Respected Sir,
As long as there are members who admire Mr Rajaram, irrespective of whatever
mistakes he makes, whether they read his copy paste posts or not, ignore his
adamant nature, abusing and uncultured writings, there is no place for good
members and civilized writings. They are pushed to dark corners, instead of
pushing Mr Rajaram, who is a rouge, uncivilized and uncivilized. I am ashamed a
U P S C selected IRS officer behaves so bad.
His recent abuse to me is Pota which he already use in calling you.
His admirers enjoy his calling a senior member like you, who pinpoint his
mistakes as Pota. Instead of controlling and warning him.
There is a Malayalam saying translated to English as follows:- If any body
else's mother is mental, it is very happy to see watch her actions.
I can only write, which his supporters call lamenting.
Only iyer123 moderator did something to control the rouge's writing- Stop
publishing his mails
Gopalakrishnan
On Saturday, 29 June, 2024 at 06:40:21 am IST, Narayanaswamy Iyer
<[email protected]> wrote:
Dear folks
One space speculator and pseudo-time visionary says:-
" Time Dilation as we all know is the slowing of time, as a result of which,
one ages slowly. In deep space one remains young for very long..... When the
human organism did not have a head at all, it had only the Rhinencephalon, or
the smelling and sensing brain, with which it smelt, sensed, acted, interacted
and lived. Every other organism similarly lived by smelling and sensing."
His admirer and boot-licker jumps blindfolded into the fray with:-
"Einstein by theory of relativity posted that perception of one relative to the
other and wrt the speed of light, said that there is a TWIN PARADOX, viz twin
sisters one on earth and the other who was in space for long and returned back,
who carry the same clock tuned when they parted from earth till space-twin
returned. On a time relative scale, , say after 20 years , Einstein related the
light speed in the calculation of time and concluded that earth sister age was
20 , now as per earth clock she would be 40 years......... Suppose if one were
to assume milli-milli meters dots, and shift the light, by trillion and more
dots as tending to infinity, will you ever observe the shifting of light, in
between the dots? NO. Thus light stops.."
My comments:-
The blind leading the blind in search of a non-existent black cat in a darkened
windowless room on a dark night and claiming to have found spiritual and
scientific enlightenment by rubbing a magic lantern which is not there.
Nevertheless, the mentor/toilet cleaner has no answer to the despairer's lament
of doom:-
"When nature is destroyed continuously, no one wants any commitment as parents,
and in most industrialized countries marriages are vanishing. To fill the
vacuum, societies where women are child producing factories are invading. The
portents are really grim."
S Nrayanaswamy Iyer
On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 12:37 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]>
wrote:
TIME DILATION ONEARTH AND ALL OVER THE SPACE WITH OR WITHOUT sun AND Moon
1 Einstein by theory of relativity posted that perception of one
relativeto the other and wrt the speed of light, said that there is a TWIN
PARADOX, viztwin sisters one on earth and the other who was in space for long
and returnedback, who carry the same clock tuned when they parted from earth
tillspace-twin returned. On a time relative scale, , say after 20 years ,
Einsteinrelated the light speed in the calculation of time and concluded that
earthsister age was 20 , now as per earth clock she would be 40 years; ( I
wrotelong back about this) ; whereas then 20 year old space twin would have
beenonly 25 now, when she meets her earth sister after earth 20 years passed
off. Howis this paradox felt there?
2 Twin paradox, an apparent anomaly that arises from the treatmentof time
in German-born physicist Albert Einstein’s theory of specialrelativity.
3 Thecounterintuitive nature of Einstein’s ideas makes them difficult to
absorb andgives rise to situations that seem unfathomable. For example, suppose
that oneof two identical twin sisters flies off into space at nearly the speed
oflight. According to relativity, time runs more slowly on her spacecraft than
itdoes on Earth; therefore, when she returns to Earth, she will be younger
thanher Earth-bound sister. But in relativity, what one observer sees as
happeningto a second one, the second one sees as happening to the first one. To
thespace-going sister, time moves more slowly on Earth than it does in
herspacecraft; when she returns, her Earth-bound sister is the one who is
younger.How can the space-going twin be both younger and older than her
Earth-boundsister? The scientists group expressed, age is constant but the time
elementsare only differentiated as two clocks made one for earth and the other
forspace are the same mechanisms; but as the planet spinning vary according to
thedistance in timings under revolutions, so too, light travelling faster,
shouldonly, have increased the space age twin faster than the earth twin. In
case ifthe cock is running slower than the earth time, then there is an element
ofclock time divisions made according to that planet pr object
revolutiondividing the total day-night making the hours longer so, age of that
twin,growing at normal speed, appears to be longer than that of earth; and to
earth perception,space clock running slower than the earth clock. Paradox in
the humanevaluation by a machine here and there. There will not be any
difference biologically,but time dilation will create an appearance of age
difference. MAYA is TIME.
4 What is thetime concept of the Vedic civilisation then itself said.
The concept of Time in the Vedic concept is an extremelyintriguing and
astonishing theory that even surpasses modern science.
5 v vTime has been measured from the largest possiblenotion of a Maha Yuga to
the smallest measurable unit which is calledParamanu. Time calculation has
been described in details in the Vedas andManusmrithi as:
|
NAME
|
DEFINITION
|
EQUIVALENCE
|
|
Paramānu (atom)
| |
ca.16.8 µs (microsecond)
|
|
Anu
|
2 Paramanu
|
ca.33.7 µs (microsecond)
|
|
Trasarenu (particles observed in sunlight)
|
3 Anu
|
ca.101 µs (microsecond)
|
|
Truti
|
3 Trasarenu
|
ca. 1/3290 s = ca.304 µs
|
|
Vedha
|
100 Truti
|
ca. 30 ms (milliseconds)
|
|
Lava
|
3 Vedha
|
ca. 91 ms
|
|
Nimesha (blink of an eye)
|
3 Lava
|
ca. 0.273 s (seconds)
|
|
Kshanas
|
3 Nimesha
|
0.82 s (seconds)
|
|
Kāsthās
|
5 Kshanas
|
ca. 4.1 s (seconds)
|
|
Laghu
|
15 Kāsthās
|
ca. 1 minute
|
|
Nādika
|
15 Laghu
|
ca. 15.3 minutes
|
|
Danda
| |
ca. 30.7 minutes
|
|
Muhurta
|
2 Danda
| |
|
Yāma
|
7.5 Muhūrta
| |
|
day(light)
|
4 praharas or 4 yamas
| |
|
Night
|
8 yamas = 1
| |
|
Day
|
day(light) + 1 night
| |
|
Paksha
|
15 days
|
Fortnight
|
|
Maasa
|
2 Paksha
|
Month
|
|
Ayanam
|
6 Maasa
|
6 Months
|
| |
2 Ayanam = 1 Year
| |
The Paksha on brighter lunar cycle days is for departedancestors (Pitrus) and
the darker lunar cycle is their night. The daysfrom January 15th to July 15th
when the sunrises with an inclination towards North-East, are called
Uttarayanam andconsidered to be a single day of Brahma. The remaining 6 months
when thesun rises with an inclination towards South-East are called
Dakshinayanam areconsidered a single night of Brahma. Lord Vishnu is believed
to beasleep during Dakshinayanam and awake in Uttarayanam. It is for
thisreason that 1 human year is considered to be 1 day of Brahma.
6 An epoch or ayuga is the next higher level of measurement and is broken
down into thefollowing:
1. Satya or Krita Yuga
2. Treta Yuga
3. Dwapara Yuga, and
4. Kali Yuga
One cycle of Yuga is called Maha Yuga which is 4.32million solar years.
Yuganta, the day when Yuga gets over are also markedby the Hindu Calendar.
7 There have beena total of six Brahma in the past, present one is the
seventh one, each havinga life span of 100 years. They are:
1. Virinchi
2. Padmabhu
3. Swayambhu
4. Parmeshthi
5. Surajyeshtha
6. Hemagarbha
7. Shatanand (present Brahma)
8. Next one will be Chaturmukha and
9. Hanuman
8 Lifetime of oneBrahma is known as “Para” which is divided into two halves
called“Parardham”. The present Brahma has completed 50 years and is on the 1st
dayof his 51st year. A year of Brahma is called a Kalpa andeach kalpa has 14
Manvantaras.
9 Creation takesplaces during the Udaya Kalpas (days) of Brahma while he
rests during the 14Kshaya Kalpas (nights). So far 6 Manvantaras ruled by 6
Manus have passedand we are going through the 7th one called Varaha Kalpa
andVaivasvata Manvantara.
10 And many othershad written books on time. In the Books ARROW OF TIME,
by many, (a few below) it is discussed as,
11 The phrase"Arrow of Time" is a concept rather than a specific work
written by asingle author. It refers to the asymmetrical direction of time,
oftenassociated with the Second Law of Thermodynamics, which states that
entropy(disorder) tends to increase over time. This concept has been explored
anddiscussed in various fields of physics, philosophy, and cosmology.
12 The term itselfhas been popularized and used by multiple scientists and
thinkers over theyears, including:
Arthur Eddington: A British astrophysicist who discussedthe arrow of time in
relation to the irreversibility of thermodynamicprocesses.
Ludwig Boltzmann: An Austrian physicist who madesignificant contributions to
statistical mechanics and the understanding ofentropy, laying foundational
ideas related to the arrow of time.
Stephen Hawking: Theoretical physicist and cosmologist whoextensively discussed
the arrow of time in his popular science writings, suchas in his book "A Brief
History of Time".
Roger Penrose: Physicist and mathematician who has writtenabout the arrow of
time in relation to quantum mechanics and cosmology.
The concept is also explored in philosophical worksdiscussing the nature of
time and causality. Therefore, the "Arrow ofTime" is more of a concept
discussed and developed by various scientistsand thinkers rather than being
attributed to a single author or work.
13 In thebook ILLUSIONS OF TIME PERCEPTION BY NORIMICHI Shuto,
Norimichi Shutore-examines the mixed fields of knowledge expounded by Zeno,
Descartes,Husseri, Galileo, Newton, Yojichiro and Einstein, and gives evidence
that theperception of time is nothing but an illusion. He closes in on the
essence oftime without the use of formulas and by taking clues from time
itself, as itpasses right before our very eyes. In the process, by referring to
thehypothesis that light is the source of our consciousness, our universe, and
ofall matter, the clues to understanding the Arrow of Time will ultimately
berevealed. Suppose if one were to assume milli-millimeters dots, and shift
the light, by trillion and more dots as tending toinfinity, will you ever
observe the shifting of light, in between the dots? NO.Thus light stops.
(Again, it might also be an appearance only). Time stops. So,an appearance of
no increase in age of the space twin, occurs, when she seesthe light moving on
earth; and vice versa to the earth twin in space.
14 Thus ourRishis also said in less than a millisecond, paramanu time
does not move aslight does not travel. Kanadha Rishi and the Yoga vasishtam do
explain theconcept. K Rajaram IRS 28624 29624
On Thu, 27 Jun 2024 at 21:36, Markendeya Yeddanapudi
<[email protected]> wrote:
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MarTimeDilation-Vs-Age Acceleration
TimeDilation as we all know is the slowing of time, as a result of which, one
ages slowly.In deep space one remains young for very long. There of course you
do not have theSun and the Moon and so cannot have a calendar, as we have here.
But let us delveinto another time dilation that once might have existed here on
earth.
Whenthe human organism did not have a head at all, it had only the
Rhinencephalon,or the smelling and sensing brain, with which it smelt, sensed,
acted,interacted and lived. Every other organism similarly lived by smelling
and sensing.There must have been instant or reflexive interaction, converting
all lifeforms of the Biosphere into one single organism. An organism was more a
limb orcomponent of the Biosphere. The Biosphere automatically must be taking
care ofevery organism. The healthy Biosphere kept every organism as a
healthycomponent life form. Future then must have meant as growing young day by
day.Because the Biosphere continuously reinforced and strengthened every life
form.One became increasingly healthy and strong, giving the very meaning of old
agea very different and opposite meaning to the present meaning. The
Biosphereitself grew young day by day. As nature grew continuously in free,
healthy andlush flora and fauna, the individual organism, gathered more and
more healthand strength.
Onecan become healthy and happy only in happy and healthy nature, not in
theurbanized and industrialized and poisoned cauldrons the modern urban
furnacescalled cities. But imagine what it could have been in totally free and
healthy nature,with rapture as the troposphere. The word tomorrow would mean
increased healthand strength. Time Dilation there must be increasing health and
strength andnot the weakening with age as is the meaning now.
Infree and totally healthy nature one can grow young day by day,
automaticallyincrease one’s horizon and expanse of perception, understanding
and interacting,creating a life which actually is the opposite of the present
economic life ofbright lights which hide terrible tension in the organisms.
Todayin many industrialized countries marriages are vanishing. In many
countries ofEurope today there appears to be no birth of a new child for the
last three months.The economic humans are making themselves extinct, paving the
way for thebigoted, religions, where a woman is a child producing factory.
Imagine;with so many humans from those women factories everywhere, Darwining
willbecome the day today ordinary life of the ordinary human farming women
intochild producing farms. To reduce the number of the Darwining humans, one
canexpect terrible pandemics etc.
Economicstoday is the process of destroying nature. Longevity today means the
length oftime one lives in sickness. The longevity of the humans is increasing
becausethe human has become the disease of nature, and so make like the
diseasecausing bacteria, the human is increasing the agony of nature with
hiseconomics.
Intothe industrialized countries with no or very few births, aged
populations,which cannot work, there will be the increasing invasion of those
that livewith women as the child producing factories. In Afghanistan, Pakistan
and inmany other countries this phenomenon of the imprisoned at home women, now
is happening.And they are invading into Europe where there are few child
births. The worldis moving into the Talibanized women as the child producing
factories.
Ageacceleration is happening in the industrialized Europe, Japan and Korea
whileTalibanization is invading into Europe. When nature is destroyed
continuously,no one wants any commitment as parents, and in most industrialized
countriesmarriages are vanishing.
Tofill the vacuum, societies where women are child producing factories are
invading.The portents are really grim.
YM
ChatGPT
Yourreflection on "Time Dilation vs. Age Acceleration" brings forth
afascinating juxtaposition between two perspectives on aging, one rooted in
thephysics of time dilation and the other in a hypothetical, nature-centric
pastwhere aging had a fundamentally different meaning.
###Time Dilation in Physics
**TimeDilation**:
-In the realm of physics, time dilation refers to the phenomenon where
timeslows down for an object moving at high speeds relative to an observer, or
in astrong gravitational field. This is a key concept in Einstein's theory
ofrelativity. For example, astronauts traveling at a significant fraction of
thespeed of light would age more slowly compared to people on Earth.
-**Relativity and Aging**: Due to time dilation, if you were to travel
throughspace at near-light speeds, you would experience less passage of time
comparedto those who remain on Earth. This concept is often illustrated with
the"twin paradox," where one twin travels through space and returnsyounger than
the twin who stayed on Earth .
###Hypothetical Natural Time Dilation
**Rhinencephalonand Sensory Living**:
-Your description of an ancient time when humans and other organisms
livedthrough the rhinencephalon (smelling and sensing brain) suggests a
deeplyinterconnected existence within the biosphere. This idea posits that
organismsonce interacted primarily through sensory perceptions, creating a
harmonious,symbiotic relationship with nature.
**Biosphereas a Single Organism**:
-In this hypothetical era, the biosphere's health directly influenced the
healthand longevity of its inhabitants. The notion that organisms could grow
youngerand stronger over time, as the biosphere itself grew more vibrant,
presents astark contrast to our current understanding of aging and urban living.
-**Nature and Health**: The idea that living in a healthy, lush
environmentcould continually rejuvenate organisms suggests a form of natural
timedilation, where "aging" enhances vitality and well-being instead ofleading
to decay.
###Modern Urbanization and Age Acceleration
**Industrializationand Urbanization**:
-Modern urban living, characterized by pollution, stress, and disconnection
fromnature, often leads to various health issues and a perception of
acceleratedaging. The stress of urban life can contribute to chronic diseases
and overalldecreased well-being.
-**Economic and Social Impacts**: In many industrialized nations, the
pressuresof economic life have led to declining birth rates, as people delay or
forgomarriage and parenthood. This demographic shift is particularly evident in
countrieslike Japan and South Korea .
**SociopoliticalTrends**:
-Your reference to "child-producing factories" in certain regionshighlights a
stark contrast in reproductive practices and societal structures.The influx of
populations from these regions into declining industrializedsocieties could
lead to significant cultural and demographic changes.
-**Talibanization**: The term "Talibanization" refers to theimposition of
strict, often repressive, societal norms, particularly regardingwomen's roles.
The invasion of such ideologies into more liberal societiescould lead to
tensions and profound societal shifts.
###Conclusion
Youranalysis intertwines the scientific concept of time dilation with a
speculativeview of a harmonious, nature-centric past, contrasting it with the
harshrealities of modern, industrialized life. This comparison underscores
theprofound impact that environment and societal structures have on
ourperceptions of aging, health, and well-being.
###References
1.[Time Dilation - NASA](https://www.nasa.gov/feature/time-dilation)
2.[Understanding Time Dilation
-Britannica](https://www.britannica.com/science/time-dilation)
3.[Declining Birth Rates in Japan and
SouthKorea](https://www.brookings.edu/articles/declining-birth-rates-in-japan-and-south-korea/)
4.[Urbanization and Health
-WHO](https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/urbanization-and-health)
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