Hey, those penguins are damn cute. 

On May 5, 2011, at 10:06 PM, [email protected] wrote:

> The snake thing in Conan looks dumb in the same way the Clash of the Titans 
> trailer was ruined by that fifty-million dollar yawn-monster at the end.  
> What's around the corner, Perseus, what's making that noise?  
> It's....it's....COMPUTER MATH.  
> 
> Fact is, the throne room scene in Flash Gordon (1980) looks more exotic and 
> exciting than the sweeping video game cut-scene they're calling Oa.   
> It's possible kids will accept the "visual vocabulary of the present 
> cinematic age," in the way we, as kids, accepted the skeletons in Jason and 
> the Argonauts or King Kong, etc, but...I don't think any kids are excited 
> about this movie.  
> 
> I mean maybe a few nerdads are pushing them toward it.  
> 
> Kid: I wanna see Thaw.
> Nerdad:  What about, Green Lantern, buddy?  Don't you wanna see a guy who has 
> a ring?
> Kid: Like...the one you got for mom?  Thaw has a hammaw.  
> Nerdad: Ha, ha, no no, like the...ok, let's see Thor.
> 
> Thor has a kajillion effects in it, but....Thor himself looks like a person.  
> You can relate to him.  I think a "glow" or something around a real costume 
> would have gotten across the idea of the ring generating clothing.  Maybe 
> it's an "uncanny valley" issue.  Like Shag articulated, its not that the 
> effects look baaaad, it's that the whole thing is effects.  Like with Lord of 
> the Rings, I guess, the idea is people will buy the DVD and pause every few 
> seconds so they can jizz over all the detailed design work at whichever speed 
> they jizz at, but...that aint gonna help opening weekend.
> 
> As you point out, Luke, people complained about the effects in SW (though 
> isn't there something about it looking different on tv than on the big 
> screen?  Like, those yellow squares around the TIE Fighters were a tv thing?  
> Someone?), but...people saw SW in the theater and continued to see it and 
> talk about it.  No one will see Green Lantern.  Bomb ahoy.
> 
> Should we have another bet thing like with Watchmen and Scott Pilgrim?
> 
> I say it gets crushed by....Mr. Popper's Penguins!!!  You down with MPP?!!
> 
> That trailer, btw, was cut by amateurs.  It looks teerrrrrible!  And 
> yet....it will kiiiilll Green Lantern!!  Then, GL will be buried by Cars 2 
> the following week to disappear forever!  Sinestro wins!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Luke <[email protected]>
> To: The Unique Geek <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thu, May 5, 2011 3:45 am
> Subject: [The Unique Geek] Re: New Green Lantern trailer shows off the 
> Guardians of the Universe - io9
> 
> I'm more disappointed by the CGI monster in the new Conan trailer than
> any of the CGI in the Green Lantern trailers, frankly.  That's the
> visual vocabulary of the present cinematic age.
> 
> You want an eye opener?  Go read some contemporary genre magazines
> when Empire or Jedi came out.  Cinefantastique especially lambastes
> some of ILM's work.  We idealize these physical effects in our minds,
> but I still cringe everytime I watch the original version of Empire
> with the God awful travelling mattes in the asteroid field.  Even as
> late as 89 (Last Crusade) its pretty easy to spot complaining
> criticism of ILM's work.  So not liking special effects and thinking
> things look "fake" is a time honored nerd tradition.
> 
> On May 5, 10:05 am, Edward Crosby <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Again, I have no problem with the CGI costume, I think it looks fine. And, I
> > think it does look like it could exist in the real world. Remember, the GL's
> > costume in the comic books, for the most part, is energy constructed by that
> > GL. I can imagine the costume having that glow in the real world.
> >
> > ----------------------------------------
> > Have a Better One,
> > Edward Crosbyhttp://about.me/edwardcrosby
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 9:55 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > For me it's not a case that the CGI looks bad, it's the sheer volume of
> > > CGI.  In some shots there is simply too much going on (all done by CGI).
> > > For example, in Revenge of the Sith, the space battle featured too many
> > > things going on (all done by CGI).  So while the battle was more massive
> > > than the space battle in Return of the Jedi, there was just too much to
> > > see.  The space battle in Revenge of the Sith is less exciting than the
> > > Return of the Jedi battle for that reason.
> >
> > > In regard to the Green Lantern costume, the choice to go with CGI is
> > > disappointing.  It makes the costume harder to believe it's real.  It just
> > > doesn't look like it could exist in the real world.  A simpler real-world
> > > costume with a CGI aura might have worked better.
> >
> > > Just my two cents.
> >
> > > The Irredeemable Shag
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> >
> > >  -------- Original Message --------
> > > Subject: Re: [The Unique Geek] Re: New Green Lantern trailer shows off
> > > the Guardians of the Universe - io9
> > > From: Edward Crosby <[email protected]>
> > > Date: Thu, May 05, 2011 9:47 am
> > > To: [email protected]
> >
> > > Yeah, I am confused why people keep stating that the CG looks bad
> > > (Ravenface and other TUG members). As compared to what? Avatar? Sure. Tron
> > > Legacy? Absolutely. Sucker Punch? Maybe. Iron Man 2? No way.
> > > Widge made a really good point on the last recorded TUG podcast recording
> > > and I agree with him. He stated, and I'm paraphrasing, that we all have 
> > > such
> > > a high standard of CG these days that if something comes along that meets 
> > > or
> > > doesn't exceed the bar then we turn our heads in disgust. From what I have
> > > seen, the CG in this movie is by far some of the best we have seen in
> > > today's live action movies. I think another reason we turn our heads in
> > > disgust of the CG in this movie is because there is so much of it. But 
> > > there
> > > has to be as this is a Green Lantern movie set mostly in a fictional world
> > > and fictional universe that has to be pulled out of one of the most 
> > > extreme
> > > mediums that is the comic book. There is no way this movie could have been
> > > done well with all the CG needed five years ago.
> > > I'm not making any judgement about this movie now, if I can help it. At
> > > first, yes, I judged the teaser trailer and cringed. Recent trailers give 
> > > me
> > > more hope that this may be an entertaining movie. I know it will not be a
> > > blockbuster movie but I will reserve judgement of whether it is good or 
> > > not
> > > after I have seen it when I see it opening weekend.
> >
> > > ----------------------------------------
> > > Have a Better One,
> > > Edward Crosby
> > >http://about.me/edwardcrosby
> >
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