Mr Sekar,
We all take apologies, regret and what more.. The man concerned is silent. This
is the basic problem. I have written to a Samaritan in the groups also to
write to Mr Rajaram.
Just like Vasistha Mr Narayanaswamy is ready to forget insults I hope if Mr
Rajaram apologize.
Gopalakrishnan
On Friday, 23 February, 2024 at 01:15:15 pm IST, 'N Sekar' via iyer123
<[email protected]> wrote:
Thank you Sir.
Kind Regards
N Sekar
On Friday, February 23, 2024 at 11:41:41 AM GMT+4, Laxminarayan Sarma
<[email protected]> wrote:
Sekar-ji
I have no quarrel with anybody, least of all a humane, kind and softspoken
gentleman like your goodself. "Raat Gayi, Baat Gayi ( the night's gone, so is
the quarrel) is a fauji dictum. Done and dusted. Because life must go on
I DON'T wish to turn the wheel back, but, for a Change, and with your
permission, I will do it, for once.
Till September last year, i was a mute witness to the not so very palatable
(yet within the Lakshman Rekha) responses to the hyper-aggressive , unprovoked
use of Tamiz expletives against Shri Narayanaswamy Anna and Shri
Gopalakrishnan-ji. It was only around November that i felt compelled to
intervene, in the politest manner, that , unfortunately, not only failedd, but
boomeranged on me with sarcasm, aggression and abuse.
Not being Christ or Gandhi, but.being a brahmin by birth and kshatriya by
profession, i couldn't stand a venerable Elderly scholar, a fathet-figure, like
Narayanaswamy Anna and a very refined, polite, soft-spoken gentleman (a true
Gandhian in word and deed) like Shri Gopalakrishnan-ji getting abused.
And, as it is said, the rest is history.
It's not too late in the day that the IRS-man apologises to a 98 year old Vedic
Pundit, a prolific writer and an eminent jurist like Anna
I'm willing to forget everything. And shake hands all around
Otherwise it will be BUSINESS AS USUAL.
No hard feelings, brother.
Cordially Yours
On Fri, 23 Feb, 2024, 10:21 am Narayanaswamy Iyer, <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear folks
Sri N Sekar should not get unnecessarily worked up because he thinks that:-
"What I took strong exception to was calling names ( prostitutes etc) of the
women members' families and this, I said repeatedly, TO ALL INVOLVED."
Perhaps Sri N Sekar should look through the emails from Rajaram Krishnamoorthy
alias K R ex-IRS to the website over the last couple of years. It was he
himself in his very own person who addressed Sri Gopalakrishnan AND ALL OTHERS
that he had no worries at all IF HIS OWN MOTHER WAS A PROSTITUTE.
That appellation stuck.
If the insulter of his own mother slashed his own nose in public, Sri N Sekar
should not attribute to others (or to all and sundry) the original sin of the
abuser of his own mother.
When can we expect Sri N Sekar's apology?
S Narayanaswamy Iyer
On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 12:10 PM 'N Sekar' via KeralaIyers
<[email protected]> wrote:
Dear Sri L N Sarma,
Pranams.
I just read your post and since I am one of those who appealed to ALL involved
(not just you) to desist from calling our mothers by highly objectionable words
etc. I feel I may be one of those who you have taken exception to.
Let me repeat what I said in my 2 mails - I am not unduly bothered by the
fighting between members BUT what I took strong exception to was calling names
( prostitutes etc) of the women members' families and this, I said repeatedly,
TO ALL INVOLVED. I did not pick and choose. But unfortunately the same words
are being used again and I can only appeal again, not to bring in the womenfolk
into our fights.
And the other occasion I crossed swords with you was when in of your mails I
found some objectionable words about "Teenage Agraharam Widows" - if my memory
serves me right.
I am not being partial Sir and if you feel so I have no hesitation to say Sorry.
I hope I have clarified my position.
N Sekar
On Friday, February 23, 2024 at 07:54:50 AM GMT+4, 'gopala krishnan' via
KeralaIyers <[email protected]> wrote:
Respected Mr Sarma,
Today one of the great wonders has happened. Let us hope such wonders happen so
that no adverse comments are made on Mr Rajaram. The wonder is-
"Thank you I apologise sekar K R IRS 22224"
If Mr Rajaram would have made such an apology to Mr Narayanaswamy, or he makes
now, all the heated exchanges could have/can be avoided.
I hope the same thing Mr Rajaram would do in a few hours/ days. Many members
are awaiting this including me. Hope for the best.
No harm meant to any persons.
Gopalakrishnan
On Friday, 23 February, 2024 at 07:11:14 am IST, Laxminarayan Sarma
<[email protected]> wrote:
Dear Narayanaswamy Anna
The dead ass has already been flogged enough but I can't but help repeating
that , after my repeated attempts, in the most polite, persuasive and
parliamentary manner, to mainstream him failed, and not just that, but also
made me a target of his busive harangues, that i had to return the compliments.
But look at the hypocrisy of some of our brahmana bandhus because when I chose
a harmless Hindi word (choothiya) to express my opinion of him being a fool ,
to counter his filthiest Tamil obscenities, They came down upon me like a tonne
of bricks. I responded asming them whether Tamizh expletuves are kosher while
harmoess Hindi synonyms for words like fool are
offensive. But no reply so far
It's rather odd that we are being lectured on propriety, but the original
offender, a mad dog running amock in our midst barking expletive after vile
expletive in Tamil has never ever been even countered. Love of Tamizh. Or plain
Kongan Cowardice
On Thu, 22 Feb, 2024, 3:00 pm Narayanaswamy Iyer, <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear folks
Sri N Sekar writes:-
' He has the gall to say now - in his response to mine, that I think
differently (like you, for added measure). Any decent person would have said
sorry but some don't know what courtesy, decency and decorum mean - Ego, Ego
and Nothing But Ego, that "I know it all" attitude." ',
'He will ask why we fwd Western quotes but he himself will quote Western
authors.Obviously he has not read what Rig Veda says - "Let Noble thoughts
come to us from all Sides" and I suppose All Sides include the West also.'
My comments:- We normally do not put salt into milk (or sugar into curd) but
we do have in our midst a strange deranged personality, an unemployed
ex-exciseman, who is a past master of "insane, inane, disgraceful, disgusting
and silly comments" as Sri N Sekar accurately describes him.
When the said repeat offender puts good wholesome cows' milk into his mouth, it
immediately curdles into poison, and he spits it out not caring whom it
splatters, including himself.
S Narayanaswamy Iyer
On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 1:25 PM 'N Sekar' via iyer123
<[email protected]> wrote:
Dear Sri G K,
Thanks for your mail.
As you have rightly stated we all forward quotes / articles / sayings / jokes
etc. because we want others also to enjoy and benefit from them (to the extent
one can) as said in the Tamizh saying
"Yaan Petra Inbam Peruka Ivvayaikam" meaning let others also benefit from what
I have benefitted.
Nobody asks the sender (irrespective of who he is) whether he follows what he
forwards, but only some ask these silly questions, but they easily forget that
they themselves copy paste and forward many other forwards and no sensible
person asks them whether these senders follow what they say.
Yes, when people in authority ask others to do certain things we ask them
whether they do so but the context there is totally different.
I am not going to be deterred by these insane, inane, disgraceful, disgusting
and silly comments and let the readers draw their own conclusions.
I don't normally respond to what I consider to be Toxic comments but sometimes
I am forced to do so, much against my wishes.
Mr. R K's response:
"Who adds salt to Injury speaks about adding curd to salt. Where gunas decide
the human levels, by birth and their own levels of actions, where is the
question of advocacy, that all of you be quiet ,while I will do all
wretchedness; and you shall be nicer to me?; I again and again stress, that any
advise is MUTUAL;"
First of all it was not an advice but only a Fwd and I never asked anyone to
keep quiet - people with even an iota of common sense would have understood all
these but as is said "Common sense is not so common".
Yet, he has the gall to say now - in his response to mine, that I think
differently (like you, for added measure). Any decent person would have said
sorry but some don't know what courtesy, decency and decorum mean - Ego, Ego
and Nothing But Ego, that "I know it all" attitude.
He will ask why we fwd Western quotes but he himself will quote Western
authors.Obviously he has not read what Rig Veda says - "Let Noble thoughts
come to us from all Sides" and I suppose All Sides include the West also.
I am including him in my addresses as I don't want to talk behind his back.
I will not respond further as I know it is futile and is a total waste of time.
N Sekar
On Thursday, February 22, 2024 at 05:19:53 AM GMT+4, 'gopala krishnan' via
KeralaIyers <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear Mr Sekar,
Not adding fuel to fire in the early morning. There are few of the nature" I
have not stolen the bowl".
Mr Rajaram by writing these likes reminds of the above saying.
Any sort of remarks or notes, if there is any hinting, he feels it is aimed at
him and only at him.
You just forwarded the posting for the morale of the incident mostly
imaginative about adding extra curd. It is just about the morale.
Human nature is inborn. It can be corrected to certain extent only by
themselves. These legends aims at it.
I understood. Day by day I am learning how to add curd and when to add curd.
Nothing more to add.
On Wednesday, 21 February, 2024 at 11:05:20 pm IST, 'N Sekar' via iyer123
<[email protected]> wrote:
I normally don't respond to some people BUT am forced to state:
1. I can't understand thd tone and tenor and the snide remarks as they are
seemingly directed at the sender which is myself.Otherwise, who were they
directed at - in this fwd?
2. The person claims he never initiates any insulting remarks but only responds
and so what was in my fwd to provoke these harsh totally uncalled for words?
3. Lastly is this " content for content"? As the person always says he replies
only content for content.
I know it is useless to argue but let people decide for themselves and that's
why I am ccing all.
N Sekar
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
On Wed, Feb 21, 2024 at 9:01 PM, Rajaram Krishnamurthy<[email protected]>
wrote: Tirukkural 664. Solludal yaarkkum eliyavaam. Who adds salt to Injury
speaks about adding curd to salt. Where gunas decide the human levels, by
birth and their own levels of actions, where is the question of advocacy, that
all of you be quiet ,while I will do all wretchedness; and you shall be nicer
to me?; I again and again stress, that any advise is MUTUAL; MUTUALITY IS A
SUBJECTIVE CONDITIONS; and hence solvadhu yaarkkum eliyavaam. And always the
devil alone speaks the scriptures as advises. Summayiruthale sugam. This is
also aa quote. KR IRS 21224
On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 at 10:40, 'N Sekar' via iyer123 <[email protected]>
wrote:
Thanks to the friend who sent me this.
N Sekar
sharingRaita_*Adding Extra Curd*_On a Sunday afternoon a family gathered over
the Lunch table to have their favourite Biriyani, Wife was serving the food to
both her Son and her Husband. After the food was served, husband tasted the
Biriyani along with Raita and starting yelling at his wife for adding More salt
in Raita. She opened the refrigerator and added some curd to it, and she served
it again, after tasting it the husband said “You should have done it properly
and checked it before serving it to us, because of the extra salt, you have
spoilt my mood of eating Biriyani” After some time, the son and the father
completed their lunch and wife served herself and completed her lunch, while
she was washing the vessels, son came to meet her and he saw his mother with
tears in her eyes, when he inquired why she was crying, she just wiped her
tears and said “ nothing” and asked him what he wants, he asked for some money,
and she told him to take it from her purse. After some years, Son was married
and his mother lived along with him. On a Sunday afternoon, he was helping his
wife in placing the dishes on the table and his son started serving Biriyani to
his grandmother, and he started serving her some Raita, after that he sat on
his chair and started helping his wife and his son. While he started eating the
biriyani with Raita, he felt it was salty, he got up from his chair and picked
up the curd bowl and added some curd to Raita and told “Biriyani is yummy” His
wife asked him why he added some extra curd to Raita, he looked at his mother
and said “my mother knows the pain of extra salt in Raita”, his wife said I
don't understand what you said “ He smiled and said Raita was salty, so I added
extra curd so that you not will feel it salty” she said “I am sorry about it”
He said “If my father could have added extra curd to the Raita, my mother would
have not had tears in her eyes for rest of her life” “If my father could have
added extra care towards my mother, my mother would have not had the extra
burden in her heart” “If my father could have gone an extra mile in loving our
family, we would have gone an extra mile in being peaceful and happy” Every one
of us make mistakes in one way or other way in our life, but the greatest
mistake is fighting and yelling over the mistakes that was made. Ask for
yourself “Did you react over the extra salt in the Raita or did you respond by
adding extra curd to it” Life becomes sweeter when we understand the power of
adding some Empathy, care, kindness and forgiveness” first with the ones that
matter most and are dearest to us _*An extra second of thinking can change our
life forever*_
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