengers to other places, the Kuru hero Dhananjaya, that bull among men
and son of Kunti, himself set out for Dwaraka. And after Krishna and Valadeva,
the descendants of Madhu, had both departed for Dwaraka with all the Vrishnis,
the Andhakas and the Bhojas, by hundreds, the royal son of Dhritarashtra had,
by sending secret emissaries, furnished himself with information of all the
doings of the Pandavas. And learning that Krishna was on his way, the prince
went to the city of Dwaraka by means of fine horses possessing the speed of the
wind, and taking with him a small number of troops. And on that very day the
son of Kunti and Pandu, Dhananjaya, also speedily arrived at the beautiful city
of the Anarta land. And the two scions of the Kuru race, those tigers among
men, on arriving there saw that Krishna was asleep, and drew near him as he lay
down. And as Krishna was sleeping, Duryodhana entered the room, and sat down on
a fine seat at the head of the bed. And after him entered that wearer of the
diadem the magnanimous Arjuna. And stood at the back of the bed, bowing and
joining his hands. And when the descendant of Vrishni, Krishna awoke, he first
cast his eyes on Arjuna. And having asked them as to the safety of their
journey, and having fitly bestowed his greetings upon them, the slayer of Madhu
questioned them as to the occasion of their visit. Then Duryodhana addressed
Krishna, with a cheerful countenance, saying, It behoveth you to lend me your
help in the impending war. Arjuna and myself are both equally your friends.
And, O descendant of Madhu, you also bear the same relationship to both of us.
And today, O slayer of Madhu, I have been the first to come to you.
Right-minded persons take up the cause of him who comes first to them. This is
how the ancients acted. And, O Krishna, you stand at the very top of all
right-minded persons in the world, and are always respected. I ask you to
follow the rule of conduct observed by rightminded men.' Thereat Krishna
replied, 'That you have come first, O king, I do not in the least doubt. But, O
king, the son of Kunti, Dhananjaya, has been first beheld by me. On account of
your first arrival, and on account of my having beheld Arjuna first, I shall,
no doubt, lend my assistance, O Suyodhana, to both. But it is said that those
who are junior in years should have the first choice. Therefore, Dhananjaya,
the son of Kunti, is entitled to first choice. There is a large body of
cowherds numbering ten crores, rivalling me in strength and known as the
Narayanas, all of whom are able to fight in the thick of battle. These
soldiers, irresistible in battle, shall be sent to one of you and I alone,
resolved not to fight on the field, and laying down my arms, will go to the
other. You may, O son of Kunti, first select whichever of these two commends
itself to you. For, according to law, you have the right to the first choice.'
"Vaisampayana continued, 'Thus addressed by Krishna, Dhananjaya the son of
Kunti selected Kesava who was not to fight on the battle-field, even Narayana
himself, the slayer of foes, increate, born among men at his own will,--the
foremost of all Kshatriyas and above all the gods and the Danavas. And
Duryodhana selected for himself that entire army (composed of the Narayanas).
And, O descendant of Bharata, having obtained those troops numbering thousands
upon thousands, he was exceedingly delighted, although he knew that Krishna was
not on his side. And having secured that army possessed of terrible prowess,
Duryodhana went to the son of Rohini of great strength, and explained to him
the object of his visit. The descendant of Sura in reply addressed the
following words to Dhritarashtra's son, 'Thou shouldst remember, O tiger among
men, all that I said at the marriage ceremony celebrated by Vitrata. O thou
delighter of the race of Kuru, for thy sake I then contradicted Krishna and
spoke against his opinions. And again and again I alluded to the equality of
our relationship to both the parties. But Krishna did not adopt the views I
then expressed; nor can I separate myself from Krishna for even a single
moment. And seeing that I cannot act against Krishna even this is resolution
formed by me, viz., that I will fight neither for Kunti's sons nor for you.
And, O bull of the Bharatas, born as thou art in Bharata's race that is
honoured by all the kings, go and fight in accordance with the rules of
propriety.'
"Vaisampayana continued, 'Thus addressed, Duryodhana embraced that hero
wielding a plough for his weapon of battle, and although knowing that Krishna
had been taken away from his side, he yet regarded Arjuna as already
vanquished. And the royal son of Dhritarashtra then went to Kritavarman. And
Kritavarman gave him a body of troops numbering an Akshauhini. And surrounded
by that military host, terrible to behold, the Kaurava marched forth delighting
his friends. And after Duryodhana had departed, Krishna, the Creator of the
world, clad in yellow attire, addressed Kiritin, saying, 'For what reason is it
that you have selected me who will not fight at all?'
"Thereupon Arjuna answered, 'I question not that you are able to slay them all.
I also am alone capable of slaying them, O best of men. But you are an
illustrious person in the world; and this renown will accompany you. I also am
a suitor for fame; therefore, you have been selected by me. It hath been always
my desire to have you driving my car. I, therefore, ask you to fulfil my desire
cherished for a long time.'
"Vasudeva's son thereupon said, It beseems thee well, O Kunti's son, that thou
measurest thyself with me. I will act as thy charioteer; let thy wish be
fulfilled.'
"Vaisampayana continued, 'Then with a glad heart, Kunti's son, accompanied by
Krishna as well as by the flower of the Dasarha race, came back to
Yudhishthira.'
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Q2 Why is"Chenni Malai" in Tamil Nadu renamed as "Yesu Malai"? Is itthe
beginning of "Sanatana Ozhippu" as said by the DMK Minister?
KR Has everythingcome to an end in spite of regrets expressed by pastor
yesterday?
Q5 Is it truethat Pluto has never completed an orbit since its discovery?
⚪️🔄?
KR Stupidity thyname is Quora: Not only Pluto so many had not completed the
revolution sincediscovered
As for how manyorbits, that would depend on how long ago Pluto formed in
our solar system. Thesolar system is about 5 billion years old. The Earth is
about 4.6 billion years. IfPluto was formed at the time as Earth, It would have
orbited the Sun 18,548,387.09677419times using 248 Earth years for one orbit.
So Pluto astrologicallydid its orbit well ahead; but the issue is that
only in 2178 it will render itsevolution once since discovered in 1930 -is
totally different.
KR IRS 181023
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From: 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2023 at 12:23
Subject: [iyer123] CULTURAL QA 10-2023-18
To: Patty Thatha <[email protected]>, Iyer
<[email protected]>, Kerala Iyer <[email protected]>
CULTURAL QA 10-2023-18
All the BELOW QA are from Quora digest to me on 18-10- 2023.
Quora answers need not be 100% correct answers
.Compiled and posted byR. Gopala krishnan, on 18-10-2023
Q1 When Mahabharata was fought, was Krishna the king of Dwaraka?
A1 Chaitanya Kulkarni, The one who knows;when ppl quote "whoknows?"!7y
No!
Krishna was the prince and commander of the Armies of Dwaraka, whileBalarama
was crown prince and de facto administrator as, King Ugrasena was still the
emperorof Dwaraka, but reigned over mathura. (Source: wikipedia and loads and
loads ofstories I read about the epic battle!)
Since he wascommander of the great army of Yadavas -Duryodhan reached out
toKrishna to seek allegiance when war became inevitable. Forthose who don't
know what happend next...
Duryodhan reached firstand found Krishna asleep , so he waited right beside bed.
Shortly arrived Arjuna,and he too waited for Krishna to wake up.
Krishna when woke up ; he(strategically) happend to notice Arjuna first and
then Duryodhan. To them,Krishna said -
Both of you have come andboth of you are asking for the same thing, so let me
put it this way.
One of you can have myarmy, another can have me.
But I won’t fight, I’lljust accompany you in war. Because my vision fell upon
Arjuna first, he getsthe first choice.” Duryodhana protested, “I came here
first!” Krishna said,“But what can I do? I saw him first.”
Wise Arjuna chose Krishna while -Duryodhan happily choseYadav army! This
mistake cost Duryodhan dearly... And the rest is history !
My note- I have raised a doubt about Krishna granting army to Duryodhana,what
power he said so, if Ugrasena was king ofDwaraka in yesterday’ s QA.
No I got the answer- Krishna was commander of the army.
Q2 Why is "Chenni Malai" in TamilNadu renamed as "Yesu Malai"? Is it the
beginning of "SanatanaOzhippu" as said by the DMK Minister?
A2 Gautham Sampath,Knows Tamil23h
Chenni Malai is not renamed as “Yesu Malai”.It's not relatedto DMK also.
Let me explain.After goingthrough various sources, I understood that Chennai
Malai houses a Murugan Temple on it's top.
The speciality of Chennai Malai is that Sundarvalli and Amirthavalli whowere
the sisters did penance here to marry Murugan and later they were born
asDeivayanai and Valli and they marry Murugan.
Also this temple is saidto be built by Cholas 1000 years ago.
Also there are nearly 24 Thirthas on this hill and thefamous Tamil song
KandaShasti Kavasam is said to have been Sunday here by the saint
Arunagirinathar.
It's a famous temple fordevotees in Kongu Nadu as it's situated in Erode.
One more famous thing thatyou can see is everyday a bull climbs itself
accompanied by two men carryingmilk pots for Murugan in this 1320 step hill.
The reason for the protestof the devotees of the temple was just because of the
talks of a pastor that hewill rename this temple to “Yesu Malai” or Jesus Hill
or as “Kalvali Malai”.
It's said a Christianmissionary group was trying to convert many people around
this region and whenthey were , the Hindu members hit them.
Because of which theChristian pastor had arranged a protest and in front of his
people the pastor spoke that he willchange the name of the hill to Yesu Malai
and thus this bought anger among thedevottees and Hindu Members of the region.
Thus the devotees organizeda protest to arrest that pastor.
The temple is safe andeverything is fine and it's a talk of the pastor that has
created theseprotests otherwise all good. People have everything under control!
My note- I have added this QA for the fact a bullclimbs 1320 steps with milk
for abhishekam in this temple.
Chennimalai is famous for making jamukkalams
Q3 What should I know before taking a cruise?
A3 Warner Athey.Mon
Get your passport. Decidewhere you what to go. Most cabins are based on doubled
occupancy so findsomeone to go with you, Decide what port you want to cruise
from. Decide howlong you want to cruise. Decide what ship. you want to go on.
Decide what typeof cabin you want, balcony, inside or ocean view etc. Decide if
you want earlydining or late dining, Decide what time of year you want to go.
You can’t bring your own beerbut you can bring your own cans of Coke. You can
drink the water you don’t haveto buy it. You don’t need to bring any food.
There is plenty of food availableon cruise ships.
My note- Along with passport VISA also.
Q4 Is Turmeric bad for your kidneys?
A4 Julia Weiss Khan,Certified Nurse Practitioner at St. Paul'sHospital
(2017–present)Sat
Turmeric, a bright yellowspice derived from the root of the Curcuma longa
plant, has gained popularityin recent years due to its potential health
benefits. It is known for its active compound calledcurcumin, which has
antioxidant and anti-inflammatory properties. As acertified nurse practitioner,
I can provide you with information regarding theeffects of turmeric on kidney
health.
In general, turmericis not considered bad for your kidneys when consumed
inmoderation as partof a balanced diet. In fact, it may even offer some
potential benefits forkidney health, primarily due to its anti-inflammatory
properties. However,there are a few considerations to keep in mind:
1. Curcumin content:Curcumin is the active compound in turmeric responsible for
its healthbenefits. It can be both beneficial and potentially harmful to
thekidneys, depending on the dosage. Highdoses of curcumin supplements may
cause kidney problems in someindividuals, especially if they already have
existing kidney issues. Therefore,it's essential to consume turmeric in
moderate amounts throughout your dietrather than taking high-dose supplements.
2. Potential for kidneystone formation: Turmericis high in oxalates, which can
contribute to the formation of kidney stones insome people. If you have a
history of kidney stones or are at anincreased risk for them, you may want to
limit your turmeric intake. It'scrucial to maintain proper hydration and
consume a balanced diet to minimizethe risk of kidney stones.
3. Interaction with medications: Turmeric may interactwith certain medications,
including those prescribed for kidney conditions. Itcan affect the absorption
and metabolism of drugs, potentially altering theireffectiveness. If you have
kidney disease and are taking medications, consultyour healthcare provider
before adding turmeric to your diet.
4. Allergic reactions: While rare, some individuals may beallergic to turmeric.
Allergic reactions can affect the kidneys, so if youexperience any unusual
symptoms after consuming turmeric, such as swelling,difficulty breathing, or
hives, seek medical attention promptly.
5. Maintain a balanced diet: If you have kidneyconcerns, it's important to
focus on a well-balanced diet that is low insodium, processed foods, and
saturated fats. Including a variety of freshfruits, vegetables, and whole
grains in your diet can be beneficial for kidneyhealth.
In summary, turmeric is not inherently bad for your kidneys when consumedin
moderation and as part of a balanced diet. It may evenoffer some potential
benefits due to its anti-inflammatory properties. However, individuals with
kidney disease, kidney stone history, or thosetaking specific medications
should consult their healthcare provider beforeadding turmericto their diet.
Always aim to maintain a healthy and balanced dietaryapproach to support your
overall kidney health.
My note- Turmeric powder takes away any poisonous effectof contents of a dish
when added in limited quantity. Tapioca is alwaysboiled adding turmeric powder
to removeany poisonous effect.
Q5 Is it true that Pluto has never completedan orbit since its discovery?
⚪️🔄?
A5 Euterpe Muse,Jul 15
Absolutely!This is due to the immense length of Pluto's orbit.
In order to complete a single revolution around the Sun,Pluto embarks on a
staggering journey spanning over 30 billion kilometers!
By comparison, Earth's orbit measures a mere 900 million kilometers, makingit
approximately 40 times smaller in scale.
Also, Pluto's distant locationfrom the Sun causes it to move at a slower pace.
Thegravitational pull it experiences is considerably weaker, contributing to
itsleisurely movement.
Pluto maintains an averagespeed of around 16,000 km/h, while Earth soars at
approximately107,000 km/h, making it over 6 times faster in its orbital journey.
Interestingly, the discovery of Pluto came relativelylate. It wasn't until
1930, a remarkable 93 years ago,that humanity first encountered this celestial
wanderer. Its small size and vast distance from Earth made its detection
achallenging endeavor.
Considering that Pluto'sorbital period spans 248 Earth years, it will not
revisit its original positionat the time of its discovery for at least another
155 years. Oh yeah
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