Dear YMji I thought in another angle and started but quite busy so I could
not send it May be later Thank you And the defining access theism I liked
KR IRS

On Tue, 26 Dec 2023 at 17:27, Yeddanapudi Markandeyulu <
[email protected]> wrote:

> I am not a genius.But I have to be satisfied with my capacity.Using it I
> write my own perceptions.Rarely I get response,I usually get response from
> Sri Rajaram.
> But none even appear to notice.Today I wrote my own idea about the 'Role
> of Theism'.No response from anyone.Afterall one could have responded to it
> with one's own learning,about which there must be great perceptions in many.
> But this unpleasant war continues.I of course do not read most.Strange,own
> perceptions die everyday without response,but still I start my morning with
> a fresh morning write up,eagerly waiting for the continuation and expansion
> of the thought a futile earning.
> YM
>
> On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 5:10 PM 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Dear Mr Sekar,
>>
>> As a group member, not able to tolerate any more the exchanges between
>> members Mr Rajaram, Sri Nrayanaswamy, Mr LN Sharma and myself,
>>
>> Your observations are 95% correct.I agree."NOBODY involved in the
>> exchanges comes out smelling roses"."Also let not anyone claim that he is
>> innocent, he IS not".
>>
>> I put it at 95% because my involvement is limited to *language
>> correction and  oppose to allegations*.
>> *I swear I have not used any abusing words at any member in any
>> language.  I am ready to take excuse if any member point out that I have
>> used abusing words in any language *
>>
>> Gopalakrishnan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, 26 December, 2023 at 02:19:02 pm IST, Narayanaswamy Sekar <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> From: *'N Sekar' via iyer123* <[email protected]>
>> Date: Tue, Dec 26, 2023, 2:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: [iyer123] Re: [KeralaIyers] Envious nature
>> To: <[email protected]>, Rama <[email protected]>, Rangarajan
>> T.N.C. <[email protected]>, Chittanandam V. R. <
>> [email protected]>, Mathangi K. Kumar <[email protected]>,
>> Kerala Iyer <[email protected]>
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> I have written earlier also but did not want to harp on that point again
>> and again lest I would become the target.
>>
>>  I hope to be understood in the spirit in which this is written and hope
>> not to be subjected to any verbal onslaught - erudite, scholarly or
>> otherwise - in whatever language.
>>
>> My earlier request still stands which I repeat now:
>>
>> If at all you have to use toxic words, IF AT ALL,  pl go ahead BUT please
>> stop, please, please for Heaven's sake, STOP targeting someone's  mother -
>> she is not responsible for any real, imagined, perceived mistake , error or
>> indecent or improper behaviour of any contributor.
>>
>> So is calling someone " Bastard".  Let us remember we all have our
>> mothers before we write anything abusive about any other woman, especially
>> when that person is not a party to these disgusting, deplorable, detestable
>> and downright condemnable exchanges.
>>
>> Our religion teaches us to look to any woman, other than our wives, as
>> our mother and let us remember that before we abuse any mother. While doing
>> so, we in fact denigrate our own mothers.
>>
>> The language used in some correspondences does not behove of any decent,
>> cultured person, leave alone educated ones. This charade is going on for a
>> long time and is testing everybody's patience. Let us cease and desist from
>> using vulgar, demeaning, indecent, toxic language.
>>
>> This is applicable to all the languages used - English, Tamizh, Malayalam
>> and to ALL involved. Let not any one person claim any moral high ground.
>> Nobody, repeat NOBODY involved in the exchanges comes out smelling roses.
>>
>> Also let not anyone claim that he is innocent, he IS not.
>>
>> If any answer in the Q & A is incorrect, then whoever wants to correct
>> it, correct it BUT NOT call the question or the reply stupid,  senseless
>> etc.
>>
>> Each has a different opinion and it is just that- an opinion.
>>
>> I don't think God has appointed anybody as His Sole Agent to call anybody
>> else names.
>>
>> Hope better sense will prevail.
>>
>> N Sekar
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 1:29 PM, Rama
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> What is required is NOT the tutorials in any language but in general
>> behavior in a Group forum. The use of abusive languages has reached beyond
>> limits and boundaries.
>> The so-called elderly and revered gentleman ( as adorned by a member)
>> throws out abuses at his whims and fancies, even disrespecting Mothers in
>> the process. What is the use of possessing "wealth of Knowledge" ?
>> One gentleman "swears" by God but subsequently uses filthiest language
>> thus displaying an alarming lack of social conscience.
>> I have not known any of these gentlemen personally but only through this
>> social media of Iyer group to which I am a member since last 2 decades. I
>> have never come across such abusive languages which has now become a recent
>> phenomena too often discrediting themselves by engaging in character
>> assassination.
>> In all the exchanges I have observed that one particular gentleman (Sh
>> Rajaram) is targeted.  He  too posses a wealth of knowledge and his immense
>> contribution in variety of subjects is to be appreciated. Indeed he  has
>> good command of  languages and writing skills in  English ,Tamil, Sanskrit
>> and Hindi.  Many a times I have seen,  he has translated verses for easy
>> understanding.  Of course there may be some default errors that goes
>> unnoticed while typing in the electronic media after all it is human
>> I do agree that he also retaliates with equal force but he is not a saint
>> or Mahatma to be at the receiving  end all times.
>>
>> While writing the above, i do not  mean any offence to anybody. It is all
>> in good spirits. Let us have a harmonious relationship with each in this
>> group. Let us respect each other for their well being.
>> Cheers
>> Rama
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 26 Dec 2023 at 10:51, 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Yes sir,
>>
>>  Many of us will be benefited if you conduct tutorial on English leaving
>> responding to a  never correct, never admit arguing  and calling others
>> having bogus position member in the group.
>>
>> Gopalakrishnan
>>
>> On Tuesday, 26 December, 2023 at 10:34:43 am IST, Laxminarayan Sarma <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> *Most Respected Narayanaswamy Anna*
>>
>> *A humble prayer to your goodself *
>>
>> *Apart from sharing your infinite knowledge and with us, can you kindly
>> do us another favour?*
>>
>> *Would it be too much if i request you to kindly conduct  tutorials for
>> basic English language skills to enable us not only to improve our language
>> skills but also equip us with the ability to make sense of the gibberish
>> that passes off as "learned responses" in language  stranger than the
>> Martian lingo?  *
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 25 Dec, 2023, 7:11 pm Narayanaswamy Iyer, <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear folks
>>
>> He is here again !
>>
>> Unlearned, unschooled, uneducated nonentity K Rajaram IRS 25 12 23 
>> discharging
>> another truckload of obscene horse-shit and male bovine excreta in his
>> drain-gutter-sewer broken English.
>>
>> And screaming and shooting his head off with his habitual
>> incomprehensible, ungrammatical, incorrect nonsense.
>>
>> "*SINDU MUDITHAL*, for example, is neither Sanskrit nor Thamizh.  It is
>> a miscegenated (bastard) word which tries to unite illegitimately the
>> Sanskrit word for the Indus River with the Thamizh word for "knotting" or
>> "ending".
>>
>> Just one more instance of the vagrant street-gangster-rowdy's
>> non-knowledge of our Indian classical and our modern living languages.
>>
>> The cement-brained stone-skulled perpetual idiot talks about something
>> non-existent and concocted by his incurable insanity and senility.:-
>>
>> "*I challenged because of your nudgetry."*
>>
>> Further proof that the castrated unmitigated permanent idiot has lost his
>> nuts.
>>
>> "*You write nonsensical observations of my post , English etc only as a
>> ROAD THUG."*
>>
>> Pot calling the kettle black?  Vagrant unlearned unschooled uneducated
>> street-fighter labelling someone else as a "road thug", when it is itself
>> scouring the dark unlitback-lanes and side-streets of Red Dogtown hunting
>> for potential clients for its confessed professional sex worker mother?
>>
>> *"**I care two hoots*.
>>
>> The mousing owl hiding in the recesses of a ruined tower identifying
>> itself non pareil?
>>
>> "*T**he corrupt minds wag their tails*.  * I cannot help it.*"
>>
>> Self-confessed NAYUNDA MAVEN revealing his ancestry and his  canine
>> cement-filled mind?
>>
>> "*Others have obligations; I do not have anything to fear*."
>>
>> He forgets his obligations not to lie but to tell the truth.  Not to
>> defame others.  Not to use filthy words.  Not to misread, not to
>> misunderstand, not to mis-translate, not to mis-publish extracts from our
>> vedams, our puraanams and other scriptures.
>>
>> He has to fear being stipped of his pretensions and having his nonsense
>> exposed to public gaze, and to be proved an unmitigated stupid fool again
>> and again
>>
>> "*Every good question against the vedic structures were answered in
>> upanishads, Puranas and other texts, by Rishis.*
>>
>> The structure of r'g-vedam is such that it is full of holes like a Swiss
>> cheese.  And these holes are stuffed with verses stolen from the
>> yajur-vedam.  Including the opening and concluding verses.
>>
>> Which upanishad, puranam and other text, by rishis explains why this is
>> so?
>>
>> S Narayanaswamy Iyer
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 4:48 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Mr Gopala krishnan
>>         In sanskrit and many languages they say: SINDU MUDITHAL; i
>> APPRECIATE EVERY ONE; i WRITE ON EVERYONE'S AIRING MY VIEWS; SO I HAVE
>> NOTHING TO ENVY ABOUT ANYONE; I WRITE ALWAYS --ALL SHOULD WRITE. Then where
>> is the new theory of yours? You are writing good about some general topics;
>> rarely under Q and A at times you write good; and I had given my
>> appreciations; but you do not know at 89 to move good with people or write
>> perfect for your age; you are carried away by misconceptions as your friend
>> Narayanasamy and another; I challenged because of your nudgetry, 1 you
>> Gopalakrishnan till date -did not write that I am wrong, by evidentiary
>> establishment, because, when you turn the pages, the truth is laughing at
>> you!!;  hence out of great frustrations, you write nonsensical observations
>> of my post , English etc only as a ROAD THUG. See when you present one, you
>> get back ten. Learn to behave, write, rebut strongly as I do. It is the
>> same position with Narayansamy who cannot do anything better; so neti and
>> adverse marks blended with abuses tying in my family whom he did not know
>> and incurring tonnes of sin. I care two hoots because I AM CLEAR IN MY
>> MIND.  Honesty is not frightened but the corrupt minds wag their tails. I
>> cannot help it. Why even few good people were also enticed by  pressure
>> from the community and other fore-seen reasons. Tan nenrivadhu poyyarkka
>> poythain than nenje thannaich chudum; hence those side tracks will come
>> back. But you three cannot be redeemed at all. When many are running away
>> from you three, I am not afraid of you three at all, why?  Others have
>> obligations; I do not have anything to fear. Now your sindu with Bala Iyer,
>> I wrote that I will meet his view also, in spite of the right question he
>> raised; read it again. So you 3 have no knowledge of matter (as you said
>> GAYA srardham,  is end of all sradham which you are still evading; you do
>> such things often; evading ; ) ; you 3 who cannot do anything better ,
>> feels hitting at , which is never ever a loss to me, because , stupids are
>> not forces to reckon with. Bala iyer's question is relevant; even I had
>> asked such questions in these forums, which is not yet answered by any one.
>> But every good question against the vedic structures were answered in
>> upanishads, Puranas and other texts, by Rishis; so one shall not question
>> Vedas  is also right as well as right questions must be clarified, if
>> known; so what Mr Bala Iyer raised waas NETI or your type of nagations; how
>> by adopting gotra can be changed is relevant question; and i said I will
>> write shortly; content to content is not like yours Gopala. So forget the
>> sindu mudithal and live righteously; whatever you 3 do nothing can be done
>> against the dharma. Thank you And as long as you raise your funny flag I
>> shall put it down. K Rajaram IRS 25 12 23
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> From: *'gopala krishnan' via KeralaIyers* <[email protected]>
>> Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2023 at 12:44
>> Subject: [KeralaIyers] Envious nature
>> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>, Iyer <
>> [email protected]>, Kerala Iyer <[email protected]>,
>> Patty Thatha <[email protected]>
>>
>>
>> Respected sir,
>>
>> You have revealed. Mr Rajaram is envious- I have also observed. Otherwise
>> this much of negations must not have come from him. He is not able to
>> tolerate more qualified criticize him. It is also obvious from his
>> responses with Bala N iyer.
>>
>> Gopalakrishnan
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