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From: 'N Sekar' via iyer123 <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: [KeralaIyers] Re: [iyer123] Fw: sharing Raita _*Adding Extra
Curd*_
To: Ranganathan <[email protected]>, Vanakkam Subbu <
[email protected]>, Chittanandam V R <[email protected]>, YM <
[email protected]>, Dr Sundar <[email protected]>, Venkat Raman <
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[email protected]>, Rangarajan T.N.C. <[email protected]>, Mathangi
K. Kumar <[email protected]>, Srinivasan Sridharan <
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Cc: Gopala Krishnan <[email protected]>


Thanks Mr. Rajaram for your apologies, Nice of you,  and let me also say
sorry for the harsh words I was forced to use, much against my wishes.

The Quotes / narrations I fwd are not aimed at anyone but for the benefit
of all.

Re: Quotes - whether from the West or from anybody else - I fwd what I
read, *IF*  I find them interesting and worth reading by others; others may
disagree and it is their privilege.

 I don't know Sanskrit (not even Hindi) and hence my knowledge of what is
said in our Scriptures and ancient Texts is limited. Whatever little I know
I have gained from my Teachers, Gurus, Upanyasams my Mother forcibly used
to take me to, and books on various subjects, not to mention the social
media.

So I will continue to fwd a few of what I read. I just say "Fwd" in the
subject column so as not to arrogate to myself what is said. Fwd includes
what I get from my circles, what I have heard / read and retained , what I
read, what I hear in various lectures etc.

 While comments are welcome on the contents like differing / different
views or another interpretation, let us not argue about who said it, why
and all that. Osho may not be liked by many, particularly the orthodox, but
I find some of his sayings are worth reading and circulating.

Because

I follow Thirukkural  which says "Analyze what is said by whoever and if
found sensible, accept it - "Epporul Yar Yar Vai ketpinum apporul Meipurul
Kanpathu Arivu"

*I don't particularly care who said what but what is important to me is
What is Said. *

I have no ill feelings but let us just take what we read at what it is - at
face value and not try to find hidden meanings or motives because there are
none.

Oh, by the way, I don't have any friendship (rightly or wrongly)  with
anyone in this group ( although I have spoken to a few) and it is these
kinds of remarks you would do well without - in my opinion. I take full
responsibility to what I write and I think I am mature enough not to get
influenced by others' thoughts and expressions.

Regards

N Sekar


On Thursday, February 22, 2024 at 06:49:14 PM GMT+4, Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
[email protected]> wrote:


Reply in one line:   KARKA, KASADARA; KATRAPIN NIRKA; ATHARKKUTH TAGA. wHEN
ONE DOES 2 THINGS DIFFERENTLY,WITHOUT PROPER LOGIC  {ULLONDRU VAITHU PURAM
ONDRU PESUVAAR} IS CALLED AN HYPOCRITE. Time passers pass only the hours
and remain stoic. I have written a lot of times that I am not against
anything from the west. As a matter of fact, I had written that we have to
be thankful for their contributions to our scriptures, which        opened
up the brains of the non-sanskrits and opened up our face to the earth.
But when we encourage people to do something , why go all the way going out
to borrow ideas from there? Kaniyiruppa  kavarnthatru. Wherever there is a
necessity in any article to compare, quote their ideas, there we will use
all of them. Subramanya Bharathi wrote: Melai kadal muzhudum kappal
viduvom; let's learn all from the west; let's bring the entire wealth here;
but said our treasures are in abundance. So writing as kamalaa hassen
dialogue "pazhamozhiyai anubavikanum" is a joke; we are aged leading kindly
the light to the earth. We will copy only when we want to do things
haphazardly; but if we really use our aged brain with the experience, the
earth can be rolled over. I am happy Mr Sekar is bold but feels otherwise
because of a friendship chosen wrongly. Thank you I apologise sekar  K R
IRS 22224

On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 at 23:25, N Sekar <[email protected]> wrote:

Dear Sri G K,

Thanks for your mail.

As you have rightly stated we all forward quotes / articles / sayings /
jokes etc. because we want others also to enjoy and benefit from them (to
the extent one can) as said in the Tamizh saying

"Yaan Petra Inbam Peruka Ivvayaikam" meaning let others also benefit from
what I have benefitted.

Nobody asks the sender (irrespective of who he is) whether he follows what
he forwards, but only some ask these silly questions, but they easily
forget that they themselves copy paste and forward many other forwards and
no sensible person asks them whether these senders follow what they say.

Yes, when people in authority ask others to do certain things we ask them
whether they do so but the context there is totally different.

I am not going to be deterred by these insane, inane, disgraceful,
disgusting and silly comments and let the readers draw their own
conclusions.

I don't normally respond to what I consider to be Toxic comments but
sometimes I am forced to do so, much against my wishes.

Mr. R K's response:

"*Who adds salt to Injury speaks about adding curd to salt*.  *Where gunas
decide the human levels,* *by birth and their own levels of actions, where
is the question of advocacy*, *that all of you be quiet ,while I will do
all wretchedness; and you shall be nicer to me?;* *I again and again
stress, that any advise is MUTUAL;"*

First of all it was not an advice but only a Fwd and I never asked anyone
to keep quiet - people with even an iota of common sense would have
understood all these but as is said "Common sense is not so common".

Yet, he has the gall to say now - in his response to mine,  that I think
differently (like you, for added measure). Any decent person would have
said sorry but some don't know what courtesy, decency and decorum mean -
Ego, Ego and Nothing But Ego, that "I know it all" attitude.

He will ask why we fwd Western quotes but he himself will quote Western
authors.
Obviously he has not read what Rig Veda says -  "Let Noble thoughts come to
us from all Sides" and I suppose All Sides include the West also.

I am including him in my addresses as I don't want to talk behind his back.

I will not respond further as I know it is futile and is a total waste of
time.

N Sekar


On Thursday, February 22, 2024 at 05:19:53 AM GMT+4, 'gopala krishnan' via
KeralaIyers <[email protected]> wrote:


Dear Mr Sekar,

Not adding fuel to fire in the early morning. There are few of the nature*"
I have not stolen the bowl". *

Mr Rajaram by writing these likes reminds of the  above saying.

Any sort of remarks or notes, if there is any hinting, *he feels it is
aimed at him and only at him. *

You just forwarded the posting for  the *morale of the incident *mostly
imaginative about adding extra curd. It is just about the morale.

Human nature is inborn. It can be corrected to certain extent only by
themselves. These legends aims at it.

I understood. Day by day I am learning how to add curd and when to add
curd.

Nothing more to add.

On Wednesday, 21 February, 2024 at 11:05:20 pm IST, 'N Sekar' via iyer123 <
[email protected]> wrote:


I normally don't respond to some people BUT am forced to state:

1. I can't understand thd tone and tenor and the snide remarks as they are
seemingly directed at the sender which is myself.
Otherwise, who were they directed at - in this fwd?

2. The person claims he never initiates any insulting remarks but only
responds and so what was in my fwd to provoke these harsh totally uncalled
for words?

3. Lastly is this " content for content"? As the person always says he
replies only content for content.

I know it is useless to argue but let people decide for themselves and
that's why I am ccing all.

N Sekar

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On Wed, Feb 21, 2024 at 9:01 PM, Rajaram Krishnamurthy
<[email protected]> wrote:
Tirukkural 664. Solludal yaarkkum eliyavaam. Who adds salt to Injury speaks
about adding curd to salt.  Where gunas decide the human levels, by birth
and their own levels of actions, where is the question of advocacy, that
all of you be quiet ,while I will do all wretchedness; and you shall be
nicer to me?; I again and again stress, that any advise is MUTUAL;
MUTUALITY IS A SUBJECTIVE CONDITIONS; and hence solvadhu yaarkkum
eliyavaam. And always the devil alone speaks the scriptures as advises.
Summayiruthale sugam. This is also aa quote. KR  IRS  21224

On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 at 10:40, 'N Sekar' via iyer123 <
[email protected]> wrote:

Thanks to the friend who sent me this.

N Sekar




sharing
Raita
_*Adding Extra Curd*_
On a Sunday afternoon a family gathered over the Lunch table to have their
favourite Biriyani, Wife was serving the food to both her Son and her
Husband. After the food was served, husband tasted the Biriyani along with
Raita and starting yelling at his wife for adding More salt in Raita. She
opened the refrigerator and added some curd to it, and she served it again,
after tasting it the husband said “You should have done it properly and checked
it before serving it to us, because of the extra salt, you have spoilt my
mood of eating Biriyani”
After some time, the son and the father completed their lunch and wife
served herself and completed her lunch, while she was washing the vessels,
son came to meet her and he saw his mother with tears in her eyes, when he
inquired why she was crying, she just wiped her tears and said “ nothing”
and asked him what he wants, he asked for some money, and she told him to
take it from her purse.
After some years, Son was married and his mother lived along with him. On a
Sunday afternoon, he was helping his wife in placing the dishes on the
table and his son started serving Biriyani to his grandmother, and he
started serving her some Raita, after that he sat on his chair and started
helping his wife and his son.
While he started eating the biriyani with Raita, he felt it was salty, he
got up from his chair and picked up the curd bowl and added some curd to
Raita and told “Biriyani is yummy”
His wife asked him why he added some extra curd to Raita, he looked at his
mother and said “my mother knows the pain of extra salt in Raita”, his wife
said I don't understand what you said “ He smiled and said Raita was salty,
so I added extra curd so that you not will feel it salty” she said “I am
sorry about it” He said
“If my father could have added extra curd to the Raita, my mother would
have not had tears in her eyes for rest of her life”
“If my father could have added extra care towards my mother, my mother
would have not had the extra burden in her heart”
“If my father could have gone an extra mile in loving our family, we would
have gone an extra mile in being peaceful and happy”
Every one of us make mistakes in one way or other way in our life, but the
greatest mistake is fighting and yelling over the mistakes that was made.
Ask for yourself “Did you react over the extra salt in the Raita or did you
respond by adding extra curd to it”
Life becomes sweeter when we understand the power of adding some Empathy,
care, kindness and forgiveness” first with the ones that matter most and
are dearest to us
_*An extra second of thinking can change our life forever*_

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