The senility had increased to a level where the kid Narayanasamy in
delirium, writes abusive language o Vyasa too; while he cannot see his
back, his life and evil ridden in nature he cannot understand or estimate,
his anger and failure and lack of knowledge, drives him to the end of wit;
I wrote only from Mahabharatham; and says ghost show and live show as if he
wrote Mahabharatham(? May be he remembers his life?). Anyone who knows
sanskrit may read the original MB vol 15 chap 32 printed below:
The Mahabharata in SanskritBook 15
Chapter 32
1 [वै]
स तैः सह नरव्याघ्रैर भरातृभिर भरतर्षभ
राजा रुचिरपद्माक्षैर आसां चक्रे तदाश्रमे
2 तापसैश च महाभागैर नानादेशसमागतैः
दरष्टुं कुरुपतेः पुत्रान पाण्डवान पृथुवक्षसः
3 ते ऽबरुवञ जञातुम इच्छामः कतमॊ ऽतर युधिष्ठिरः
भिमार्जुन यमाश चैव दरौपदी च यशस्विनी
4 तान आचख्यौ तदा सूतः सर्वान नामाभिनामतः
संजयॊ दरौपदीं चैव सर्वाश चान्याः कुरु सत्रियः
5 य एष जाम्बूनदशुद्ध गौर; तनुर महासिंह इव परवृद्धः
परचण्ड घॊणः पृथु दीर्घनेत्रस; ताम्रायतास्यः कुरुराज एषः
6 अयं पुनर मत्तगजेन्द्र गामी; परतप्तचामीकरशुद्धगौरः
पृथ्व आयतांसः पृथु दीर्घबाहुर; वृकॊदरः पश्यत पश्यतैनम
7 यस तव एष पार्श्वे ऽसय महाधनुष्माञ; शयामॊ युवा वारणयूथपाभः
सिंहॊन्नतांसॊ गजखेल गामी; पद्मायताक्षॊ ऽरजुन एष वीरः
8 कुन्ती समीपे पुरुषॊत्तमौ तु; यमाव इमौ विष्णुमहेन्द्र कल्पौ
मनुष्यलॊके सकले समॊ ऽसति; ययॊर न रूपे न बले न शीले
9 इयं पुनः पद्मदलायताक्षी; मध्यं वयः किं चिद इव सपृशन्ती
नीलॊत्पलाभा पुरदेवतेव; कृष्णा सथिता मूर्तिमतीव लक्ष्मीः
10 अस्यास तु पार्श्वे कनकॊत्तमाभा; यैषा परभा मूर्तिमतीव गौरी
मध्ये सथितैषा भगिनी दविजाग्र्या; चक्रायुधस्याप्रतिमस्य तस्य
11 इयं सवसा राजचमू पतेस तु; परवृद्धनीलॊत्पल दाम वर्णा
पस्पर्ध कृष्णेन नृपः सदा यॊ; वृकॊदरस्यैष परिग्ग्रहॊ ऽगर्यः
12 इयं च राज्ञॊ मगधाधिपस्य; सुता जरासंध इति शरुतस्य
यवीयसॊ माद्रवतीसुतस्य; भार्या मता चम्पकदामगौरी
13 इन्दीवरश्याम तनुः सथिता तु; यैषापरासन्न महीतले च
भार्या मता माद्रवतीसुतस्य; जयेष्ठस्य सेयं कमलायताक्षी
14 इयं तु निष्टप्त सुवर्णगौरी; राज्ञॊ विराटस्य सुता सपुत्रा
भार्याभिमन्यॊर निहतॊ रणे यॊ; दरॊणादिभिस तैर विरथॊ रथस्थैः
15 एतास तु सीमन्त शिरॊरुहा या; शुक्लॊत्तरीया नरराज पत्न्यः
राज्ञॊ ऽसय वृद्धस्य परं शताख्याः; सनुषा विवीरा हतपुत्र नाथाः
16 एता यथामुख्यम उदाहृता वॊ; बराह्मण्य भावाद ऋजु बुद्धिसत्त्वाः
सर्वा भवद्भिः परिपृच्छ्यमाना; नरेन्द्रपत्न्यः सुविशुद्धसत्त्वाः
17 एवं स राजा कुरुवृद्ध वर्यः; समागतस तैर नरदेव पुत्रैः
पप्रच्छ सर्वान कुशलं तदानीं; गतेषु सर्वेष्व अथ तापसेषु
18 यॊधेषु चाप्य आश्रममण्डलं तं; मुक्त्वा निविष्टेषु विमुच्य पत्रम
सत्री वृद्धबाले च सुसंनिविष्टे; यथार्हतः कुशलं पर्यपृच्छत
1 [vai]
sa taiḥ saha naravyāghrair bhrātṛbhir bharatarṣabha
rājā rucirapadmākṣair āsāṃ cakre tadāśrame
2 tāpasaiś ca mahābhāgair nānādeśasamāgataiḥ
draṣṭuṃ kurupateḥ putrān pāṇḍavān pṛthuvakṣasaḥ
3 te 'bruvañ jñātum icchāmaḥ katamo 'tra yudhiṣṭhiraḥ
bhimārjuna yamāś caiva draupadī ca yaśasvinī
4 tān ācakhyau tadā sūtaḥ sarvān nāmābhināmataḥ
saṃjayo draupadīṃ caiva sarvāś cānyāḥ kuru striyaḥ
5 ya eṣa jāmbūnadaśuddha gaura; tanur mahāsiṃha iva pravṛddhaḥ
pracaṇḍa ghoṇaḥ pṛthu dīrghanetras; tāmrāyatāsyaḥ kururāja eṣaḥ
6 ayaṃ punar mattagajendra gāmī; prataptacāmīkaraśuddhagauraḥ
pṛthv āyatāṃsaḥ pṛthu dīrghabāhur; vṛkodaraḥ paśyata paśyatainam
7 yas tv eṣa pārśve 'sya mahādhanuṣmāñ; śyāmo yuvā vāraṇayūthapābhaḥ
siṃhonnatāṃso gajakhela gāmī; padmāyatākṣo 'rjuna eṣa vīraḥ
8 kuntī samīpe puruṣottamau tu; yamāv imau viṣṇumahendra kalpau
manuṣyaloke sakale samo 'sti; yayor na rūpe na bale na śīle
9 iyaṃ punaḥ padmadalāyatākṣī; madhyaṃ vayaḥ kiṃ cid iva spṛśantī
nīlotpalābhā puradevateva; kṛṣṇā sthitā mūrtimatīva lakṣmīḥ
10 asyās tu pārśve kanakottamābhā; yaiṣā prabhā mūrtimatīva gaurī
madhye sthitaiṣā bhaginī dvijāgryā; cakrāyudhasyāpratimasya tasya
11 iyaṃ svasā rājacamū pates tu; pravṛddhanīlotpala dāma varṇā
paspardha kṛṣṇena nṛpaḥ sadā yo; vṛkodarasyaiṣa pariggraho 'gryaḥ
12 iyaṃ ca rājño magadhādhipasya; sutā jarāsaṃdha iti śrutasya
yavīyaso mādravatīsutasya; bhāryā matā campakadāmagaurī
13 indīvaraśyāma tanuḥ sthitā tu; yaiṣāparāsanna mahītale ca
bhāryā matā mādravatīsutasya; jyeṣṭhasya seyaṃ kamalāyatākṣī
14 iyaṃ tu niṣṭapta suvarṇagaurī; rājño virāṭasya sutā saputrā
bhāryābhimanyor nihato raṇe yo; droṇādibhis tair viratho rathasthaiḥ
15 etās tu sīmanta śiroruhā yā; śuklottarīyā nararāja patnyaḥ
rājño 'sya vṛddhasya paraṃ śatākhyāḥ; snuṣā vivīrā hataputra nāthāḥ
16 etā yathāmukhyam udāhṛtā vo; brāhmaṇya bhāvād ṛju buddhisattvāḥ
sarvā bhavadbhiḥ paripṛcchyamānā; narendrapatnyaḥ suviśuddhasattvāḥ
17 evaṃ sa rājā kuruvṛddha varyaḥ; samāgatas tair naradeva putraiḥ
papraccha sarvān kuśalaṃ tadānīṃ; gateṣu sarveṣv atha tāpaseṣu
18 yodheṣu cāpy āśramamaṇḍalaṃ taṃ; muktvā niviṣṭeṣu vimucya patram
strī vṛddhabāle ca susaṃniviṣṭe; yathārhataḥ kuśalaṃ paryapṛcchat
KR IRS 1124
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From: Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2024 at 06:43
Subject: Re: [iyer123] Re: [KeralaIyers] Fwd: CULTURAL QA 12-2023-31
To: iyer <[email protected]>, gopala krishnan <[email protected]>
Cc: Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]>
Dear folks
It is really and truly ignoramus unlearned unschooled uneducated
super-bluffer
KR ex-IRS the habitual liar who is totally lacking in vision but also in
reading and understanding.
The dead "arising out of the river" are ghouls, not ordinary resurrected
living beings in their previous existence.
There is also no credible proof that Vyaasa of Mahabhaaratham fame, born on
a remote river island as son of a fisherman's daughter and illegitimate
child of a wandering aged ascetic of uncertain lineage, (and hence called
black-skinned Krishna Dveepaayana) had divine powers to restore to life
dead men and women.
The puraanams say that, on his mother Durganthi's prompting, Vyaasa the
avowed brahmachaari for life, had sex with dead king Veeryavijayan's widows
Ambika and Ambaalika and with Ambaalika's maid-servant, and produced sons
blind Dritharaashtra, skin-diseased Paandu, and Vidoora.
No one conferred on Vyaasa powers to raise the dead, much less divinity.
S Narayanaswamy Iyer
On Sun, Dec 31, 2023 at 10:45 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
[email protected]> wrote:
> I know you are a bit lacking in vision but also in reading and
> understanding; I had reproduced what is written by Ganguly in the
> Mahabharata; there all dead were seen as arising out of the river because
> of Vyasa, by all the citizens, and everyone inclusing ladies seated
> secluded. Do not talk like Rahul Gandhi Thank You KR
>
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> From: Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]>
> Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2023 at 18:38
> Subject: [iyer123] Re: [KeralaIyers] Fwd: CULTURAL QA 12-2023-31
> To: iyer <[email protected]>, gopala krishnan <[email protected]>
> Cc: Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]>
>
>
>
> Dear folks
>
> "*Q1: Did Gandhari see her sons any time during her lifetime?*"
>
> Sri Gopalakrishna is assertively positive, while KR ex-IRS says it is
> "controversial" and quotes:-
>
> "*The ladies of the royal household sat with Gandhari in a secluded
> spot."*
>
> On balance, I am inclined to believe that Sri Gopalakrishna is correct,
> particularly since he mentions the *Suyodhanan* incident, about which I
> have also heard.
>
> S Narayanaswamy Iyer
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 31, 2023 at 5:21 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> CULTURAL QA 12202331
>>
>> Q1 Did Gandhari see her sons any time during her lifetime?
>>
>> KR It is a controversial topic as “Putra Darsana block appeared
>> to be an insertion. However, it is not Gandhari alone but even citizens and
>> all others in the forest saw the spectrum: "Vaisampayana said, 'When night
>> came, all those persons, having finished their evening rites, approached
>> Vyasa. Dhritarashtra of righteous soul, with purified body and with mind
>> solely directed towards it, sat there with the Pandavas and the Rishis in
>> his company. The ladies of the royal household sat with Gandhari in a
>> secluded spot. All the citizens and the inhabitants of the provinces
>> ranged according to their years. Then the great ascetic, Vyasa, of
>> mighty energy, bathing in the sacred waters of the Bhagirathi, summoned all
>> the deceased warriors, viz., those that had fought on the side of the
>> Pandavas, those that had fought for the Kauravas, including highly blessed
>> kings belonging to diverse realms. At this, O Janamejaya, a deafening
>> uproar was heard to arise from within the waters, resembling that which had
>> formerly been heard of the forces of the Kurus and the Pandavas. KR
>> IRS 311223
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>> From: 'gopala krishnan' via Thatha_Patty <[email protected]>
>> Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2023 at 11:49
>> Subject: CULTURAL QA 12-2023-31
>> To: Patty Thatha <[email protected]>, Iyer <
>> [email protected]>, Kerala Iyer <[email protected]>
>>
>>
>> CULTURAL QA 12-2023-31
>>
>>
>> Dear friends,
>>
>> I wish you all a happy and prosperous new year 2024
>>
>> All the below QA are from Quora DIGEST to me on 31-12-2023.
>>
>> Selected quora answers generally interesting are included .Still they need
>> not be 100% correct answers.
>>
>> Compiled and posted by R. Gopala Krishnan, 80, on 31-12-2023.
>>
>> Q1 Did Gandhari see her sons any time during her lifetime?
>>
>> A1 Bhanu Kiran, Exploring ancient texts of Sanatana Dharma21h
>>
>> Once in her lifetime, Gandhari experienced a special moment when she
>> could see all her sons together. This happened 15 years after the
>> Mahabharata war.
>>
>> Sage Vedavyasa, while bathing in the sacred Bhagirathi river, invoked the
>> spirits of the departed warriors, including the hundred Kouravas. He
>> gave divine eyesight to Gandhari and her husband Dhritarashtra, letting
>> them see their children. The couple spent the whole night talking
>> happily with their children.
>>
>> There were Karna and Duryodhana, and the mighty car-warrior Sakuni, and
>> the other children, endued with great strength, of Dhritarashtra, headed by
>> Dussasana. There were the son of Jarasandha, and Bhagadatta, and Jalasandha
>> of great energy, and Bhurisravas, and Sala, and Salya, and Vrishasena with
>> his younger brother. There were prince Lakshmana (the son of Duryodhana),
>> and the son of Dhrishtadyumna, and all the children of Sikhandin, and
>> Dhrishtaketu, with his younger brother. There were Achala and Vrishaka, and
>> the Rakshasa Alayudha, and Valhika, and Somadatta, and king Chekitana.
>> These and many others, who for their number cannot be conveniently named,
>> appeared on that occasion. All of them rose from the waters of the
>> Bhagirathi, with resplendent bodies. Those kings appeared, each clad in
>> that dress and equip with that standard and that vehicle which he had while
>> fighting on the field. All of them were now robed in celestial vestments
>> and all had brilliant ear-rings. They were free from all animosity and
>> pride, and divested of wrath and jealousy. Gandharvas sang their praises,
>> and bards waited on them, chanting their deeds. Robed in celestial
>> vestments and wearing celestial garlands, each of them was waited upon by
>> bands of Apsaras. At that time, through the puissance of his penances, the
>> great ascetic, the son of Satyavati, gratified with Dhritarashtra, gave him
>> celestial vision. Endued with celestial knowledge and strength, Gandhari of
>> great fame saw all her children as also all that had been slain in battle.
>>
>> Source: Mahabharata translation by KMG (Asramavasika Parva: Putradarsana
>> Parva: Section XXXII)
>>
>> My note- Elsewhere I read once Gandhari asked Suyodhana to come after
>> bath and appear naked so that she could transfer her thapobalam to her
>> opening
>> her eyes. However as guided by ,Narada, he wore cloth in the waist area
>> and appeared. Hence he had less strength in waist area.
>>
>> Q2 What doesn't impress you?
>>
>> A2 Vijaya Lakshmi, Retired Finance manager at Coal India Limited
>> (A Maharatna Company)Updated 5y
>>
>> During my service period, there were two young men. Both were jovial,
>> always cracking jokes.
>>
>> People would flock around them wherever they were. Let us name them as
>> Ram and Shyam.
>>
>> Their typical style of talking used to be like this:
>>
>> Shyam: (calling a passer by) “Hey brother, come here. I want to tell you
>> how to earn a few lakh (one million=ten lakhs) rupees, very quickly.”
>>
>> The person would walk to Shyam’s seat.The person: (smiling) “OK tell me
>> the secret.”
>>
>> Shyam: “If you take your slippers to the museum and tell them that they
>> belong to Indus Valley Civilization period, they will believe you and pay
>> you a hefty amount.”
>>
>>
>>
>> People sitting around Shyam would burst into laughter while the smile on
>> the person wearing old slippers vanished.Shyam: “No offence brother, it
>> is just a joke!”
>>
>> Ram: “Today our boss compared me with a donkey.”
>>
>> People around him: “Then what did you say?”
>>
>> Ram: “I said, ‘Sir please don’t insult the donkey.’”
>>
>> People sitting around Ram burst into laughter.
>>
>> Ram: (addressing a person who was sitting there with a sad face) “Hey
>> brother, why don’t you teach me letter drafting? You are so good at it.”
>>
>> The sadness from the person’s face immediately vanished!Yes, Shyam laughs
>> at others while Ram laughs with others.People who laugh at others do not
>> impress me.
>>
>> Q3 What is a disturbing fact most people are unaware of?
>>
>> A3 Aaman Khan,Lives in Kolkata, West Bengal, India
>> (2003–present)Updated 3y
>>
>> Look at the below image:What did you see?
>>
>> Must be some poor family from some distant part of Africa, right?
>>
>> Wrong.This is the Siddi tribe[1], who are African descendents residing
>> in a small area, near a district named Karwar, in Karnataka, India.
>>
>> Yes, they are Indians. And they speak Indian languages as fluently as you
>> and I.
>>
>> This is Juje Jackie Harnodkar Siddi, who works for the central
>> government, in Mumbai.
>>
>> The amount of struggle and racism, he and his tribe faces everyday, is
>> something I feel is supposed to be shared.
>>
>> This tribe came into limelight in 1987, when the government thought they
>> can use these people. Since, many Africans are genetically good in
>> athelete, they decided to set up “The Special India Games” particularly for
>> this tribe. So that they get proper training and could bag the country a
>> few medals.
>>
>> This tribe showed a lot of enthusiasm and patriotism in this project.
>> They really wanted to prove their love for their country, India. Both the
>> genders took part in it.
>>
>> And many performed with their heart, in the state levels and national
>> levels.Like, Kamala Babu Siddi, a 15 year old, won the National record
>> in Junior Girls Penthathlon.
>>
>> Did you read that? But how many of us even know she exists even after her
>> retirement?
>>
>> Everything was going good and the program was running well but here comes
>> the sad part:
>>
>> And they again lost their identity, they thought they were slowly gaining.
>>
>> But they still haven't lost hope. They are still, practising, in a hope
>> that they'll represent their country someday, and will actually win.
>>
>> I never really write an answer with this many images, but then it was
>> needed. This tribe really needs their proper rights, and should get
>> equal treatment the way you and I are treated.
>>
>> My note- new information to me.
>>
>> Q4 How do vultures scare cheetahs off their prey?
>>
>> A4 K. Fletcher, Master's Degree in Psychology, Harvard
>> University (Graduated 2011)15h
>>
>> Vultures have been known to overwhelm and overpower cheetahs off a kill.
>> Let's examine how and when this is possible.
>>
>> Above: massive audience of vultures waiting for cheetahs to finish
>>
>> Vultures are huge. (30lbs!) They never come alone. When fifty plus
>> vultures come two things happen: the (typically lone or new mother) cheetah
>> gets exceedingly nervous, as they draw substantial attention from bigger
>> predators. This elevates their stress response, creating a ticking clock
>> of sorts for cheetah. Their intolerance for the attention grows, as does
>> their nervousness and the vultures recognize it, become emboldened and mob
>> the cat… who leaves.
>>
>> However, this almost always/only occurs after the cheetah has long gotten
>> its fill. The vultures sense the cheetah is nearly done and this
>> emboldens them.
>>
>> The cheetah leaves. As seen in the video below, cheetah do chase off
>> vultures initially and likely would continue if they weren't already
>> massively full. (As evidenced by its bulging stomach as it leaves)
>>
>> Q5 What are some strange psychological facts about dreams?
>>
>> Serraa Khaphají,Sat
>>
>> Let’s talk…
>>
>> Recurring Nightmares: People experience recurring nightmares. These
>> dreams often circle common themes, such as being chased or falling. The
>> repetition of these nightmares may point to unresolved fears or anxieties
>> that the dreamer is grappling with on a subconscious level.
>>
>> Lucid Dreaming Exploration: You become aware that you're dreaming and
>> can sometimes control the dream, offering an empowering psychological
>> experience. People who practice lucid dreaming may deliberately explore
>> their subconscious, confront fears, or even problem-solve.
>>
>> Personal Significance: Dreams often contain symbols and analogies that
>> hold personal significance to the dreamer. For example, a recurring dream
>> of losing one's teeth might reflect feelings of powerlessness or
>> insecurity. Understanding the individual meaning behind dream symbols can
>> provide value to one's emotions.
>>
>> Dreams Reflecting Emotional States: The emotional intensity of dreams
>> can mirror the dreamer's waking emotional state. Dreams may amplify and
>> express emotions that are present but not fully acknowledged in daily life.
>> Paying
>> attention to the emotional tone of dreams can offer clues to underlying
>> psychological states.
>>
>> Dreams as Problem-Solving Tools: Some individuals find that their dreams
>> provide creative solutions to real-life problems. Whether resolving a
>> work-related issue or navigating a personal challenge, the subconscious
>> mind, through dreams, may offer inventive and unexpected solutions that
>> the conscious mind may not have considered.
>>
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