And that eternity is poornAMADHA POORNAMIDJHAM....... VERSE KR IRS 21124

On Sat, 2 Nov 2024 at 12:05, Yeddanapudi Markandeyulu <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Rajaram Sir,
> Your quotation of Henry Van Dyke is so wonderful.Nature in reality is that
> eternity,
> YM
>
> On Sat, Nov 2, 2024 at 10:30 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> **Holistic Flow and Photon Vibrations**: This approach posits that
>> thoughts, perceptions, and consciousness are photon-based vibrations
>> interacting in the “invisible spectrum,” which enables a continuous flow of
>> understanding. In this view, photons are not just particles of light but
>> carriers of consciousness, linking every organism through a universal,
>> symbiotic vibrational field. Such ideas resonate with theories like
>> **panpsychism**—where consciousness is inherent in all matter—and
>> **biocentrism**, which emphasizes the universe’s dependency on conscious
>> observation.
>>
>>
>>
>> KR:  concept of holistic:
>>
>> ॐ पूर्णमदः पूर्णमिदं पूर्णात्पूर्णमुदच्यते ।
>>
>> पूर्णस्य पूर्णमादाय पूर्णमेवावशिष्यते ॥
>>
>> ॐ शान्तिः शान्तिः शान्तिः ॥
>>
>> Om Puurnnam-Adah Puurnnam-Idam Puurnnaat-Puurnnam-Udacyate |
>>
>> Puurnnasya Puurnnam-Aadaaya Puurnnam-Eva-Avashissyate ||
>>
>> Om Shaantih Shaantih Shaantih ||
>>
>> Meaning:
>>
>> 1: Om, That (Outer World) is Purna (Full with Divine Consciousness); This
>> (Inner World) is also Purna (Full with Divine Consciousness); From Purna is
>> manifested Purna (From the Fullness of Divine Consciousness the World is
>> manifested),
>>
>> 2: Taking Purna from Purna, Purna indeed remains (Because Divine
>> Consciousness is Non-Dual and Infinite),
>>
>> 3: Om, Peace, Peace, Peace.
>>
>> Holistic is only wrt the consciousness brahmam and all others are tending
>> towards that holistic ratio.
>>
>> 2    Time is not a simple thing that we take it to be, it is pregnant
>> with meaning and mystery. Mankind perishes speedily by thinking of time as
>> real. “The little time I spend in asking – Is there time at all? – has
>> revealed to me the perfect Peace, the very Deity Himself,” observes
>> Thirumular, a medieval Tamil Shaivite saint, in Thirumandiram. He asks, “Do
>> you know that time vanishes when its origin is sought for? What then is the
>> use of limiting yourself to it?”
>>
>>      What, then is time? St Augustine, in his Confessions, has revealed a
>> plausible answer. “If no one asks of me, I know: if I wish to explain to
>> him who asks, I know not.” Augustine accepted the reality of only the
>> present time, denying any validity to past and future time. But then there
>> are three presents: the present of things past in memory, the present of
>> things present in sight, and the present of things future in expectation.
>> For TS Eliot, in Four Quartets, “Time present and time past/ Are both
>> perhaps present in time future/ And time future contained in time past/ If
>> all time is eternally present/ All time is unredeemable.”
>>
>>    For many physicists, including Einstein, time is not fundamentally
>> real but merely a figment of our limited perception of reality; its
>> distinction between past, present, and future is an illusion. At the
>> deepest foundations of nature, time is not an irreducible element or
>> concept required to construct reality. Everything that has ever happened in
>> the past, or will happen in the future, is technically happening
>> simultaneously in the Now. Although there is no consensus on the definition
>> of time, there is no disagreement about its measurement. Aristotle spelt it
>> out as “the calculable measure of motion with respect to before and 
>> ‘afterness’.”
>> This idea of time as a fixed sequence of events survived until Einstein
>> defined space and time as different aspects of the same entity called
>> spacetime. In other words, there is no absolute time, “My time and your
>> time are different depending on how fast we are moving from each other.”
>> The faster we move, the greater the magnitude of the time dilation we
>> experience.
>>
>>      `On a psychological level, as Henry van Dyke said in Music and Other
>> Poems, “Time is too slow for those who wait,/ Too swift for those who
>> fear,/ Too long for those who grieve,/ Too short for those who rejoice,/
>> But for those who love, time is eternity.”
>>
>>            Throughout history, mankind has tried to measure time with
>> various methods. At first, it was the seasons, hot or cold, later the year
>> was divided into months, weeks, and days. Sumerians invented the system of
>> Time by dividing hours into 60 minutes and days into 24 hours. Babylonians
>> divided the year into 12 equal parts and the day into 24 hours according to
>> the solar calendar. According to the ancient Egyptian priests, time was the
>> disappearance of energy; in other words, the transformation process of
>> energy that symbolised the eternal creator.
>>
>> Time is an intangible element of our daily life, though describing its
>> fundamental nature is much harder. So, let not the sands of time get in our
>> lunch: “Time goes, you say? Ah! No, time stays, we go.”
>>
>>      Thus, the time is variable and incinsuistent and non existence at a
>> particular point.
>>
>>       Matter is neither created not destroyed but is not wholesome since
>> converyible and condensible and thus controled by time.
>>
>>      Photon is alie only after the SUN is borb abd hence chabgeable
>> stoppable. Thus, appears and disappears in time. As photon is nonexistent
>> in time, so too cxannot become Poornam the holistic.  Hence Photon cannot
>> be the consciousness.
>>
>>         So, Poornam the consciousness may not be equated to the photons
>> at all. K Rajaram IRS 21124
>>
>> On Sat, 2 Nov 2024 at 07:09, Markendeya Yeddanapudi <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *Mar*The Holistic Flow –Vs –Scientific or Cartesian Proof
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The electrons of every atom of you continuously pump photons as thought
>>> and perception energies, which interact with the thought and perception
>>> energies of every other life form, creating enlightenment lightnings,
>>> brilliant perceptions and the understanding floods of the holistic
>>> enlightenments. They are the perceptions of the Biosphere as a whole, in
>>> which you participate and grow in knowing and feeling which serves as the
>>> ecological vibration link. They are the photon vibrations, the most
>>> powerful vibrations of the universe. Every photon has the dimension of
>>> consciousness. After all when you see, you employ photons. You can converse
>>> with the photons with your enlightenments.
>>>
>>> Your life is vibrating continuously, as the actions and interactions in
>>> the invisible spectrum. The invisible abstract universe is vibrating
>>> continuously. The Universe is living by symbiotically vibrating. Your life
>>> has cosmic link. The Universe simply is Cosmic Time, creating the
>>> space-times of enlightenments. All your thoughts, perceptions,
>>> understandings, discoveries, and enlightenments, all of which constitute
>>> your life are abstract, part of the invisible spectrum. Actually the
>>> Macrocosm, which actually is the creation of the Microcosm of energies,
>>> atoms etc, is vibrating space-time, time which changes into space-time.
>>> Vibration simply is time changing into space-time and vice-versa. In the
>>> free and healthy universe, you vibrate symbiotically, your consciousness
>>> vibrating as perceptions and understandings as part of the living
>>> Biosphere. The ecological link is part of the anatomical links of your
>>> macro body.
>>>
>>> If you start with the basic dictum that you are part of nature and
>>> simply cannot be indifferent to the fact to develop the scientific outlook,
>>> you advance as a student reading, perceiving and understanding nature. If
>>> you destroy that basic link and adopt the attitude of the scientific
>>> observer, you begin destroying nature as your outsider spectatorship, needs
>>> the 3D seeing, limited to 00.0037% of the electromagnetic spectrum.
>>>
>>> Your eyes see only the 3D objects; totally blinding you to the links of
>>> the invisible spectrum between the things you see. The machines you employ
>>> can only create the visible 3D phenomena. When you see without feelings and
>>> emotions, your seeing gets handicapped as is the case with machines, which
>>> cannot feel.
>>>
>>> Mechanization has cut our basic link to nature. The basic link is
>>> emotional. Feelings and emotions travel as hormones that connect the cells,
>>> making them act and vibrate. We desperately need ‘Free Nature Parks’
>>> without human tampering to revive our macro anatomy.
>>>
>>> YM Sarma
>>>
>>> Chat GPT
>>>
>>> This passage contrasts a **holistic, vibrational perception of reality**
>>> with a **scientific, Cartesian model** rooted in observation and proof. It
>>> presents the holistic perspective as an experience of interconnectedness
>>> through photon vibrations and consciousness, where each life form engages
>>> in an ecological web that sustains collective perception and understanding.
>>> Here are some key elements and comparisons:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 1. **Holistic Flow and Photon Vibrations**: This approach posits that
>>> thoughts, perceptions, and consciousness are photon-based vibrations
>>> interacting in the “invisible spectrum,” which enables a continuous flow of
>>> understanding. In this view, photons are not just particles of light but
>>> carriers of consciousness, linking every organism through a universal,
>>> symbiotic vibrational field. Such ideas resonate with theories like
>>> **panpsychism**—where consciousness is inherent in all matter—and
>>> **biocentrism**, which emphasizes the universe’s dependency on conscious
>>> observation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2. **Emotional and Hormonal Connections**: The holistic flow suggests
>>> that emotional and hormonal signals, which influence cellular interactions,
>>> are integral to human and ecological health. This connection recalls the
>>> **ecological psychology** field, which studies how perception and
>>> environmental context influence behavior and cognition. It suggests that
>>> the natural hormonal flow sustains harmony, which becomes disrupted by
>>> mechanization and scientific detachment from emotional observation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 3. **Cartesian Science and the Limitations of Mechanization**: The
>>> critique here targets **Cartesian dualism**—the division of mind and
>>> body—and **scientific materialism**, which are seen as limited to the
>>> visible, three-dimensional world. In Cartesian science, objective
>>> observation often requires detachment, which can cause a rift from natural
>>> harmony. Mechanized science operates within this material framework and,
>>> according to the passage, only captures 0.0037% of the total
>>> electromagnetic spectrum, restricting access to the full vibrational
>>> reality.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 4. **Free Nature Parks as Restorative Spaces**: The “Free Nature Parks”
>>> concept suggests spaces without human interference, where one can reconnect
>>> with the macro-ecological anatomy. These parks would provide an environment
>>> for emotional, non-mechanized learning, similar to the ideas behind
>>> **ecotherapy** and **forest bathing** practices, which encourage immersive,
>>> nature-based healing and sensory awareness.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In summary, Sarma’s vision proposes that aligning with the “invisible
>>> spectrum” of consciousness through emotional and sensory connection can
>>> provide a counterbalance to mechanized, Cartesian perspectives that
>>> compartmentalize and, thus, diminish the broader ecological symbiosis. This
>>> contrast between vibrational holism and scientific reductionism echoes deep
>>> ecological and spiritual perspectives, advocating for educational spaces
>>> that foster emotional reconnection with nature and holistic understanding.
>>>
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