Thank you
Gopalakrishnan
On Friday, 5 January, 2024 at 06:10:44 pm IST, 'N Sekar' via KeralaIyers
<[email protected]> wrote:
Pl see below my earlier response to Sri G K's Query - I pressed the send
button by mistake.
Sri G K
It does Not mean people praying at any temple will die young. NO, NOT AT ALL.
Liberation means if and when a person dies, whenever that is, (depending on his
Karma or Destiny - 1 day or less or 100 years or more) he or more correctly,
his Soul, will attain Liberation or Salvation - never again it, his soul, will
take births and as a consequence, deaths. It is freed from the cycle of births
and deaths - to merge with the Supreme Being. That's what we should all strive
for, as per Vedanta.
Soul Liberation does not mean also just soul leaving the body - that is dying.
Dying and getting liberated are not the same. A person who dies will be born
again depending on his Karma- as per Hindu beliefs.
But liberation means freedom from birth and death as I said before.
There is a Tamizh saying
If one is born in Tiruvarur one attains salvation- meaning his soul will get
liberated.
If one dies at Kashi the same result.
If one just, just thinks of Tiruvannamalai - the same result.
It does not mean that one can commit any number of atrocities and just by
thinking of Tiruvannamalai he will attain Liberation and so on.
The idea behind these sayings is to explain how sacred these Kshetrams are and
one must be blessed to visit these and other places mentioned.
It also has the effect of effecting a change in a sincere repeat, sincere
devotee's attitude and behaviour towards life and other material things. That
kind of person will become more spiritual in his thoughts and words and deeds.
Ask any query sir - let any person who has knowledge of the subject answer it -
we learn by asking, does not matter whether it is a fwd or original thinking.
I always preface any fwd as Fwd unless it is self explanatory like when I send
u tube links and other such clippings or Quote as Quotes mean they are the
sayings of wise people - in the context of my mails.
Quote in normal usage may denote what someone else said.
N Sekar
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Sent: Fri, Jan 5, 2024 at 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [iyer123] KANCHHEPURAM... Dear
Sri G K
Thanks.
Liberated means - Soul will not take rebirths - it is the end of BIRTH AND
DEATH cycle - No more births and No more deaths - merge with the Supreme.
Like I wrote that if a person dies in Kashi his soul is liberated- Attained
Mukti. Mukti is not Heaven but is the ultimate as I explained in the first
paragraph here. In that sense it is believed that if one visits- just a mere
visit to that sacred city will liberate one's Soul.
I am not sure I understand what do you mean by purified.
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On Fri, Jan 5, 2024 at 5:05 PM, 'gopala krishnan' via
iyer123<[email protected]> wrote: Dear Mr Sekar,
I have read your vivid explanation. My point was Mr V Sridharan posting- mostly
forward "on visiting Kanchipuram, a person's soul is liberated. How a person's
soul can get liberated? Does it means purified?"
Mr Sridharan has not replied. As I understand soul liberation means leaving the
physical body. That means a person praying at any temple may die at the
earliest. I felt better word can be purified. That is all.
Any way if it is a forward Mr V Sridharan need not reply. My point is if it is
a forward, just mark it as forward. From my part I will not ask any query
about forward to the person forwarding. I simply suggest, it could be so. I
have done it
Gopalakrishnan
On Friday, 5 January, 2024 at 01:03:13 pm IST, Narayanaswamy Sekar
<[email protected]> wrote:
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From: 'N Sekar' via iyer123 <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, Jan 5, 2024, 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: [iyer123] KANCHHEPURAM...
To: <[email protected]>, Kerala Iyer <[email protected]>,
Venkat Giri <[email protected]>, Gopa4411 <[email protected]>
Thanks.
1. In Kanchi Ekambareswarar Temple there is small shrine for Vishnu and it is
considered one of the 108 Divya Desams.
2. Re Sri G K's Query.
Soul is the one that gets liberated Sir; Vedanta gives the example, comparing
the Soul as the body and the Body as the dress we are wearing - just to
highlight the similarity - Read the following.
Like the body replaces old, worn out shirts (dress), the Soul also seeks to
obtain another body - when the time comes it leaves the body seeking another
suitable body, depending on our Karma. Except it does not always wait for the
body to get old, but at a predetermined time as per our belief.
When our Vasanaas are fully exhausted then the Soul gets liberated ( we call it
Mukti) and does not take any more births.
It is believed that those who die at Kashi - their souls are liberated and
attain Mukti - meaning no more births.
That's the reason why many old people want to spend their final days at Kashi
but the problem is no one knows when his time will come.
In the Manikarnika Ghat on the banks of Maa Ganga, you can see bodies burning
24 /7. The old practices of throwing a half burnt body into the river is now
sought to be prevented.
After 2014 Kashi has become a new, more environment friendly city. Projects
are on going to make it to reclaim it's old Glory as the oldest living city.
N Sekar
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On Fri, Jan 5, 2024 at 8:20 AM, 'gopala krishnan' via
iyer123<[email protected]> wrote: Sir,
Your forward has stated on visiting Kanchipuram, a person's soul is liberated.
How a person's soul can get liberated? Does it means purified?
Gopalakrishnan
On Thursday, 4 January, 2024 at 10:56:41 pm IST, 'venkat giri' via iyer123
<[email protected]> wrote:
RespectedSir/s,
காஞ்சி மகாபெரியவர் பூஜ்ய ஸ்ரீ சந்திரசேகரேந்திர சரஸ்வதி சுவாமிகள்!
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#தமிழகத்தின்_காசி எது தெரியுமா..?
எல்லா ஊர்களும் ஒவ்வொரு வகையில் சிறப்புப் பெற்றதுஎன்றாலும்,சில ஊர்களுக்கு
மகான்களாலோ, அறிஞர்களாலோ மிகப்பெரிய சிறப்பு ஏற்பட்டு விடுகிறது.
அந்த வகையில் தமிழகத்தின் மிகச்சிறந்தநகரங்களில் ஒன்றாக விளங்குவது #காஞ்சிபுரம்.
ஏனெனில், இங்கு தான் உலகாளும் ஈஸ்வரியான காமாட்சியும், நடமாடும் தெய்வமான காஞ்சி
மகாப்பெரியவரும்அருளாட்சி செய்கின்றனர்.
நகரங்களில் மிகவும் சிறந்தது காஞ்சி என்பதை நகரேஷு காஞ்சி என்ற வடமொழிச்
சொல்குறிப்பிடுகிறது.
नगरेषु कांची
KALIDAS, affectionately called by some passionate admirer as theShakespeare of
India – himself passionately lauded the South Indian city Kanchipuram whenhe
said:
“புஷ்பேஷு ஜாதி.புருஷேஷு விஷ்ணு. நாரீஷு ரம்பா. நகரேஷுகாஞ்சி”
“PushpeshuJati. Purusheshu Vishnu. Nareeshu Rambha. Nagareshu Kanchi” which
means thatJati, ஜாதிமல்லிகை Vishnu, Rambha, and Kanchi are the greatest
flowers,man, woman, and city respectively. This jingle is attributed to
Kalidasa, aconnoisseur of places who might have seen enough of Kanchipuram more
than amillennium ago to come up such a crisp verse. Certainly, for over two
thousandyears, Kanchipuram has been laying down layers of the finest in
culture. Eventhough these earlier days have largely to be surmised, there is
plenty ofhistorical documentation about the Pallavas and Cholas, who had a big
hand inbuilding the city and its environs.
Theoriginal name of Kanchipuram was Kachchi Managar காஞ்சி மாநகர். There
have been different interpretations of the word kanchi. TheSanskrit term
denotes a woman’s waist-girdle. This place was also known asTondaimandalam
தொண்டை மண்டலம் in ancient Sangam literature, in which it is, referred to as
aforest of kanchi (river Portia) trees. The city itself is referred to
asKachchi in works like Manimekalai. It is located on the Palar River. The
famousSangam classic, Perumbanatruppadai, பெரும்பாணாற்றுப்படை. describes Kanchi
and its king, Ilam Tiraiyan இளந்திரையன்thus:
What we find here is Kalidasa demonstrating thegreatness of Kanchi while at
that time doing the same to his own rhetoric. Inthis what is ‘surprising’is the
fact that we have nearly no traces of Kalidasa having been to the cityof
Kanchipuram (kalidasa was a poet at the Gupta court in Pataliputra/Patna).
Reasons for his saying that are not hard to conjecture. Kanchipuram
inhis days must have been a fabulous city and a fabled city Kanchi finds
itselfin the list of seven Mokshapuris (therefore, also called Saptapuris). It
issaid that a devotee’s soul gets liberated directly when he visits
aMokshapuri.
Beyond doubt, Kanchipuram was more-or-less the city ofdreams, hence all the
praise from unexpected corners of the Indian map.
Kanchi is described as a fertile land inhabited by
honest,self-esteemed, and particularly courageous people. But the fact that
this was amajor Buddhist site and an educational hub.
Archaeological evidence shows that Buddhism wasif not the most popular, one of
the most prominent religions in the region.
Kanchi is one of the holiest cities for Hindusin India. Pancha Kanchi is the
term used today to describe the quarters of theancient city that were home to
five religious practices (Buddhism, Jainism,Vaishnavism, Shaivism, and
Shaktism).
Varadarajaand Ekambareswara temples are one of the most important for
South IndianVaishnavites and Shaivites respectively. Nevertheless Kamakshi
shrine is themost noted attraction here – so much so that Shankara, the great
Vedantictheologian established his Peetham (a religious order) here (and this
continuestoday – with undiminished authority).
Nagareshu Kanchi
பாரதத்தில், அயோத்தி,மதுரா, மாயா (ஹரித்துவார்), காசி, அவந்திகா (உஜ்ஜயினி),
துவாரகை ஆகிய வடமாநில ஊர்களுடன் தென்னகத்தின் காஞ்சிபுரம் உட்பட ஏழு
இடங்கள்மோட்சத்தை தரும் மோட்சபுரிகள் என அழைக்கப்படுகின்றன.
Seven of holy cities of Sapta Puri areAyodhya, Mathura, Maya (Haridwar), Kasi
(Varanasi), Kanchi (Kanchipuram),Avantika (Ujjain) and Dvaravati
உலகம் அழியும் காலத்தில், ஒரு சில ஊர்கள் மட்டும் அழியாது என புராணங்கள்
கூறுகின்றன.
அதில் சிவனால் பாதுகாக்க ப்படும் தலம் கும்பகோணம்.
அன்னை காமாட்சியால் பாதுகாக்கப்படும் தலம் காஞ்சிபுரம்.
எனவே இந்த ஊரை பிரளயஜித் க்ஷேத்ரம் என்பர். பிரளயம் என்றால்உலக அழிவு. ஜித்
என்றால் வெற்றி.
இங்கிருக்கும் காமாட்சி மூன்று தேவியரின் அம்சமாகத்திகழ்கிறாள்.
ஸ்ரீதேவியான லட்சுமி, வாக்தேவியான சரஸ்வதி, சவுபாக்கியதேவதையான அம்பாள் ஆகியோர்
வாசம்செய்யும் ஊர் இது.
இவ்வூரை விட்டு, இவர்கள் ஒருநாளும் பிரிவதில்லை என்ற அந்தஸ்தைக் கொண்டது.
புண்ணிய பாரதத்தின்நாபி (தொப்புள்) ஸ்தலமாக விளங்குவது காஞ்சிபுரம்.
பிரம்மா செய்த வேள்வியின் போது, அவிர்பாகம் ஏற்ற திருமால், சங்கு சக்கர
கதாதாரியாய் இவ்வூரில் தங்கி அருள்பாலிக்கிறார்.
இவ்வூரின் வரதராஜப் பெருமாள், உலகளந்த பெருமாள் கோயில்கள் பிரம்மாண்டமானவை.
இது பஞ்சபூத க்ஷேத்ரங்களில் பிருத்வி(நிலம்)தலமாகவும் விளங்குகிறது.
இங்குள்ள கைலாசநாதர் கோவில் கருவறையைச் சுற்றிவரும்போது, சொர்க்க பிரதட்சணம் என்ற
வாசல் வழியாக வெளியேவருவர்.
இப்படி வெளியேறுபவர்களுக்கு மறுஜென்மம் ஏற்படாது என்பர்.
இங்குள்ள கச்சபேஸ்வரர் கோயிலிலுள்ள இஷ்டசித்தி தீர்த்த
நீரைத்தெளித்தாலே போதும்.
தீர்க்காயுள் கிடைக்கும்.
தேனம்பாக்கத்திலுள்ள சிவாஸ்தானம் கோயிலில் மிகப்பெரியவிசேஷம்.
சிவபார்வதியின் நடுவில் முருகன்
இருந்தால் சோமாஸ்கந்தர் என அழைப்போம்.
இங்கே முருகனுக்கு பதிலாக விநாயகர் நடுவில்இருக்கிறார்.
காஞ்சிப்பெரியவர் விருப்பமுடன் இங்கு தங்கி பக்தர்களுக்கு அருள்பாலித்த
சிறப்புபெற்ற இடம் இது.
கந்தபுராணம் எழுதிய கச்சியப்ப சிவாச்சாரியார் வாழ்ந்த பூமிஇது.
அவரால் புகழப்பட்ட குமரக்கடவுள் அருளும் குமரக்கோட்டம் கோயில் இங்கு தான் உள்ளது.
காஞ்சிபுரத்தை சத்யவிரத க்ஷேத்ரம் என்றும் புகழ்வர்.
உண்மை குடியிருக்கும் ஊர் இது.
எந்த உண்மை!சாட்சாத் காமாட்சியே
நம்மைக் காக்கவல்லவள் என்ற உண்மை!
இதுபோன்ற தலங்களில் செய்யும் தானம், பிராயச்சித்தம், அனுஷ்டிக்கும் விரதங்களுக்கு
நூறு மடங்கு புண்ணியம் அதிகம்.
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