The old senile Narayana had written so long unmeaningful, unsuccessful, meaningless, ineffective, unproductive, words of his gutter as a defense liar, Goebel on the anvil and why do you people lack courage to ask him what nonsense? KR
On Sat, 29 Jun 2024 at 19:58, Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> wrote: > \ > dear folks > > Another excellent example of a public display of bipolar mental disorder, > when > K R ex-IRS 30624 alias Karuppan-chaami swallows, wholesale and undigested, > absolute garbage stuffed down his throat by his beloved lap-puppy which > specialises in esoteric concocted trash. > > By an unschooled, unlearned, uneducated former toilet-cleaner and > floor-mopper at IRS Red Dogtown, a coolie far below a peon (by which > honorific he recklessly calls Sri Gopalakrishnan). > > By a coolie who has lost his dripping-wet torn towel and has to scrub the > floor of the IRS office in Red Dogtown with his bare hands. > > S Narayanaswamy Iyer > > On Sun, Jun 30, 2024 at 12:47 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Narayana mundam, are you so bad at knowing how? All your people say you >> are that and this; but in 2 decades i never saw you write anything worth >> other than the meaningless abuses always about others; and I wonder why all >> tolerate you; I thought so for you are zero in our scriptures though >> pretending to be a scholarly; but today you proved by writing on the time >> dilation, YOU ARE A BIG ZERO IN SCIENCE ALSO. Why you want to exist and >> blabber? KR >> >> On Fri, 28 Jun 2024 at 20:10, Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> Dear folks >>> >>> One space speculator and pseudo-time visionary says:- >>> >>> "* Time Dilation as we all know is the slowing of time, as a result of >>> which, one ages slowly. In deep space one remains young for very long.....* >>> *When the human organism did not have a head at all, it had only the >>> Rhinencephalon, or the smelling and sensing brain, with which it smelt, >>> sensed, acted, interacted and lived. Every other organism similarly lived >>> by smelling and sensing.*" >>> >>> His admirer and boot-licker jumps blindfolded into the fray with:- >>> >>> "*Einstein by theory of relativity posted that perception of one >>> relative to the other and wrt the speed of light, said that there is a TWIN >>> PARADOX, viz twin sisters one on earth and the other who was in space for >>> long and returned back, who carry the same clock tuned when they parted >>> from earth till space-twin returned. On a time relative scale, , say after >>> 20 years , Einstein related the light speed in the calculation of time and >>> concluded that earth sister age was 20 , now as per earth clock she would >>> be 40 years......... **Suppose if one were to assume milli-milli meters >>> dots, and shift the light, by trillion and more dots as tending to >>> infinity, will you ever observe the shifting of light, in between the dots? >>> NO. Thus light stops.**.*" >>> >>> My comments:- >>> >>> The blind leading the blind in search of a non-existent black cat in a >>> darkened windowless room on a dark night and claiming to have found >>> spiritual and scientific enlightenment by rubbing a magic lantern which is >>> not there. >>> >>> Nevertheless, the mentor/toilet cleaner has no answer to the despairer's >>> lament of doom:- >>> >>> "*When nature is destroyed continuously, no one wants any commitment as >>> parents, and in most industrialized countries marriages are vanishing. >>> **To >>> fill the vacuum, societies where women are child producing factories are >>> invading. The portents are **really grim."* >>> >>> >>> S Nrayanaswamy Iyer >>> >>> On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 12:37 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> TIME DILATION ON EARTH AND ALL OVER THE SPACE WITH OR WITHOUT sun AND >>>> Moon >>>> >>>> 1 Einstein by theory of relativity posted that perception of >>>> one relative to the other and wrt the speed of light, said that there is a >>>> TWIN PARADOX, viz twin sisters one on earth and the other who was in space >>>> for long and returned back, who carry the same clock tuned when they parted >>>> from earth till space-twin returned. On a time relative scale, , say after >>>> 20 years , Einstein related the light speed in the calculation of time and >>>> concluded that earth sister age was 20 , now as per earth clock she would >>>> be 40 years; ( I wrote long back about this) ; whereas then 20 year old >>>> space twin would have been only 25 now, when she meets her earth sister >>>> after earth 20 years passed off. How is this paradox felt there? >>>> >>>> 2 Twin paradox, an apparent anomaly that arises from the >>>> treatment of time in German-born physicist Albert Einstein’s theory of >>>> special relativity. >>>> >>>> 3 The counterintuitive nature of Einstein’s ideas makes them >>>> difficult to absorb and gives rise to situations that seem unfathomable. >>>> For example, suppose that one of two identical twin sisters flies off into >>>> space at nearly the speed of light. According to relativity, time runs more >>>> slowly on her spacecraft than it does on Earth; therefore, when she returns >>>> to Earth, she will be younger than her Earth-bound sister. But in >>>> relativity, what one observer sees as happening to a second one, the second >>>> one sees as happening to the first one. To the space-going sister, time >>>> moves more slowly on Earth than it does in her spacecraft; when she >>>> returns, her Earth-bound sister is the one who is younger. How can the >>>> space-going twin be both younger and older than her Earth-bound sister? The >>>> scientists group expressed, age is constant but the time elements are only >>>> differentiated as two clocks made one for earth and the other for space are >>>> the same mechanisms; but as the planet spinning vary according to the >>>> distance in timings under revolutions, so too, light travelling faster, >>>> should only, have increased the space age twin faster than the earth twin. >>>> In case if the cock is running slower than the earth time, then there is an >>>> element of clock time divisions made according to that planet pr object >>>> revolution dividing the total day-night making the hours longer so, age of >>>> that twin, growing at normal speed, appears to be longer than that of >>>> earth; and to earth perception, space clock running slower than the earth >>>> clock. Paradox in the human evaluation by a machine here and there. There >>>> will not be any difference biologically, but time dilation will create an >>>> appearance of age difference. MAYA is TIME. >>>> >>>> 4 What is the time concept of the Vedic civilisation then itself >>>> said. >>>> >>>> The concept of Time in the Vedic concept is an extremely intriguing and >>>> astonishing theory that even surpasses modern science. >>>> >>>> 5 v vTime has been measured from the largest possible notion of a Maha >>>> Yuga to the smallest measurable unit which is called Paramanu. Time >>>> calculation has been described in details in the Vedas and Manusmrithi as: >>>> >>>> *NAME* >>>> >>>> *DEFINITION* >>>> >>>> *EQUIVALENCE* >>>> >>>> Paramānu (atom) >>>> >>>> ca.16.8 µs (microsecond) >>>> >>>> Anu >>>> >>>> 2 Paramanu >>>> >>>> ca.33.7 µs (microsecond) >>>> >>>> Trasarenu (particles observed in sunlight) >>>> >>>> 3 Anu >>>> >>>> ca.101 µs (microsecond) >>>> >>>> Truti >>>> >>>> 3 Trasarenu >>>> >>>> ca. 1/3290 s = ca.304 µs >>>> >>>> Vedha >>>> >>>> 100 Truti >>>> >>>> ca. 30 ms (milliseconds) >>>> >>>> Lava >>>> >>>> 3 Vedha >>>> >>>> ca. 91 ms >>>> >>>> Nimesha (blink of an eye) >>>> >>>> 3 Lava >>>> >>>> ca. 0.273 s (seconds) >>>> >>>> Kshanas >>>> >>>> 3 Nimesha >>>> >>>> 0.82 s (seconds) >>>> >>>> Kāsthās >>>> >>>> 5 Kshanas >>>> >>>> ca. 4.1 s (seconds) >>>> >>>> Laghu >>>> >>>> 15 Kāsthās >>>> >>>> ca. 1 minute >>>> >>>> Nādika >>>> >>>> 15 Laghu >>>> >>>> ca. 15.3 minutes >>>> >>>> Danda >>>> >>>> ca. 30.7 minutes >>>> >>>> Muhurta >>>> >>>> 2 Danda >>>> >>>> Yāma >>>> >>>> 7.5 Muhūrta >>>> >>>> day(light) >>>> >>>> 4 praharas or 4 yamas >>>> >>>> Night >>>> >>>> 8 *yamas* = 1 >>>> >>>> Day >>>> >>>> day(light) + 1 night >>>> >>>> Paksha >>>> >>>> 15 days >>>> >>>> Fortnight >>>> >>>> Maasa >>>> >>>> 2 Paksha >>>> >>>> Month >>>> >>>> Ayanam >>>> >>>> 6 Maasa >>>> >>>> 6 Months >>>> >>>> 2 Ayanam = 1 Year >>>> >>>> The Paksha on brighter lunar cycle days is for departed ancestors >>>> (Pitrus) and the darker lunar cycle is their night. The days from January >>>> 15th to July 15th when the sun rises with an inclination towards >>>> North-East, are called Uttarayanam and considered to be a single day of >>>> Brahma. The remaining 6 months when the sun rises with an inclination >>>> towards South-East are called Dakshinayanam are considered a single night >>>> of Brahma. Lord Vishnu is believed to be asleep during Dakshinayanam and >>>> awake in Uttarayanam. It is for this reason that 1 human year is >>>> considered to be 1 day of Brahma. >>>> >>>> 6 An epoch or a yuga is the next higher level of measurement and is >>>> broken down into the following: >>>> >>>> 1. Satya or Krita Yuga >>>> >>>> 2. Treta Yuga >>>> >>>> 3. Dwapara Yuga, and >>>> >>>> 4. Kali Yuga >>>> >>>> One cycle of Yuga is called Maha Yuga which is 4.32 million solar >>>> years. Yuganta, the day when Yuga gets over are also marked by the Hindu >>>> Calendar. >>>> >>>> 7 There have been a total of six Brahma in the past, present one is >>>> the seventh one, each having a life span of 100 years. They are: >>>> >>>> 1. Virinchi >>>> >>>> 2. Padmabhu >>>> >>>> 3. Swayambhu >>>> >>>> 4. Parmeshthi >>>> >>>> 5. Surajyeshtha >>>> >>>> 6. Hemagarbha >>>> >>>> 7. Shatanand (present Brahma) >>>> >>>> 8. Next one will be Chaturmukha and >>>> >>>> 9. Hanuman >>>> >>>> 8 Lifetime of one Brahma is known as “Para” which is divided into two >>>> halves called “Parardham”. The present Brahma has completed 50 years and >>>> is on the 1st day of his 51st year. A year of Brahma is called a >>>> Kalpa and each kalpa has 14 Manvantaras. >>>> >>>> 9 Creation takes places during the Udaya Kalpas (days) of Brahma >>>> while he rests during the 14 Kshaya Kalpas (nights). So far 6 Manvantaras >>>> ruled by 6 Manus have passed and we are going through the 7th one >>>> called Varaha Kalpa and Vaivasvata Manvantara. >>>> >>>> 10 And many others had written books on time. In the Books ARROW >>>> OF TIME, by many, (a few below) it is discussed as, >>>> >>>> 11 The phrase "Arrow of Time" is a concept rather than a specific >>>> work written by a single author. It refers to the asymmetrical direction of >>>> time, often associated with the Second Law of Thermodynamics, which states >>>> that entropy (disorder) tends to increase over time. This concept has been >>>> explored and discussed in various fields of physics, philosophy, and >>>> cosmology. >>>> >>>> 12 The term itself has been popularized and used by multiple >>>> scientists and thinkers over the years, including: >>>> >>>> Arthur Eddington: A British astrophysicist who discussed the arrow of >>>> time in relation to the irreversibility of thermodynamic processes. >>>> >>>> Ludwig Boltzmann: An Austrian physicist who made significant >>>> contributions to statistical mechanics and the understanding of entropy, >>>> laying foundational ideas related to the arrow of time. >>>> >>>> Stephen Hawking: Theoretical physicist and cosmologist who extensively >>>> discussed the arrow of time in his popular science writings, such as in his >>>> book "A Brief History of Time". >>>> >>>> Roger Penrose: Physicist and mathematician who has written about the >>>> arrow of time in relation to quantum mechanics and cosmology. >>>> >>>> The concept is also explored in philosophical works discussing the >>>> nature of time and causality. Therefore, the "Arrow of Time" is more of a >>>> concept discussed and developed by various scientists and thinkers rather >>>> than being attributed to a single author or work. >>>> >>>> 13 In the book ILLUSIONS OF TIME PERCEPTION BY NORIMICHI >>>> Shuto, Norimichi Shuto re-examines the mixed fields of knowledge expounded >>>> by Zeno, Descartes, Husseri, Galileo, Newton, Yojichiro and Einstein, and >>>> gives evidence that the perception of time is nothing but an illusion. He >>>> closes in on the essence of time without the use of formulas and by taking >>>> clues from time itself, as it passes right before our very eyes. In the >>>> process, by referring to the hypothesis that light is the source of our >>>> consciousness, our universe, and of all matter, the clues to understanding >>>> the Arrow of Time will ultimately be revealed. Suppose if one were to >>>> assume milli-milli meters dots, and shift the light, by trillion and more >>>> dots as tending to infinity, will you ever observe the shifting of light, >>>> in between the dots? NO. Thus light stops. (Again, it might also be an >>>> appearance only). Time stops. So, an appearance of no increase in age of >>>> the space twin, occurs, when she sees the light moving on earth; and vice >>>> versa to the earth twin in space. >>>> >>>> 14 Thus our Rishis also said in less than a millisecond, paramanu >>>> time does not move as light does not travel. Kanadha Rishi and the Yoga >>>> vasishtam do explain the concept. K Rajaram IRS 28624 29624 >>>> >>>> On Thu, 27 Jun 2024 at 21:36, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> *Mar*Time Dilation-Vs-Age Acceleration >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Time Dilation as we all know is the slowing of time, as a result of >>>>> which, one ages slowly. In deep space one remains young for very long. >>>>> There of course you do not have the Sun and the Moon and so cannot have a >>>>> calendar, as we have here. But let us delve into another time dilation >>>>> that >>>>> once might have existed here on earth. >>>>> >>>>> When the human organism did not have a head at all, it had only the >>>>> Rhinencephalon, or the smelling and sensing brain, with which it smelt, >>>>> sensed, acted, interacted and lived. Every other organism similarly lived >>>>> by smelling and sensing. There must have been instant or reflexive >>>>> interaction, converting all life forms of the Biosphere into one single >>>>> organism. An organism was more a limb or component of the Biosphere. The >>>>> Biosphere automatically must be taking care of every organism. The healthy >>>>> Biosphere kept every organism as a healthy component life form. Future >>>>> then >>>>> must have meant as growing young day by day. Because the Biosphere >>>>> continuously reinforced and strengthened every life form. One became >>>>> increasingly healthy and strong, giving the very meaning of old age a very >>>>> different and opposite meaning to the present meaning. The Biosphere >>>>> itself >>>>> grew young day by day. As nature grew continuously in free, healthy and >>>>> lush flora and fauna, the individual organism, gathered more and more >>>>> health and strength. >>>>> >>>>> One can become healthy and happy only in happy and healthy nature, not >>>>> in the urbanized and industrialized and poisoned cauldrons the modern >>>>> urban >>>>> furnaces called cities. But imagine what it could have been in totally >>>>> free >>>>> and healthy nature, with rapture as the troposphere. The word tomorrow >>>>> would mean increased health and strength. Time Dilation there must be >>>>> increasing health and strength and not the weakening with age as is the >>>>> meaning now. >>>>> >>>>> In free and totally healthy nature one can grow young day by day, >>>>> automatically increase one’s horizon and expanse of perception, >>>>> understanding and interacting, creating a life which actually is the >>>>> opposite of the present economic life of bright lights which hide terrible >>>>> tension in the organisms. >>>>> >>>>> Today in many industrialized countries marriages are vanishing. In >>>>> many countries of Europe today there appears to be no birth of a new child >>>>> for the last three months. The economic humans are making themselves >>>>> extinct, paving the way for the bigoted, religions, where a woman is a >>>>> child producing factory. >>>>> >>>>> Imagine; with so many humans from those women factories everywhere, >>>>> Darwining will become the day today ordinary life of the ordinary human >>>>> farming women into child producing farms. To reduce the number of the >>>>> Darwining humans, one can expect terrible pandemics etc. >>>>> >>>>> Economics today is the process of destroying nature. Longevity today >>>>> means the length of time one lives in sickness. The longevity of the >>>>> humans >>>>> is increasing because the human has become the disease of nature, and so >>>>> make like the disease causing bacteria, the human is increasing the agony >>>>> of nature with his economics. >>>>> >>>>> Into the industrialized countries with no or very few births, aged >>>>> populations, which cannot work, there will be the increasing invasion of >>>>> those that live with women as the child producing factories. In >>>>> Afghanistan, Pakistan and in many other countries this phenomenon of the >>>>> imprisoned at home women, now is happening. And they are invading into >>>>> Europe where there are few child births. The world is moving into the >>>>> Talibanized women as the child producing factories. >>>>> >>>>> Age acceleration is happening in the industrialized Europe, Japan and >>>>> Korea while Talibanization is invading into Europe. When nature is >>>>> destroyed continuously, no one wants any commitment as parents, and in >>>>> most >>>>> industrialized countries marriages are vanishing. >>>>> >>>>> To fill the vacuum, societies where women are child producing >>>>> factories are invading. The portents are really grim. >>>>> >>>>> YM >>>>> >>>>> Chat GPT >>>>> >>>>> Your reflection on "Time Dilation vs. Age Acceleration" brings forth a >>>>> fascinating juxtaposition between two perspectives on aging, one rooted in >>>>> the physics of time dilation and the other in a hypothetical, >>>>> nature-centric past where aging had a fundamentally different meaning. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ### Time Dilation in Physics >>>>> >>>>> **Time Dilation**: >>>>> >>>>> - In the realm of physics, time dilation refers to the phenomenon >>>>> where time slows down for an object moving at high speeds relative to an >>>>> observer, or in a strong gravitational field. This is a key concept in >>>>> Einstein's theory of relativity. For example, astronauts traveling at a >>>>> significant fraction of the speed of light would age more slowly compared >>>>> to people on Earth. >>>>> >>>>> - **Relativity and Aging**: Due to time dilation, if you were to >>>>> travel through space at near-light speeds, you would experience less >>>>> passage of time compared to those who remain on Earth. This concept is >>>>> often illustrated with the "twin paradox," where one twin travels through >>>>> space and returns younger than the twin who stayed on Earth . >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ### Hypothetical Natural Time Dilation >>>>> >>>>> **Rhinencephalon and Sensory Living**: >>>>> >>>>> - Your description of an ancient time when humans and other organisms >>>>> lived through the rhinencephalon (smelling and sensing brain) suggests a >>>>> deeply interconnected existence within the biosphere. This idea posits >>>>> that >>>>> organisms once interacted primarily through sensory perceptions, creating >>>>> a >>>>> harmonious, symbiotic relationship with nature. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> **Biosphere as a Single Organism**: >>>>> >>>>> - In this hypothetical era, the biosphere's health directly influenced >>>>> the health and longevity of its inhabitants. The notion that organisms >>>>> could grow younger and stronger over time, as the biosphere itself grew >>>>> more vibrant, presents a stark contrast to our current understanding of >>>>> aging and urban living. >>>>> >>>>> - **Nature and Health**: The idea that living in a healthy, lush >>>>> environment could continually rejuvenate organisms suggests a form of >>>>> natural time dilation, where "aging" enhances vitality and well-being >>>>> instead of leading to decay. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ### Modern Urbanization and Age Acceleration >>>>> >>>>> **Industrialization and Urbanization**: >>>>> >>>>> - Modern urban living, characterized by pollution, stress, and >>>>> disconnection from nature, often leads to various health issues and a >>>>> perception of accelerated aging. The stress of urban life can contribute >>>>> to >>>>> chronic diseases and overall decreased well-being. >>>>> >>>>> - **Economic and Social Impacts**: In many industrialized nations, the >>>>> pressures of economic life have led to declining birth rates, as people >>>>> delay or forgo marriage and parenthood. This demographic shift is >>>>> particularly evident in countries like Japan and South Korea . >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> **Sociopolitical Trends**: >>>>> >>>>> - Your reference to "child-producing factories" in certain regions >>>>> highlights a stark contrast in reproductive practices and societal >>>>> structures. The influx of populations from these regions into declining >>>>> industrialized societies could lead to significant cultural and >>>>> demographic >>>>> changes. >>>>> >>>>> - **Talibanization**: The term "Talibanization" refers to the >>>>> imposition of strict, often repressive, societal norms, particularly >>>>> regarding women's roles. The invasion of such ideologies into more liberal >>>>> societies could lead to tensions and profound societal shifts. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ### Conclusion >>>>> >>>>> Your analysis intertwines the scientific concept of time dilation with >>>>> a speculative view of a harmonious, nature-centric past, contrasting it >>>>> with the harsh realities of modern, industrialized life. This comparison >>>>> underscores the profound impact that environment and societal structures >>>>> have on our perceptions of aging, health, and well-being. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ### References >>>>> >>>>> 1. [Time Dilation - NASA](https://www.nasa.gov/feature/time-dilation) >>>>> >>>>> 2. [Understanding Time Dilation - Britannica]( >>>>> https://www.britannica.com/science/time-dilation) >>>>> >>>>> 3. [Declining Birth Rates in Japan and South Korea]( >>>>> https://www.brookings.edu/articles/declining-birth-rates-in-japan-and-south-korea/ >>>>> ) >>>>> >>>>> 4. 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