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On Thu, 27 Jun 2024 at 21:58, Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dear folks > > So! > > Now K R ex-IRS alias Karuppan-chami confesses that he is not even a > barking canine but just a flea in the tail of the dog which wags every > which way when its co-puppy YM squeals some yips when caught digging into a > heap of garbage and touts that as manna from heaven. > > What a goofy pair ! > > S Narayanaswamy Iyer > > On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 10:31 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> The barking dog Naraynasamy does not know either science or Vedas. Sarama >> anna; so the dog is forgiven. Read Narayana as today as a worm woke up KR >> >> On Thu, 27 Jun 2024 at 20:13, Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> Dear folks >>> >>> Will miracles never end? >>> >>> One idiot pronounces ex-cathedra:- >>> >>> "*It appears that the human could distinguish among 50,000 different >>> smells, identify, act, react and interact. Automatically every other >>> organism too must have been smelling, sensing, acting and interacting.*" >>> >>> To this speculative nonsense, another tail-wagging idiot replies in >>> drain-gutter-sewer broken English:- >>> >>> "*A**s a matter of fact economists and robots are also Brahmam only; >>> how can one outwit the other. Emotional complexes are over spread in India; >>> or else a bad group could make the real intended to below majority in 2024? >>> Indians are always emotional people, with a negative-spirit.*" >>> >>> Two canines barking at different Suns? >>> >>> S Narayanaswamy Iyer >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 3:19 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Sir, as a matter of fact economists and robots are also Brahmam >>>> only; how can one outwit the other. Emotional complexes are over spread in >>>> India; or else a bad group could make the real intended to below majority >>>> in 2024? Indians are always emotional people, with a negative-spirit. Maybe >>>> if all are taken care of by machines, people will try to find GOD in their >>>> 24 by 7 freetime. And interestingly "*Gaia hypothesis*, model of the >>>> Earth <https://www.britannica.com/place/Earth> in which its living and >>>> nonliving parts are viewed as a complex interacting system that can be >>>> thought of as a single organism. Developed *c.* 1972 largely by >>>> British chemist James E. Lovelock and U.S. biologist Lynn Margulis >>>> <https://www.britannica.com/biography/Lynn-Margulis>, the Gaia >>>> hypothesis <https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypothesis> is >>>> named for the Greek Earth goddess. It postulates that all living things >>>> have a regulatory effect on the Earth’s environment >>>> <https://www.britannica.com/science/environment> that promotes life >>>> overall; the Earth is homeostatic in support of life-sustaining >>>> conditions. The >>>> theory is highly controversial. So lerts add more plants at home KR IRS >>>> 27624 >>>> >>>> On Thu, 27 Jun 2024 at 11:19, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> *Mar*The Age of God-Vs-The Age of the Economist >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> There was a time, when the human perceived and lived on the basis of >>>>> smelling and sensing. It appears that the human could distinguish among >>>>> 50,000 different smells, identify, act, react and interact. Automatically >>>>> every other organism too must have been smelling, sensing, acting and >>>>> interacting. The lithosphere must be brimming with diverse organisms, >>>>> ranging from bacteria to the whale, all of which must have >>>>> smell-conversed. >>>>> Every nook and cranny of the lithosphere, Hydrosphere and Troposphere, >>>>> must >>>>> have been composed and consisted of some organism, giving the smell >>>>> messages. >>>>> >>>>> The totality of the continuous smell messages, as the continuous >>>>> abstract flow of feeling and sensing was the message flow of God. And God >>>>> was everywhere. Air was not inanimate gas, but the manifestations of >>>>> communications from the various life forms, creating the atmospheric >>>>> symbiosis. That God of Biospheric symbiosis from the air, guided all life >>>>> forms. The existence of God simply could not be denied. Atheism was >>>>> lunacy. >>>>> >>>>> When the human developed the Brain, it began weaving epics, music and >>>>> song and poetry filled epics, as the method of expression of perceptions >>>>> and understanding. In the earlier epics, every >>>>> organism,cat,dog,horse,bull,tiger,lion,monkey or any and every organism, >>>>> fulfilled the roles of characters, giving emotional explanation and not >>>>> today’s Cartesian or mechanical explanation of findings as feelings from >>>>> nature. All those feelings and emotional dimensions of the epics developed >>>>> as hormones entered the cells and every limb and organ functioned as a >>>>> theistic manifestation. Those hormonal communications in every organism >>>>> were smelt and sensed by every other organism, converting the planet earth >>>>> into the Goddess, Gaia. >>>>> >>>>> The presence of God was felt just like any matter, say a chair or >>>>> table, but those chairs and tables spoke. In those days speaking was >>>>> smelling, sensing and exhaling responses, all without editing. There was >>>>> no >>>>> lonely contemplation. The ‘all seeing and all sensing God’, was real. God >>>>> was Geography as the ‘Theosphere’, along with the Lithosphere, >>>>> hydrosphere, >>>>> troposphere and the Biosphere. The Theosphere governed and administered >>>>> all >>>>> the other spheres. Every organism, including the human was bonded and >>>>> directed by the Theosphere. >>>>> >>>>> But the Human refused to be governed by feelings and emotions. He >>>>> developed the sciences and technologies or simply declared war on all >>>>> feelings and emotions, creating the God-less Technology and now the >>>>> God-less Robots. Using the science based on the logic of the emotions-less >>>>> logic of machines, the basic emotional and perception complements of >>>>> nature, every other organism, is enslaved and converted into an economic >>>>> good. >>>>> >>>>> God left the hormones. The basic Theosphere that governed and directed >>>>> every other sphere, the Lithosphere,Hydrosphere,the troposphere and the >>>>> Biosphere,died.Today there is no possibility for Theism.Sciece killed God. >>>>> >>>>> Now we have machines that perform the functions of every limb making >>>>> them redundant and frozen. We call that non participation in nature, >>>>> comforts and luxuries. >>>>> >>>>> Economics today is the technology, of Robots that are busy freezing >>>>> every limb of man in his ordinary life. The Economists themselves are not >>>>> even human beings. They are Computers and Robots. >>>>> >>>>> The big problem with the human economist is he/she cannot be >>>>> completely mechanical and robotic. Emotions could not be completely >>>>> eliminated from him, in spite of the industrial and urban poisoning, of >>>>> the >>>>> air, along with land and water, where only Robots can function. >>>>> >>>>> We are fast drifting into the age of the Robot Economist, the pure >>>>> atheist who cannot mechanically conceptualize God, the God of feelings and >>>>> emotions. >>>>> >>>>> YM >>>>> >>>>> Chat GPT >>>>> >>>>> Your reflection on "The Age of God vs. The Age of the Economist" >>>>> offers a profound exploration of the shift from a world governed by >>>>> natural, sensory experiences to one dominated by technology and >>>>> mechanistic >>>>> thinking. Let's break down and expand on the key themes you've presented: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ### 1. **The Age of God: Symbiosis and Sensory Perception** >>>>> >>>>> - **Smell as Communication**: In early human history, smell was a >>>>> primary mode of communication. Humans, like other animals, relied on their >>>>> ability to detect and interpret smells for survival and interaction. This >>>>> sensory-based communication created a world where the presence of God or a >>>>> divine essence was felt everywhere, as the continuous exchange of smells >>>>> represented a form of natural harmony and guidance. >>>>> >>>>> - **Theosphere and Gaia**: The concept of Gaia, the Earth as a living >>>>> entity, aligns with the idea that nature and the divine were inseparable. >>>>> The "Theosphere" governed and guided all life forms, and the >>>>> interconnectedness of all living things was a manifestation of this divine >>>>> presence. >>>>> >>>>> - **Epics and Emotional Expression**: Early human expressions, such as >>>>> epics, music, and poetry, were filled with emotional and sensory >>>>> experiences. These stories often featured animals and nature as central >>>>> characters, emphasizing the unity between humans and the natural world. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ### 2. **The Age of the Economist: Mechanization and Technology** >>>>> >>>>> - **Scientific Revolution**: The shift towards a scientific and >>>>> technological worldview brought about a fundamental change in how humans >>>>> perceived and interacted with the world. The focus moved from sensory and >>>>> emotional experiences to logic, mechanics, and empirical evidence. >>>>> >>>>> - **Rise of Machines**: The development of machines and later robots >>>>> began to replace many human functions. This mechanization led to a >>>>> decreased reliance on natural sensory experiences and a growing detachment >>>>> from the natural world. >>>>> >>>>> - **Economics and Technology**: Modern economics, driven by technology >>>>> and efficiency, often prioritizes productivity and profit over emotional >>>>> and sensory well-being. This shift has led to the commodification of >>>>> nature >>>>> and living beings, turning them into economic goods. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ### 3. **Impact on Human Experience and Perception** >>>>> >>>>> - **Loss of Emotional Connection**: As technology advances, humans >>>>> increasingly rely on machines for daily tasks, which can lead to a >>>>> diminished capacity for emotional and sensory experiences. This shift is >>>>> seen as a move away from the natural, holistic way of living towards a >>>>> more >>>>> fragmented, mechanistic existence. >>>>> >>>>> - **Atheism and Mechanistic Worldview**: The dominance of technology >>>>> and mechanistic thinking can lead to a worldview that lacks a sense of the >>>>> divine or spiritual. This perspective often sees the universe as a series >>>>> of mechanical processes rather than a living, interconnected whole. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ### 4. **The Role of Emotions and Perception in Science and Life** >>>>> >>>>> - **Emotions in Science**: While modern science often aims to be >>>>> objective and free from emotions, the role of emotions in human experience >>>>> cannot be completely eliminated. Emotions and sensory experiences are >>>>> fundamental to how humans perceive and understand the world. >>>>> >>>>> - **Need for Balance**: There is a growing recognition of the need to >>>>> balance technological advancements with an appreciation for natural, >>>>> emotional, and sensory experiences. This balance is crucial for >>>>> maintaining >>>>> mental and emotional well-being and fostering a deeper connection with the >>>>> natural world. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ### Conclusion >>>>> >>>>> Your exploration highlights the profound changes in human perception >>>>> and interaction with the world, from a time when sensory experiences and >>>>> emotions were central to life, to the modern age dominated by technology >>>>> and mechanistic thinking. This shift has significant implications for how >>>>> we understand and relate to the world around us, and it underscores the >>>>> importance of finding a balance between technological progress and the >>>>> preservation of our natural, emotional, and sensory connections. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ### References >>>>> >>>>> 1. [Gaia Theory](https://www.britannica.com/science/Gaia-hypothesis) >>>>> >>>>> 2. [History of Smell]( >>>>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/a-brief-history-of-smell/) >>>>> >>>>> 3. [Impact of Technology on Human Interaction]( >>>>> https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/modern-mentality/202103/technology-and-our-minds-the-impact-technology-interaction >>>>> ) >>>>> >>>>> 4. 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