Dear all
 For all those who wrote personally and directly as one shows the society
the good behaviour and to the one who indirectly indicted me Thanks a lot.
 Wrt Mr Sekar, as long as the content rebutted or reviewed or deferred by,
are taken and consumed normally, I do not and did not write anytime,
abusing any one. Never I did, including Gopalakrishnan though he will not
be honest enough to admit ; maybe Mr Sekar whose write up was never
appended with any, stupid etc, also did the same way in the middle, for the
best known reason of him only. When in Q and A and outside,  what write Mr
G or N or L has the right to address me as :EX IRS" EX groovy insertions.
service morality, etc? Who started that pelting stones/ Sekar must
consciously answer. Then who are they to talk about English ,grammar etc
etc; about Tamils etc etc?  I never called Mr G as ex agm Ex ITS etc or his
English or that of N and L as butler etc as FIRST. Including Mr Sekar, does
anyone else write like why your English is, why IRS etc? When you bowl a
leg spin I shall impart a googly only.
       While writing your Q and A if you just stop without,comments like; 1
there some who do not like this or that; 2 there are some people thinking
sarvajna peetam  3  some one in this group who has no knowledge of subject
language, abusers in Tamil etc? If you throw stones, you receive back
stupids like 100 times. Mr Sekar's defence "Also let not anyone claim that
he is innocent, he IS not."  is a mischievous REMARKS AS G ETC DO IT. If i
can take you back without deep disclosures which I never do, -you were
writing quotes; and as (i have my view many treasures are here , in this
land, why should we adopt the west) I had other views from here which
irritated you; and some words were also written by you and then the
equations changed; that is your propriety; but as far as I am concerned, i
never attributed any adjectives to you a you never did. That is my
property. Give respect and take respect. So your quote above lacks
convictions. I am not a running away type. I throw back what missile you
send. It is not wrt yours only; many contents , written by so many are also
added with my views based on some evidence, to be sifted and taken None
else are adding any adjectives. Then have you ever noticed the lacuna and
under which side  3direct and 3 indirect? Thank you Mr Sekar. What we sow
so we reap K R IRS  26 12 23

On Tue, 26 Dec 2023 at 14:18, Narayanaswamy Sekar <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: 'N Sekar' via iyer123 <[email protected]>
> Date: Tue, Dec 26, 2023, 2:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [iyer123] Re: [KeralaIyers] Envious nature
> To: <[email protected]>, Rama <[email protected]>, Rangarajan
> T.N.C. <[email protected]>, Chittanandam V. R. <
> [email protected]>, Mathangi K. Kumar <[email protected]>,
> Kerala Iyer <[email protected]>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> I have written earlier also but did not want to harp on that point again
> and again lest I would become the target.
>
>  I hope to be understood in the spirit in which this is written and hope
> not to be subjected to any verbal onslaught - erudite, scholarly or
> otherwise - in whatever language.
>
> My earlier request still stands which I repeat now:
>
> If at all you have to use toxic words, IF AT ALL,  pl go ahead BUT please
> stop, please, please for Heaven's sake, STOP targeting someone's  mother -
> she is not responsible for any real, imagined, perceived mistake , error or
> indecent or improper behaviour of any contributor.
>
> So is calling someone " Bastard".  Let us remember we all have our mothers
> before we write anything abusive about any other woman, especially when
> that person is not a party to these disgusting, deplorable, detestable and
> downright condemnable exchanges.
>
> Our religion teaches us to look to any woman, other than our wives, as our
> mother and let us remember that before we abuse any mother. While doing so,
> we in fact denigrate our own mothers.
>
> The language used in some correspondences does not behove of any decent,
> cultured person, leave alone educated ones. This charade is going on for a
> long time and is testing everybody's patience. Let us cease and desist from
> using vulgar, demeaning, indecent, toxic language.
>
> This is applicable to all the languages used - English, Tamizh, Malayalam
> and to ALL involved. Let not any one person claim any moral high ground.
> Nobody, repeat NOBODY involved in the exchanges comes out smelling roses.
>
> Also let not anyone claim that he is innocent, he IS not.
>
> If any answer in the Q & A is incorrect, then whoever wants to correct it,
> correct it BUT NOT call the question or the reply stupid,  senseless etc.
>
> Each has a different opinion and it is just that- an opinion.
>
> I don't think God has appointed anybody as His Sole Agent to call anybody
> else names.
>
> Hope better sense will prevail.
>
> N Sekar
>
>
>
>
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> On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 1:29 PM, Rama
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> What is required is NOT the tutorials in any language but in general
> behavior in a Group forum. The use of abusive languages has reached beyond
> limits and boundaries.
> The so-called elderly and revered gentleman ( as adorned by a member)
> throws out abuses at his whims and fancies, even disrespecting Mothers in
> the process. What is the use of possessing "wealth of Knowledge" ?
> One gentleman "swears" by God but subsequently uses filthiest language
> thus displaying an alarming lack of social conscience.
> I have not known any of these gentlemen personally but only through this
> social media of Iyer group to which I am a member since last 2 decades. I
> have never come across such abusive languages which has now become a recent
> phenomena too often discrediting themselves by engaging in character
> assassination.
> In all the exchanges I have observed that one particular gentleman (Sh
> Rajaram) is targeted.  He  too posses a wealth of knowledge and his immense
> contribution in variety of subjects is to be appreciated. Indeed he  has
> good command of  languages and writing skills in  English ,Tamil, Sanskrit
> and Hindi.  Many a times I have seen,  he has translated verses for easy
> understanding.  Of course there may be some default errors that goes
> unnoticed while typing in the electronic media after all it is human
> I do agree that he also retaliates with equal force but he is not a saint
> or Mahatma to be at the receiving  end all times.
>
> While writing the above, i do not  mean any offence to anybody. It is all
> in good spirits. Let us have a harmonious relationship with each in this
> group. Let us respect each other for their well being.
> Cheers
> Rama
>
>
> On Tue, 26 Dec 2023 at 10:51, 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Yes sir,
>
>  Many of us will be benefited if you conduct tutorial on English leaving
> responding to a  never correct, never admit arguing  and calling others
> having bogus position member in the group.
>
> Gopalakrishnan
>
> On Tuesday, 26 December, 2023 at 10:34:43 am IST, Laxminarayan Sarma <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> *Most Respected Narayanaswamy Anna*
>
> *A humble prayer to your goodself *
>
> *Apart from sharing your infinite knowledge and with us, can you kindly do
> us another favour?*
>
> *Would it be too much if i request you to kindly conduct  tutorials for
> basic English language skills to enable us not only to improve our language
> skills but also equip us with the ability to make sense of the gibberish
> that passes off as "learned responses" in language  stranger than the
> Martian lingo?  *
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 25 Dec, 2023, 7:11 pm Narayanaswamy Iyer, <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Dear folks
>
> He is here again !
>
> Unlearned, unschooled, uneducated nonentity K Rajaram IRS 25 12 23 discharging
> another truckload of obscene horse-shit and male bovine excreta in his
> drain-gutter-sewer broken English.
>
> And screaming and shooting his head off with his habitual
> incomprehensible, ungrammatical, incorrect nonsense.
>
> "*SINDU MUDITHAL*, for example, is neither Sanskrit nor Thamizh.  It is a
> miscegenated (bastard) word which tries to unite illegitimately the
> Sanskrit word for the Indus River with the Thamizh word for "knotting" or
> "ending".
>
> Just one more instance of the vagrant street-gangster-rowdy's
> non-knowledge of our Indian classical and our modern living languages.
>
> The cement-brained stone-skulled perpetual idiot talks about something
> non-existent and concocted by his incurable insanity and senility.:-
>
> "*I challenged because of your nudgetry."*
>
> Further proof that the castrated unmitigated permanent idiot has lost his
> nuts.
>
> "*You write nonsensical observations of my post , English etc only as a
> ROAD THUG."*
>
> Pot calling the kettle black?  Vagrant unlearned unschooled uneducated
> street-fighter labelling someone else as a "road thug", when it is itself
> scouring the dark unlitback-lanes and side-streets of Red Dogtown hunting
> for potential clients for its confessed professional sex worker mother?
>
> *"**I care two hoots*.
>
> The mousing owl hiding in the recesses of a ruined tower identifying
> itself non pareil?
>
> "*T**he corrupt minds wag their tails*.  * I cannot help it.*"
>
> Self-confessed NAYUNDA MAVEN revealing his ancestry and his  canine
> cement-filled mind?
>
> "*Others have obligations; I do not have anything to fear*."
>
> He forgets his obligations not to lie but to tell the truth.  Not to
> defame others.  Not to use filthy words.  Not to misread, not to
> misunderstand, not to mis-translate, not to mis-publish extracts from our
> vedams, our puraanams and other scriptures.
>
> He has to fear being stipped of his pretensions and having his nonsense
> exposed to public gaze, and to be proved an unmitigated stupid fool again
> and again
>
> "*Every good question against the vedic structures were answered in
> upanishads, Puranas and other texts, by Rishis.*
>
> The structure of r'g-vedam is such that it is full of holes like a Swiss
> cheese.  And these holes are stuffed with verses stolen from the
> yajur-vedam.  Including the opening and concluding verses.
>
> Which upanishad, puranam and other text, by rishis explains why this is so?
>
> S Narayanaswamy Iyer
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 4:48 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Mr Gopala krishnan
>         In sanskrit and many languages they say: SINDU MUDITHAL; i
> APPRECIATE EVERY ONE; i WRITE ON EVERYONE'S AIRING MY VIEWS; SO I HAVE
> NOTHING TO ENVY ABOUT ANYONE; I WRITE ALWAYS --ALL SHOULD WRITE. Then where
> is the new theory of yours? You are writing good about some general topics;
> rarely under Q and A at times you write good; and I had given my
> appreciations; but you do not know at 89 to move good with people or write
> perfect for your age; you are carried away by misconceptions as your friend
> Narayanasamy and another; I challenged because of your nudgetry, 1 you
> Gopalakrishnan till date -did not write that I am wrong, by evidentiary
> establishment, because, when you turn the pages, the truth is laughing at
> you!!;  hence out of great frustrations, you write nonsensical observations
> of my post , English etc only as a ROAD THUG. See when you present one, you
> get back ten. Learn to behave, write, rebut strongly as I do. It is the
> same position with Narayansamy who cannot do anything better; so neti and
> adverse marks blended with abuses tying in my family whom he did not know
> and incurring tonnes of sin. I care two hoots because I AM CLEAR IN MY
> MIND.  Honesty is not frightened but the corrupt minds wag their tails. I
> cannot help it. Why even few good people were also enticed by  pressure
> from the community and other fore-seen reasons. Tan nenrivadhu poyyarkka
> poythain than nenje thannaich chudum; hence those side tracks will come
> back. But you three cannot be redeemed at all. When many are running away
> from you three, I am not afraid of you three at all, why?  Others have
> obligations; I do not have anything to fear. Now your sindu with Bala Iyer,
> I wrote that I will meet his view also, in spite of the right question he
> raised; read it again. So you 3 have no knowledge of matter (as you said
> GAYA srardham,  is end of all sradham which you are still evading; you do
> such things often; evading ; ) ; you 3 who cannot do anything better ,
> feels hitting at , which is never ever a loss to me, because , stupids are
> not forces to reckon with. Bala iyer's question is relevant; even I had
> asked such questions in these forums, which is not yet answered by any one.
> But every good question against the vedic structures were answered in
> upanishads, Puranas and other texts, by Rishis; so one shall not question
> Vedas  is also right as well as right questions must be clarified, if
> known; so what Mr Bala Iyer raised waas NETI or your type of nagations; how
> by adopting gotra can be changed is relevant question; and i said I will
> write shortly; content to content is not like yours Gopala. So forget the
> sindu mudithal and live righteously; whatever you 3 do nothing can be done
> against the dharma. Thank you And as long as you raise your funny flag I
> shall put it down. K Rajaram IRS 25 12 23
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: *'gopala krishnan' via KeralaIyers* <[email protected]>
> Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2023 at 12:44
> Subject: [KeralaIyers] Envious nature
> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>, Iyer <
> [email protected]>, Kerala Iyer <[email protected]>,
> Patty Thatha <[email protected]>
>
>
> Respected sir,
>
> You have revealed. Mr Rajaram is envious- I have also observed. Otherwise
> this much of negations must not have come from him. He is not able to
> tolerate more qualified criticize him. It is also obvious from his
> responses with Bala N iyer.
>
> Gopalakrishnan
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