If u lack understanding power pl forget about it; if you sleep I can wake you up; but when you pretend only you have to wake up; What I wrote is far far far better stuff than the childish Quora. Mr G do you have the power of transfer of someone else's asset as you like including yourself? No part of veda was written for G to understand. I care 2 hoots when you pretend. It is certainly written there which your mind must capture. Had you known the language even sanskrit version I would have given you K R IRS 19 10 23
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: gopala krishnan <[email protected]> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2023 at 09:36 Subject: Re: [KeralaIyers] Fwd: [iyer123] CULTURAL QA 10-2023-18 To: [email protected] <[email protected]>, Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]>, Iyer <[email protected]>, Patty Thatha <[email protected]> Respected sir, I have read your quote from Udyoga Parva *THREE *times again. *Where it is told Lord Krishna was ruling Dwaraka on behalf of Ugrasena?* Kindly highlight where it is told. I am not able to understand anything from your reply Gopalakrishnan On Wednesday, 18 October, 2023 at 09:59:33 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy < [email protected]> wrote: If you do not have the power of assignment to transfer someone else's property, will you do it and it will be accepted by the properties whether matter pr men and materials? Transfer is a power of individual holding. If so many soldiers are that of Krishna he can give it up; as a commander he can also join sides; if not you have to take permission from Alexander who assigned the kingdom to the Indian king. Who wields the power alone may. May means shall. Yesterday my write up you shall read with today and come to a conclusion Krishna was the Benami King. KR IRS 181023 ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: *gopala krishnan* <[email protected]> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2023 at 17:27 Subject: Re: [KeralaIyers] Fwd: [iyer123] CULTURAL QA 10-2023-18 To: [email protected] <[email protected]>, Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]>, Iyer <[email protected]>, Patty Thatha <[email protected]> Respected sir, I have read your quote from Udyoga Parva *THREE *times. Where it is told Lord Krishna was ruling Dwaraka on behalf of Ugrasena? Kindly highlight where it is told. Gopalakrishnan On Wednesday, 18 October, 2023 at 04:01:05 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy < [email protected]> wrote: CULTURAL QA 10202318 Q1 When Mahabharata was fought, was Krishna the king of Dwaraka? KR If it is ugrasena army and Krishna is only a commander, under ugrasena, how can a commander opt out to one side without the permission of the King? Krishna commanded his army as head of state which was ruled by Ugrasena on HIS behalf; so HE had all the power. Read Original Mahabharatham: Mahabharatham Udyoga parva *Section VII* "Vaisampayana said, 'Having despatched the priest to the city called after the elephant they sent messengers to the kings of various countries. And having sent messengers to other places, the Kuru hero Dhananjaya, that bull among men and son of Kunti, himself set out for Dwaraka. And after Krishna and Valadeva, the descendants of Madhu, had both departed for Dwaraka with all the Vrishnis, the Andhakas and the Bhojas, by hundreds, the royal son of Dhritarashtra had, by sending secret emissaries, furnished himself with information of all the doings of the Pandavas. And learning that Krishna was on his way, the prince went to the city of Dwaraka by means of fine horses possessing the speed of the wind, and taking with him a small number of troops. And on that very day the son of Kunti and Pandu, Dhananjaya, also speedily arrived at the beautiful city of the Anarta land. And the two scions of the Kuru race, those tigers among men, on arriving there saw that Krishna was asleep, and drew near him as he lay down. And as Krishna was sleeping, Duryodhana entered the room, and sat down on a fine seat at the head of the bed. And after him entered that wearer of the diadem the magnanimous Arjuna. And stood at the back of the bed, bowing and joining his hands. And when the descendant of Vrishni, Krishna awoke, he first cast his eyes on Arjuna. And having asked them as to the safety of their journey, and having fitly bestowed his greetings upon them, the slayer of Madhu questioned them as to the occasion of their visit. Then Duryodhana addressed Krishna, with a cheerful countenance, saying, It behoveth you to lend me your help in the impending war. Arjuna and myself are both equally your friends. And, O descendant of Madhu, you also bear the same relationship to both of us. And today, O slayer of Madhu, I have been the first to come to you. Right-minded persons take up the cause of him who comes first to them. This is how the ancients acted. And, O Krishna, you stand at the very top of all right-minded persons in the world, and are always respected. I ask you to follow the rule of conduct observed by rightminded men.' Thereat Krishna replied, 'That you have come first, O king, I do not in the least doubt. But, O king, the son of Kunti, Dhananjaya, has been first *beheld* by me. On account of your first arrival, and on account of my having beheld Arjuna first, I shall, no doubt, lend my assistance, O Suyodhana, to both. But it is said that those who are junior in years should have the first choice. Therefore, Dhananjaya, the son of Kunti, is entitled to first choice. There is a large body of cowherds numbering ten crores, rivalling me in strength and known as the Narayanas, all of whom are able to fight in the thick of battle. These soldiers, irresistible in battle, shall be sent to one of you and I alone, resolved not to fight on the field, and laying down my arms, will go to the other. You may, O son of Kunti, first select whichever of these two commends itself to you. For, according to law, you have the right to the first choice.' "Vaisampayana continued, 'Thus addressed by Krishna, Dhananjaya the son of Kunti selected Kesava who was not to fight on the battle-field, even Narayana himself, the slayer of foes, increate, born among men at his own will,--the foremost of all Kshatriyas and above all the gods and the *Danavas*. And Duryodhana selected for himself that entire army (composed of the Narayanas). And, O descendant of Bharata, having obtained those troops numbering thousands upon thousands, he was exceedingly delighted, although he knew that Krishna was not on his side. And having secured that army possessed of terrible prowess, Duryodhana went to the son of Rohini of great strength, and explained to him the object of his visit. The descendant of Sura in reply addressed the following words to Dhritarashtra's son, 'Thou shouldst remember, O tiger among men, all that I said at the marriage ceremony celebrated by Vitrata. O thou delighter of the race of Kuru, for thy sake I then contradicted Krishna and spoke against his opinions. And again and again I alluded to the equality of our relationship to both the parties. But Krishna did not adopt the views I then expressed; nor can I separate myself from Krishna for even a single moment. And seeing that I cannot act against Krishna even this is resolution formed by me, *viz*., that I will fight neither for Kunti's sons nor for you. And, O bull of the Bharatas, born as thou art in Bharata's race that is honoured by all the kings, go and fight in accordance with the rules of propriety.' "Vaisampayana continued, 'Thus addressed, Duryodhana embraced that hero wielding a plough for his weapon of battle, and although knowing that Krishna had been taken away from his side, he yet regarded Arjuna as already vanquished. And the royal son of Dhritarashtra then went to Kritavarman. And Kritavarman gave him a body of troops numbering an *Akshauhini*. And surrounded by that military host, terrible to behold, the Kaurava marched forth delighting his friends. And after Duryodhana had departed, Krishna, the Creator of the world, clad in yellow attire, addressed Kiritin, saying, 'For what reason is it that you have selected me who will not fight at all?' "Thereupon Arjuna answered, 'I question not that you are able to slay them all. I also am alone capable of slaying them, O best of men. But you are an illustrious person in the world; and this renown will accompany you. I also am a suitor for fame; therefore, you have been selected by me. It hath been always my desire to have you driving my car. I, therefore, ask you to fulfil my desire cherished for a long time.' "Vasudeva's son thereupon said, It beseems thee well, O Kunti's son, that thou measurest thyself with me. I will act as thy charioteer; let thy wish be fulfilled.' "Vaisampayana continued, 'Then with a glad heart, Kunti's son, accompanied by Krishna as well as by the flower of the Dasarha race, came back to Yudhishthira.' xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Q2 Why is "Chenni Malai" in Tamil Nadu renamed as "Yesu Malai"? Is it the beginning of "Sanatana Ozhippu" as said by the DMK Minister? KR Has everything come to an end in spite of regrets expressed by pastor yesterday? Q5 Is it true that Pluto has never completed an orbit since its discovery? ⚪️🔄? KR Stupidity thy name is Quora: Not only Pluto so many had not completed the revolution since discovered As for how many orbits, that would depend on how long ago Pluto formed in our solar system. The solar system is about 5 billion years old. The Earth is about 4.6 billion years. If Pluto was formed at the time as Earth, It would have orbited the Sun 18,548,387.09677419 times using 248 Earth years for one orbit. So Pluto astrologically did its orbit well ahead; but the issue is that only in 2178 it will render its evolution once since discovered in 1930 -is totally different. KR IRS 181023 ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: *'gopala krishnan' via iyer123* <[email protected]> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2023 at 12:23 Subject: [iyer123] CULTURAL QA 10-2023-18 To: Patty Thatha <[email protected]>, Iyer < [email protected]>, Kerala Iyer <[email protected]> *CULTURAL QA 10-2023-18* *All the BELOW QA are from Quora digest to me on 18-10- 2023.* *Quora answers need not be 100% correct answers * *.Compiled* *and posted by R. Gopala krishnan, on 18-10-2023* *Q1 When Mahabharata was fought, was Krishna the king of Dwaraka?* *A1 Chaitanya Kulkarni, The one who knows;when ppl quote "who knows?"!7y* *No!* *Krishna was the prince and commander of the Armies of Dwaraka**, while Balarama was crown prince and de facto administrator as, King Ugrasena was still the emperor of Dwaraka, but reigned over mathura. (Source: wikipedia and loads and loads of stories I read about the epic battle!)* *Since **he was commander of the great army **of Yadavas -Duryodhan reached out to Krishna to seek allegiance when war became inevitable**. For those who don't know what happend next...* *Duryodhan reached first and found Krishna asleep , so he waited right beside bed.* *Shortly arrived Arjuna, and he too waited for Krishna to wake up.* *Krishna when woke up ; he (strategically) happend to notice Arjuna first and then Duryodhan. To them, Krishna said -* *Both of you have come and both of you are asking for the same thing, so let me put it this way. * *One of you can have **my army**, another can have me.* *But I won’t fight, I’ll just accompany you in war. Because my vision fell upon Arjuna first, he gets the first choice.” Duryodhana protested, “I came here first!” Krishna said, “But what can I do? I saw him first.”* *Wise Arjuna chose Krishna while -Duryodhan happily chose Yadav army! This mistake cost Duryodhan dearly... And the rest is history !* *My note- I have raised a doubt about Krishna granting army to Duryodhana, what power he said** so, if Ugrasena was king of Dwaraka in yesterday’ s QA. * *No I got the answer- Krishna was commander of the army.* *Q2 Why is "Chenni Malai" in Tamil Nadu renamed as "Yesu Malai"? Is it the beginning of "Sanatana Ozhippu" as said by the DMK Minister?* *A2 Gautham Sampath,Knows Tamil23h* *Chenni Malai is not renamed as “Yesu Malai”.It's not related to DMK also.* *Let me explain.After going through various sources, I understood that Chennai Malai houses a Murugan Temple on it's top.* *The speciality of Chennai Malai is that Sundarvalli and Amirthavalli who were the sisters did penance here to marry Murugan and later they were born as Deivayanai and Valli and they marry Murugan.* *Also this temple is said to be built by Cholas 1000 years ago.* *Also there are nearly 24 Thirthas on this hill and** the famous Tamil song Kanda Shasti Kavasam is said to have been Sunday here by the saint Arunagirinathar.* *It's a famous temple for devotees in Kongu Nadu as it's situated in Erode.* *One more famous thing that you can see is everyday a bull climbs itself accompanied by two men carrying milk pots for Murugan in this 1320 step hill.* *The reason for the protest of the devotees of the temple was just because of the talks of a pastor that he will rename this temple to “Yesu Malai” or Jesus Hill or as “Kalvali Malai”.* *It's said a Christian missionary group was trying to convert many people around this region and when they were , the Hindu members hit them.* *Because of which the Christian pastor had arranged a protest and in front of his people the pastor spoke that he will change the name of the hill to Yesu Malai and thus this bought anger among the devottees and Hindu Members of the region.* *Thus the devotees organized a protest to arrest that pastor.* *The temple is safe and everything is fine and it's a talk of the pastor that has created these protests otherwise all good. People have everything under control!* *My note- I have added this QA for the fact a** bull climbs 1320 steps with milk for abhishekam in this temple. * *Chennimalai is famous for making jamukkalams* *Q3 What should I know before taking a cruise?* *A3 Warner Athey.Mon* *Get your passport**. Decide where you what to go. Most cabins are based on doubled occupancy so find someone to go with you, Decide what port you want to cruise from. Decide how long you want to cruise. Decide what ship. you want to go on. Decide what type of cabin you want, balcony, inside or ocean view etc. Decide if you want early dining or late dining, Decide what time of year you want to go. You can’t bring your own beer but you can bring your own cans of Coke. You can drink the water you don’t have to buy it. You don’t need to bring any food. There is plenty of food available on cruise ships.* *My note- Along with passport VISA also.* *Q4 Is Turmeric bad for your kidneys?* *A4 Julia Weiss Khan,Certified Nurse Practitioner at St. Paul's Hospital (2017–present)Sat* *Turmeric, a bright yellow spice derived from the root of the Curcuma longa plant, has gained popularity in recent years due to its potential health benefits. It is known for its active compound called curcumin, which has antioxidant and anti-inflammatory properties. As a certified nurse practitioner, I can provide you with information regarding the effects of turmeric on kidney health.* *In general, turmeric is not considered bad for your kidneys when consumed **in moderation* *as part of a balanced diet. In fact, it may even offer some potential benefits for kidney health, primarily due to its anti-inflammatory properties. However, there are a few considerations to keep in mind:* *1. Curcumin content: Curcumin is the active compound in turmeric responsible for its health benefits. It can be both beneficial and potentially harmful to the kidneys, depending on the dosage. High doses of curcumin supplements may cause kidney problems in some individuals, especially if they already have existing kidney issues. Therefore, it's essential to consume turmeric in moderate amounts throughout your diet rather than taking high-dose supplements.* *2. Potential for kidney stone formation: Turmeric is high in oxalates, which can contribute to the formation of kidney stones in some people. If you have a history of kidney stones or are at an increased risk for them, you may want to limit your turmeric intake. It's crucial to maintain proper hydration and consume a balanced diet to minimize the risk of kidney stones.* *3. Interaction with medications: Turmeric may** interact with certain medications, including those prescribed for kidney conditions. It can affect the absorption and metabolism of drugs, potentially altering their effectiveness. If you have kidney disease and are taking medications, consult your healthcare provider before adding turmeric to your diet.* *4. Allergic reactions: While rare, some individuals** may be allergic to turmeric. Allergic reactions can affect the kidneys, so if you experience any unusual symptoms after consuming turmeric, such as swelling, difficulty breathing, or hives, seek medical attention promptly.* *5. Maintain a balanced diet: If you have kidney** concerns, it's important to focus on a well-balanced diet that is low in sodium, processed foods, and saturated fats. Including a variety of fresh fruits, vegetables, and whole grains in your diet can be beneficial for kidney health.* *In summary, turmeric is not inherently bad for your kidneys when consumed in moderation** and as part of a balanced diet. It may even offer some potential benefits due to its anti-inflammatory properties. However, individuals with kidney disease, kidney stone history, or those taking specific medications should consult their healthcare provider before adding turmeric to their diet. Always aim to maintain a healthy and balanced dietary approach to support your overall kidney health.* *My note- Turmeric powder takes away any** poisonous effect of contents of a dish when added in limited quantity. Tapioca is always boiled adding turmeric powder to remove any poisonous effect.* *Q5 Is it true that Pluto has never completed an orbit since its discovery? **⚪️🔄**?* *A5 Euterpe Muse,Jul 15* *Absolutely!This is due to the immense length of Pluto's orbit.* *In order to complete a single revolution around the Sun, Pluto embarks on a staggering journey spanning over 30 billion kilometers!* *By comparison, Earth's orbit measures a mere 900 million kilometers**, making it approximately 40 times smaller in scale.* *Also, Pluto's distant location from the Sun causes it to move at a slower pace**. The gravitational pull it experiences is considerably weaker, contributing to its leisurely movement.* *Pluto maintains an average speed of around 16,000 km/h,* *while Earth soars at approximately 107,000 km/h, making it over 6 times faster in its orbital journey.* *Interestingly, the discovery of Pluto came relatively late.** It wasn't until 1930, a remarkable 93 years ago, that humanity first encountered this celestial wanderer. Its small size and vast distance from Earth made its detection a challenging endeavor.* *Considering that Pluto's orbital period spans 248 Earth years, it will not revisit its original position at the time of its discovery for at least another 155 years. Oh yeah* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iyer123" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. 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