I know you are a bit lacking in vision but also in reading and understanding; I had reproduced what is written by Ganguly in the Mahabharata; there all dead were seen as arising out of the river because of Vyasa, by all the citizens, and everyone inclusing ladies seated secluded. Do not talk like Rahul Gandhi Thank You KR
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2023 at 18:38 Subject: [iyer123] Re: [KeralaIyers] Fwd: CULTURAL QA 12-2023-31 To: iyer <[email protected]>, gopala krishnan <[email protected]> Cc: Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> Dear folks "*Q1: Did Gandhari see her sons any time during her lifetime?*" Sri Gopalakrishna is assertively positive, while KR ex-IRS says it is "controversial" and quotes:- "*The ladies of the royal household sat with Gandhari in a secluded spot."* On balance, I am inclined to believe that Sri Gopalakrishna is correct, particularly since he mentions the *Suyodhanan* incident, about which I have also heard. S Narayanaswamy Iyer On Sun, Dec 31, 2023 at 5:21 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > CULTURAL QA 12202331 > > Q1 Did Gandhari see her sons any time during her lifetime? > > KR It is a controversial topic as “Putra Darsana block appeared to > be an insertion. However, it is not Gandhari alone but even citizens and > all others in the forest saw the spectrum: "Vaisampayana said, 'When night > came, all those persons, having finished their evening rites, approached > Vyasa. Dhritarashtra of righteous soul, with purified body and with mind > solely directed towards it, sat there with the Pandavas and the Rishis in > his company. The ladies of the royal household sat with Gandhari in a > secluded spot. All the citizens and the inhabitants of the provinces > ranged according to their years. Then the great ascetic, Vyasa, of mighty > energy, bathing in the sacred waters of the Bhagirathi, summoned all the > deceased warriors, viz., those that had fought on the side of the Pandavas, > those that had fought for the Kauravas, including highly blessed kings > belonging to diverse realms. At this, O Janamejaya, a deafening uproar was > heard to arise from within the waters, resembling that which had formerly > been heard of the forces of the Kurus and the Pandavas. KR IRS 311223 > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: 'gopala krishnan' via Thatha_Patty <[email protected]> > Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2023 at 11:49 > Subject: CULTURAL QA 12-2023-31 > To: Patty Thatha <[email protected]>, Iyer < > [email protected]>, Kerala Iyer <[email protected]> > > > CULTURAL QA 12-2023-31 > > > Dear friends, > > I wish you all a happy and prosperous new year 2024 > > All the below QA are from Quora DIGEST to me on 31-12-2023. > > Selected quora answers generally interesting are included .Still they need > not be 100% correct answers. > > Compiled and posted by R. Gopala Krishnan, 80, on 31-12-2023. > > Q1 Did Gandhari see her sons any time during her lifetime? > > A1 Bhanu Kiran, Exploring ancient texts of Sanatana Dharma21h > > Once in her lifetime, Gandhari experienced a special moment when she could > see all her sons together. This happened 15 years after the Mahabharata > war. > > Sage Vedavyasa, while bathing in the sacred Bhagirathi river, invoked the > spirits of the departed warriors, including the hundred Kouravas. He gave > divine eyesight to Gandhari and her husband Dhritarashtra, letting them see > their children. The couple spent the whole night talking happily with > their children. > > There were Karna and Duryodhana, and the mighty car-warrior Sakuni, and > the other children, endued with great strength, of Dhritarashtra, headed by > Dussasana. There were the son of Jarasandha, and Bhagadatta, and Jalasandha > of great energy, and Bhurisravas, and Sala, and Salya, and Vrishasena with > his younger brother. There were prince Lakshmana (the son of Duryodhana), > and the son of Dhrishtadyumna, and all the children of Sikhandin, and > Dhrishtaketu, with his younger brother. There were Achala and Vrishaka, and > the Rakshasa Alayudha, and Valhika, and Somadatta, and king Chekitana. > These and many others, who for their number cannot be conveniently named, > appeared on that occasion. All of them rose from the waters of the > Bhagirathi, with resplendent bodies. Those kings appeared, each clad in > that dress and equip with that standard and that vehicle which he had while > fighting on the field. All of them were now robed in celestial vestments > and all had brilliant ear-rings. They were free from all animosity and > pride, and divested of wrath and jealousy. Gandharvas sang their praises, > and bards waited on them, chanting their deeds. Robed in celestial > vestments and wearing celestial garlands, each of them was waited upon by > bands of Apsaras. At that time, through the puissance of his penances, the > great ascetic, the son of Satyavati, gratified with Dhritarashtra, gave him > celestial vision. Endued with celestial knowledge and strength, Gandhari of > great fame saw all her children as also all that had been slain in battle. > > Source: Mahabharata translation by KMG (Asramavasika Parva: Putradarsana > Parva: Section XXXII) > > My note- Elsewhere I read once Gandhari asked Suyodhana to come after bath > and appear naked so that she could transfer her thapobalam to her opening > her eyes. However as guided by ,Narada, he wore cloth in the waist area > and appeared. Hence he had less strength in waist area. > > Q2 What doesn't impress you? > > A2 Vijaya Lakshmi, Retired Finance manager at Coal India Limited > (A Maharatna Company)Updated 5y > > During my service period, there were two young men. Both were jovial, > always cracking jokes. > > People would flock around them wherever they were. Let us name them as Ram > and Shyam. > > Their typical style of talking used to be like this: > > Shyam: (calling a passer by) “Hey brother, come here. I want to tell you > how to earn a few lakh (one million=ten lakhs) rupees, very quickly.” > > The person would walk to Shyam’s seat.The person: (smiling) “OK tell me > the secret.” > > Shyam: “If you take your slippers to the museum and tell them that they > belong to Indus Valley Civilization period, they will believe you and pay > you a hefty amount.” > > > > People sitting around Shyam would burst into laughter while the smile on > the person wearing old slippers vanished.Shyam: “No offence brother, it > is just a joke!” > > Ram: “Today our boss compared me with a donkey.” > > People around him: “Then what did you say?” > > Ram: “I said, ‘Sir please don’t insult the donkey.’” > > People sitting around Ram burst into laughter. > > Ram: (addressing a person who was sitting there with a sad face) “Hey > brother, why don’t you teach me letter drafting? You are so good at it.” > > The sadness from the person’s face immediately vanished!Yes, Shyam laughs > at others while Ram laughs with others.People who laugh at others do not > impress me. > > Q3 What is a disturbing fact most people are unaware of? > > A3 Aaman Khan,Lives in Kolkata, West Bengal, India > (2003–present)Updated 3y > > Look at the below image:What did you see? > > Must be some poor family from some distant part of Africa, right? > > Wrong.This is the Siddi tribe[1], who are African descendents residing in > a small area, near a district named Karwar, in Karnataka, India. > > Yes, they are Indians. And they speak Indian languages as fluently as you > and I. > > This is Juje Jackie Harnodkar Siddi, who works for the central government, > in Mumbai. > > The amount of struggle and racism, he and his tribe faces everyday, is > something I feel is supposed to be shared. > > This tribe came into limelight in 1987, when the government thought they > can use these people. Since, many Africans are genetically good in > athelete, they decided to set up “The Special India Games” particularly for > this tribe. So that they get proper training and could bag the country a > few medals. > > This tribe showed a lot of enthusiasm and patriotism in this project. They > really wanted to prove their love for their country, India. Both the > genders took part in it. > > And many performed with their heart, in the state levels and national > levels.Like, Kamala Babu Siddi, a 15 year old, won the National record in > Junior Girls Penthathlon. > > Did you read that? But how many of us even know she exists even after her > retirement? > > Everything was going good and the program was running well but here comes > the sad part: > > And they again lost their identity, they thought they were slowly gaining. > > But they still haven't lost hope. They are still, practising, in a hope > that they'll represent their country someday, and will actually win. > > I never really write an answer with this many images, but then it was > needed. This tribe really needs their proper rights, and should get equal > treatment the way you and I are treated. > > My note- new information to me. > > Q4 How do vultures scare cheetahs off their prey? > > A4 K. Fletcher, Master's Degree in Psychology, Harvard University > (Graduated 2011)15h > > Vultures have been known to overwhelm and overpower cheetahs off a kill. > Let's examine how and when this is possible. > > Above: massive audience of vultures waiting for cheetahs to finish > > Vultures are huge. (30lbs!) They never come alone. When fifty plus > vultures come two things happen: the (typically lone or new mother) cheetah > gets exceedingly nervous, as they draw substantial attention from bigger > predators. This elevates their stress response, creating a ticking clock > of sorts for cheetah. Their intolerance for the attention grows, as does > their nervousness and the vultures recognize it, become emboldened and mob > the cat… who leaves. > > However, this almost always/only occurs after the cheetah has long gotten > its fill. The vultures sense the cheetah is nearly done and this > emboldens them. > > The cheetah leaves. As seen in the video below, cheetah do chase off > vultures initially and likely would continue if they weren't already > massively full. (As evidenced by its bulging stomach as it leaves) > > Q5 What are some strange psychological facts about dreams? > > Serraa Khaphají,Sat > > Let’s talk… > > Recurring Nightmares: People experience recurring nightmares. These > dreams often circle common themes, such as being chased or falling. The > repetition of these nightmares may point to unresolved fears or anxieties > that the dreamer is grappling with on a subconscious level. > > Lucid Dreaming Exploration: You become aware that you're dreaming and can > sometimes control the dream, offering an empowering psychological > experience. People who practice lucid dreaming may deliberately explore > their subconscious, confront fears, or even problem-solve. > > Personal Significance: Dreams often contain symbols and analogies that > hold personal significance to the dreamer. For example, a recurring dream > of losing one's teeth might reflect feelings of powerlessness or > insecurity. Understanding the individual meaning behind dream symbols can > provide value to one's emotions. > > Dreams Reflecting Emotional States: The emotional intensity of dreams can > mirror the dreamer's waking emotional state. Dreams may amplify and express > emotions that are present but not fully acknowledged in daily life. Paying > attention to the emotional tone of dreams can offer clues to underlying > psychological states. > > Dreams as Problem-Solving Tools: Some individuals find that their dreams > provide creative solutions to real-life problems. 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