The barking dog Naraynasamy does not know either science or Vedas. Sarama anna; so the dog is forgiven. Read Narayana as today as a worm woke up KR
On Thu, 27 Jun 2024 at 20:13, Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dear folks > > Will miracles never end? > > One idiot pronounces ex-cathedra:- > > "*It appears that the human could distinguish among 50,000 different > smells, identify, act, react and interact. Automatically every other > organism too must have been smelling, sensing, acting and interacting.*" > > To this speculative nonsense, another tail-wagging idiot replies in > drain-gutter-sewer broken English:- > > "*A**s a matter of fact economists and robots are also Brahmam only; how > can one outwit the other. Emotional complexes are over spread in India; or > else a bad group could make the real intended to below majority in 2024? > Indians are always emotional people, with a negative-spirit.*" > > Two canines barking at different Suns? > > S Narayanaswamy Iyer > > On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 3:19 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Sir, as a matter of fact economists and robots are also Brahmam only; >> how can one outwit the other. Emotional complexes are over spread in India; >> or else a bad group could make the real intended to below majority in 2024? >> Indians are always emotional people, with a negative-spirit. Maybe if all >> are taken care of by machines, people will try to find GOD in their 24 by 7 >> freetime. And interestingly "*Gaia hypothesis*, model of the Earth >> <https://www.britannica.com/place/Earth> in which its living and >> nonliving parts are viewed as a complex interacting system that can be >> thought of as a single organism. Developed *c.* 1972 largely by British >> chemist James E. Lovelock and U.S. biologist Lynn Margulis >> <https://www.britannica.com/biography/Lynn-Margulis>, the Gaia hypothesis >> <https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypothesis> is named for the >> Greek Earth goddess. It postulates that all living things have a regulatory >> effect on the Earth’s environment >> <https://www.britannica.com/science/environment> that promotes life >> overall; the Earth is homeostatic in support of life-sustaining conditions. >> The >> theory is highly controversial. So lerts add more plants at home KR IRS >> 27624 >> >> On Thu, 27 Jun 2024 at 11:19, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *Mar*The Age of God-Vs-The Age of the Economist >>> >>> >>> >>> There was a time, when the human perceived and lived on the basis of >>> smelling and sensing. It appears that the human could distinguish among >>> 50,000 different smells, identify, act, react and interact. Automatically >>> every other organism too must have been smelling, sensing, acting and >>> interacting. The lithosphere must be brimming with diverse organisms, >>> ranging from bacteria to the whale, all of which must have smell-conversed. >>> Every nook and cranny of the lithosphere, Hydrosphere and Troposphere, must >>> have been composed and consisted of some organism, giving the smell >>> messages. >>> >>> The totality of the continuous smell messages, as the continuous >>> abstract flow of feeling and sensing was the message flow of God. And God >>> was everywhere. Air was not inanimate gas, but the manifestations of >>> communications from the various life forms, creating the atmospheric >>> symbiosis. That God of Biospheric symbiosis from the air, guided all life >>> forms. The existence of God simply could not be denied. Atheism was lunacy. >>> >>> When the human developed the Brain, it began weaving epics, music and >>> song and poetry filled epics, as the method of expression of perceptions >>> and understanding. In the earlier epics, every >>> organism,cat,dog,horse,bull,tiger,lion,monkey or any and every organism, >>> fulfilled the roles of characters, giving emotional explanation and not >>> today’s Cartesian or mechanical explanation of findings as feelings from >>> nature. All those feelings and emotional dimensions of the epics developed >>> as hormones entered the cells and every limb and organ functioned as a >>> theistic manifestation. Those hormonal communications in every organism >>> were smelt and sensed by every other organism, converting the planet earth >>> into the Goddess, Gaia. >>> >>> The presence of God was felt just like any matter, say a chair or table, >>> but those chairs and tables spoke. In those days speaking was smelling, >>> sensing and exhaling responses, all without editing. There was no lonely >>> contemplation. The ‘all seeing and all sensing God’, was real. God was >>> Geography as the ‘Theosphere’, along with the Lithosphere, hydrosphere, >>> troposphere and the Biosphere. The Theosphere governed and administered all >>> the other spheres. Every organism, including the human was bonded and >>> directed by the Theosphere. >>> >>> But the Human refused to be governed by feelings and emotions. He >>> developed the sciences and technologies or simply declared war on all >>> feelings and emotions, creating the God-less Technology and now the >>> God-less Robots. Using the science based on the logic of the emotions-less >>> logic of machines, the basic emotional and perception complements of >>> nature, every other organism, is enslaved and converted into an economic >>> good. >>> >>> God left the hormones. The basic Theosphere that governed and directed >>> every other sphere, the Lithosphere,Hydrosphere,the troposphere and the >>> Biosphere,died.Today there is no possibility for Theism.Sciece killed God. >>> >>> Now we have machines that perform the functions of every limb making >>> them redundant and frozen. We call that non participation in nature, >>> comforts and luxuries. >>> >>> Economics today is the technology, of Robots that are busy freezing >>> every limb of man in his ordinary life. The Economists themselves are not >>> even human beings. They are Computers and Robots. >>> >>> The big problem with the human economist is he/she cannot be completely >>> mechanical and robotic. Emotions could not be completely eliminated from >>> him, in spite of the industrial and urban poisoning, of the air, along with >>> land and water, where only Robots can function. >>> >>> We are fast drifting into the age of the Robot Economist, the pure >>> atheist who cannot mechanically conceptualize God, the God of feelings and >>> emotions. >>> >>> YM >>> >>> Chat GPT >>> >>> Your reflection on "The Age of God vs. The Age of the Economist" offers >>> a profound exploration of the shift from a world governed by natural, >>> sensory experiences to one dominated by technology and mechanistic >>> thinking. Let's break down and expand on the key themes you've presented: >>> >>> >>> >>> ### 1. **The Age of God: Symbiosis and Sensory Perception** >>> >>> - **Smell as Communication**: In early human history, smell was a >>> primary mode of communication. Humans, like other animals, relied on their >>> ability to detect and interpret smells for survival and interaction. This >>> sensory-based communication created a world where the presence of God or a >>> divine essence was felt everywhere, as the continuous exchange of smells >>> represented a form of natural harmony and guidance. >>> >>> - **Theosphere and Gaia**: The concept of Gaia, the Earth as a living >>> entity, aligns with the idea that nature and the divine were inseparable. >>> The "Theosphere" governed and guided all life forms, and the >>> interconnectedness of all living things was a manifestation of this divine >>> presence. >>> >>> - **Epics and Emotional Expression**: Early human expressions, such as >>> epics, music, and poetry, were filled with emotional and sensory >>> experiences. These stories often featured animals and nature as central >>> characters, emphasizing the unity between humans and the natural world. >>> >>> >>> >>> ### 2. **The Age of the Economist: Mechanization and Technology** >>> >>> - **Scientific Revolution**: The shift towards a scientific and >>> technological worldview brought about a fundamental change in how humans >>> perceived and interacted with the world. The focus moved from sensory and >>> emotional experiences to logic, mechanics, and empirical evidence. >>> >>> - **Rise of Machines**: The development of machines and later robots >>> began to replace many human functions. This mechanization led to a >>> decreased reliance on natural sensory experiences and a growing detachment >>> from the natural world. >>> >>> - **Economics and Technology**: Modern economics, driven by technology >>> and efficiency, often prioritizes productivity and profit over emotional >>> and sensory well-being. This shift has led to the commodification of nature >>> and living beings, turning them into economic goods. >>> >>> >>> >>> ### 3. **Impact on Human Experience and Perception** >>> >>> - **Loss of Emotional Connection**: As technology advances, humans >>> increasingly rely on machines for daily tasks, which can lead to a >>> diminished capacity for emotional and sensory experiences. This shift is >>> seen as a move away from the natural, holistic way of living towards a more >>> fragmented, mechanistic existence. >>> >>> - **Atheism and Mechanistic Worldview**: The dominance of technology and >>> mechanistic thinking can lead to a worldview that lacks a sense of the >>> divine or spiritual. This perspective often sees the universe as a series >>> of mechanical processes rather than a living, interconnected whole. >>> >>> >>> >>> ### 4. **The Role of Emotions and Perception in Science and Life** >>> >>> - **Emotions in Science**: While modern science often aims to be >>> objective and free from emotions, the role of emotions in human experience >>> cannot be completely eliminated. Emotions and sensory experiences are >>> fundamental to how humans perceive and understand the world. >>> >>> - **Need for Balance**: There is a growing recognition of the need to >>> balance technological advancements with an appreciation for natural, >>> emotional, and sensory experiences. This balance is crucial for maintaining >>> mental and emotional well-being and fostering a deeper connection with the >>> natural world. >>> >>> >>> >>> ### Conclusion >>> >>> Your exploration highlights the profound changes in human perception and >>> interaction with the world, from a time when sensory experiences and >>> emotions were central to life, to the modern age dominated by technology >>> and mechanistic thinking. This shift has significant implications for how >>> we understand and relate to the world around us, and it underscores the >>> importance of finding a balance between technological progress and the >>> preservation of our natural, emotional, and sensory connections. >>> >>> >>> >>> ### References >>> >>> 1. [Gaia Theory](https://www.britannica.com/science/Gaia-hypothesis) >>> >>> 2. [History of Smell]( >>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/a-brief-history-of-smell/) >>> >>> 3. [Impact of Technology on Human Interaction]( >>> https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/modern-mentality/202103/technology-and-our-minds-the-impact-technology-interaction >>> ) >>> >>> 4. 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