1st Law of Thermodynamics - Energy cannot be created or destroyed.
KR: Matter can neither be created nor be destroyed; Vedic Bowdeekam
means Physics.
Vedic Principle from verse 1.2 Brihadaranyaka Upanishad through the
readings of Krishna nanda:
“naiveha kiṁcanāgra āsīt, mṛtyunaivedam āvṛtam āsīt, aśanāyayā, aśanāyā
hi mṛtyuḥ; tan mano'kuruta ātmanvī syām iti. so'rcann acarat, tasyārcata.
āpojāyanta, arcate vai me kam abhūd iti; tad evārkasya arkatvam; kaṁ ha vā
asmai bhavati, ya evam etad arkasya arkatvaṁ veda. “
The verse arose from Rig Veda NASADIYA SUKTAM.
Originally, there was nothing. (The word NOTHING is to be carefully
followed; Vedas do not speak untruth). Death was enveloping everything. That
is all the meaning, literally, of this sentence.(KR: NOTHING means it is
not shunya; it is the glory of death enveloping all That is all). In the
beginning of things, what was there? Nothing was there. There was a
devouring, all-consuming death principle, as it were; nothing else can we
conceive. In the Veda, also, there is this very same point reflected in the
Nāsadīya Sūkta, which proclaims that, in the beginning, *there was neither
existence, nor non-existence*. What was there, originally? Darkness
enveloped, as it were, because there *was not the light of sensory
perception*. {KR absence of evidence is not the absence of the existent of
any evidence) What we call light is nothing but the *capacity of the senses
to perceive*. When the senses cannot perceive, we say there is no light.
[KR: It was there; but we lacked the sense to perceive, so we said nothing}
In pitch darkness, a kind of light exists; but the eyes are incapable of
catching the ray of that light. That frequency is quite different from the
one that is necessary for the eyes to perceive. So, when there was no
possibility of external consciousness, when there was no sensory activity,
when there was no distinction between the subject and the object, when the
seer was not distinguishable from the seen, what was there?
Nothing was there! *Naiveha kiṁcanāgra āsīt:* Originally, nothing was
there, because our idea of 'something' is an 'object'. There is no object
present, because the object enters the subject, and vice versa. Creation is
nothing but the projection of externality in Indivisible Being. The
creation of the universe, therefore, is not actually the manufacture of a
new substance. *In creation, a new thing is not created, because nothing
can come from nothing*. If a new thing is to be created, it must have been
produced out of nothing. How can 'nothing' produce 'something'? This is
illogical. The effect must have existed in some causal state. This causal
state is the substance of the universe. Now, what is actually the
distinctive mark of the universe that is created, as different from the
original causal condition? In what way does the effect get differentiated
from the cause? If everything that is in the effect is in the cause, what
is the distinctive feature, what is the distinguishing mark, which
separates the effect from the cause? If the effect is entirely different
from the cause, we cannot posit a cause at all, because the cause is
non-existent. If the cause is non-existent, the effect also would be
non-existent. So, the cause must have contained the effect in a primordial
state; and, therefore, nothing can be visualised in the effect which could
not have been in the cause. In a sense, therefore, what is in the effect is
what is in the cause. The effect is the cause. There is no final
non-distinction between the effect and the cause, inasmuch as in substance
they are the same. But yet, we make a distinction between the two.
Now, when the effect gets psychologically isolated from the cause,
there is the seed sown for the further diversity of creation. The two
become four, four become eight, eight become sixteen, and multiplicity,
thus, proceeds from the original Single Atom of the cosmos. And, when this
diversity, which is creation, is conceived as possible and capable of being
hiddenly present in the cause, we have to assume, also, a peculiar potency
in the cause, which becomes the reason behind the manifestation of
diversity. This is called the Śakti in certain philosophies, the force,
energy, that is present in consciousness, a peculiar indistinguishable,
indescribable, eluding something, without the assumption of which creation
cannot be assumed. And, sometimes, people call it Māya, merely because they
cannot understand what it is. It is not a substance that exists. It is
rather an inability to grasp the meaning of it; that is all.
So, this cosmological process, the development of the effect from the
cause, gradually, from the Universal Being, down to the lowest of diverse
elements – this it is that is described here in this Brāhmaṇa, which says
that originally nothing was, from where the element of distinction between
the subject and the object, characterised by a double activity of grasping
and separation, was evolved, and then arose the Cosmic Mind,
Hiraṇyagarbha.There will be nothing more in the Absolute than what we see
in the individual. This conclusion also will follow, if this assumption is
correct; and it is a very uncomfortable conclusion, because we are not
seeking in the Absolute merely what is in us. *A million people put
together cannot be regarded as qualitatively superior to what a single
individual is*. It is also held that the Absolute is transcendent in the
sense that it has no connection at all with the visible universe. Often, it
is also held that the Absolute is so much absorbed in the universe that we
cannot find it outside the universe. So, we have theories and theories, and
doctrines and doctrines.
Then application of then philosophy of all the time existent, long after
became a also known as 1 law of thermodynamics. Then followed by water fire
etc as seen below in the next verse; and so science was found by us so
early but the less educated west taught us the science as if freshly found
by them ; so they cannot educate us.
II āpo vā arkaḥ. tad yad apāṁ śara āsīt, tat samahanyata, sā pṛithivy
abhavat, tasyām aśrāmyat. tasya śrāntasya taptasya tejo raso
niravartatāgniḥ.
Here, again, we have some description of the condensation of the dense form
of things, gradually taking place in the process of creation – the subtle
becomes gross. The cosmic waters hardened, as it were, became solid,
gradually, and the Earth element was formed. By the Earth element, what is
meant here is not merely this little globe of the earth on which we are
living, but the entire Earth Principle of the whole astronomical universe,
through which your eyes cannot pass. The whole element of Earth can be
regarded as the solidified form of this cosmic condition, the subtle nature
of things which is called here, Waters. It solidified itself. From Fire
comes Water; from Water comes Earth. This is the chronological order of
creation of the gross forms, ordinarily speaking. Sā pṛithivy abhavat: That
became the Earth, the grossened form of things.
Here is the end of Cosmic creation. There is a famous passage in a text of the
Vedānta, known as Panchadaśi, written by Sage Vidyāraṇya, who describes
this in one Sloka:
Iksānadi-praveśāntā ṣṛṣhtirīśena kalpitā. Jāgradādi-vimokṣhantah samsāro
jivīkalpitaḥ. “
This passage of the Upaniṣhad, and such other passages are given their
meaning in this verse of the Panchadaśi. From the Cosmic Will down to
Divine Immanence, it is Īshvara's creation. From walking till liberation,
it is the individual's creation. Īshvara's creation or God's creation ends
with the manifestation of the universal physical form, and God is not
responsible for what the individual is experiencing. The loves and sorrows,
the joys and pains, the births and deaths of the individual are not created
by God. They are created by some other factor which is not to be attributed
to God. The condensation of the cosmos, right from the causal condition
down to the physical, through the subtle, may be said to be the manifesting
activity of God. He becomes the 'All' and becomes also the consciousness of
the 'All'. But the reversal of attitude, the considering of the object as
the subject and the subject as the object, and the desire to grab objects
for the purpose of personal satisfaction, and the capacity to fulfil
certain desires and the incapacity to fulfil certain others, the getting
fatigued in personality on account of the inability to fulfil all desires,
the falling into sleep every day on account of the latent condition of
desires unfulfilled, etc. – these are all the phenomena of individuality,
not of Cosmic Being. Even the 'process' of Mokṣha, or liberation, is not
God's creation, because God has no Mokṣha. He is always in the state of
Mokṣha only.
THUS 1ST LAW OF THERMODYNAMICS IF UNDERSTOOD CORRECTLY LEADS US TO
MOSHA.
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2nd Law of Thermodynamics - For a spontaneous process, the entropy of the
universe increases.
YMji was here. Entropy. Entropy is a scientific concept that is most
commonly associated with a state of disorder, randomness, or uncertainty. The
disambiguation. When did that disorder take place? In PRALAYAM AND AFTER;
so what went into the fold which alone existed, was not visible, as there
was no sense perception to see in the darkness, even though there was
light; we felt it was dark. IT WAS THERE AND UNFOLDED IN SRISHTI OR NAME IT
AS SRISHTI, whereas, it was a manifestation. What was our mind’s perception
therefore may not be the truth. The manifestation cause had the effect of
heat; heat spread to cold places; Entropy was caused. Water running from
high to low is principle so also entropy. HENCE THERE WAS NO EXCEPTION TO
ANYTHING HAD ONE DONE PHYSICS WELL OR ANCIENT VEDAS GOOD AT LEAST. And
since matter cannot be erased out, all that high heat energy, reduced to
normal energy, must be there to recycle; and that recycling is happening
all around us, effecting, in chain reaction as heat, winter rain etc etc.
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3rd Law of Thermodynamics - A perfect crystal at *zero Kelvin* has zero
entropy.
To reach zero kelvins, you would require an infinite amount of work. And
even if you could get there, quantum mechanics dictates that the atoms and
molecules would still have some irreducible motion. That is an utopia where
unless all atom motions were immovables only THAT ABSOLUTE ZERO WILL BE
REACHED; Now again go to Vedic 1st; it was dark; and there was nothing; IS
NOT TRUE, BECAUSE THERE SHALL ALWAYS BE SOME AATOM MOVEMENTS; BUT OUR
PERCEPTION OF THE MIND WITH THE INABILITY TO SEE THROUGH THE DARKNESS,
INITIATED 0 TO 100, 32 TO 212 AND THEN MINUS TEMP ETC WHICH ARE ALL ABOVE
kelvin zero or VEDIC CONCEPT SHOWED THE MOVEMENT OF BRAHMAM. It was cold
there but as momentum was there, manifestation when starting again, heat
energy can be generated leading to entropy. So, The Brihadaranyaka
Upanishad and the Rig veda Nasadiya suktam became A WONDERFUL SCIENCE; AND
IN SCIENCE EXCEPTIONS ARE NOT THERE; BUT ONLY IN OUR MINDS AND PERCEPTION
WITH THE CONDITIONED STATUS. So higher can impart knowledge to lower and
vice versa is impossible. K RAJARAM IRS 9324
On Fri, 8 Mar 2024 at 21:56, 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 <
[email protected]> wrote:
> Respected sir,
>
> "( An Idiot whose education is less cannot educate a person who is more
> educated, unless he shouts and bluffs that his shouting is educating.)"
>
> I enjoyed the *exception* to the law of thermodynamics
> Gopalakrishnan
>
> On Saturday, 9 March, 2024 at 08:36:26 am IST, Markendeya Yeddanapudi <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> --
> *Mar*Thermodynamics and Perception Symbiosis
>
>
>
> Thermodynamics is a study of heat and heat changes. Heat means the
> movement of molecules and atoms in a system. When the movement is more the
> heat will be more. When the movement is less the heat or temperature will
> be less. When there is no movement at all it is absolute zero where there
> is no movement of molecules or atoms at all, but only the electromagnetic
> waves zooming at the speed of light.
>
> One of the basic principles of Thermodynamics is that the heat from a body
> where the temperature is more moves into a body whose temperature is
> comparatively less. The heat from the body whose temperature is less cannot
> move into a body whose temperature is more. When the heat in the two bodies
> is same then there is the Thermal equilibrium that is there will be no heat
> exchange or the movement of molecules between the two bodies.( An Idiot
> whose education is less cannot educate a person who is more educated,
> unless he shouts and bluffs that his shouting is educating.)
>
> Now let us apply this principle to the Biosphere. Heat from an organism
> whose temperature is more will be moving into organisms whose temperature
> is less. It means that the excessive activity or heat from that organism
> moves into the organisms which are less active. The more active organisms
> or organisms with more life transfer their surplus to organisms which are
> less active and deficient of life. The healthy and active organisms
> automatically transfer health to the less active and less healthy
> organisms. The organisms are not in the deadly Darwinian war. They
> automatically help each other. Nature has constituted the symbiosis.
>
> Activity always is activity with perception in nature.Machines are not
> natural at all. They interfere in the automatic perception or thermal
> transfer. The whole activity among the organisms of the Biosphere is
> actually symbiotic perception and understanding. The Biosphere as one
> single organism is students helping students. Technology is disease for the
> Biosphere, ultimately the single organism.
>
> The basic law of Thermodynamics is the basic law of education to the
> Biosphere wherein all organisms enjoy and learn. Active molecules from the
> active organisms move into the less active organisms and thus distribute
> perception and understanding. In free nature where there is no human
> tampering, all organisms not only get health and strength, but also
> continuous education.
>
> The lifeline of education from nature, the continuous revelations laden
> education has been cut by our economic destruction. We are fooling not only
> ourselves but also every other organism. In fact we have diseasified the
> natural evolution. Evolution is actually education into higher levels by
> all organisms which mutate symbiotically. Natural evolution is the growth
> of the Biosphere with more education.
>
> It is growth with education and health where education and health are one
> and same. In free and healthy nature, nature makes you healthy
> continuously; in fact creating new mutations to keep you healthy. Your
> health is the result of the symbiosis among all organisms and also nature
> as Thermodynamics.
>
> The human has become the chronic disease of nature. The human has to take
> to self curing. The first step is to free economics from the mechanical
> paradigm and make ecology as the basic paradigm.
>
> Rene Descartes with his mechanical paradigm dealt the great death blow to
> nature. Darwin studied the Biosphere as the food chain, not as emotionally
> linked and symbiotic life forms. He actually ate every animal he
> researched. My God, the deadly ‘Ds’, Descartes, Darwin and Dawkins,have
> taken us all into the fanaticism of technology. The natural emotional
> symbiosis has been killed.
>
> And no University can get freedom from the frenzy for more and more
> technology or assaults on nature.
>
> YM
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