I can agree to that. The bad movie part is too subjective. I still think it was a horrible movie. Horrible acting, unenjoyable to watch, I wanted every character to die within 10 minutes of watching them. Regardless of genre or intention, I think unlikeable characters make for a bad movie. But that's just my opinion.
I loved Robocop, when I was 11. I rewatched it recently and it doesn't hold up for me. There's no art to SST or Robocop, they're both just so very heavy handed, childishly gory, and seemingly too proud of how clever they think they are. Showgirls is pretty widely regarded as a piece of cinematic trash, that some people hold up as enjoyable for the irony of how bad it is. That's one man's opinion. On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Luke <[email protected]> wrote: > Alright, so reading your response, you have made a great case for it > being a terrible adaption. Which it totally is. I agree > wholeheartedly with that sentiment. > > Still not seeing how it was a bad movie, given that the film was > supposed to be jingoistic and jackbooted. That was the point. > Verhoven set out to make a sci-fi war propaganda film, and that was > what he made. He's not a subtle director (have you seen Robocop? Or > Showgirls for that matter?) but his films are filled with satire. > Have you watched the sort of war films which the studios churned out > during the war? You're complaining about a thin story in a movie > which exists to be a series of setpieces like the films it is > mocking? > > Starship Troopers is a hideous example of how to adapt a book, but > we'll have to agree to disagree on its merits as a war movie. > > BTW, they tried to do the power armor but the effects were not > feasible. > > On Jun 16, 10:44 am, Megabrain Comics <[email protected]> > wrote: > > "Same with Starship Troopers... I'm missing how exactly it was a bad > movie." > > > > Starship Troopers was an abomination of a movie, one that directly > > contradicted many of the ideas that Heinlein wrote into the book. The > book > > went out of its way to repeated deglamorize war, to show the tedious > nature > > of the motorized infantry, played up the scary factor of fighting totally > > inhuman foes, and how in their society gender roles may have evolved but > > have continued to stay separate and roles in war played to each of their > > strengths (all female pilots, all male infantry.) > > > > The movie version went so far as to show integrated showers because all > > soldiers are equal (OMGBOOBIESLULZ), female infantry, did away with the > > mechanized suits entirely, had a jingoistic feel good ending with the > > fearful slug, and turned the combat into an over the top video game. It > was > > one of the worst adaptions ever made, an insult to the author of the > book, > > and jam packed with 4th rate crappy acting, and a paper thin story. I get > > annoyed every time someone reminds me that movie exists. > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Luke <[email protected]> wrote: > > > How was GI Joe a bad movie? It delivered everything a big screen > > > adaption of the property should deliver. > > > > > Same with Starship Troopers... I'm missing how exactly it was a bad > > > movie. > > > > > I can point you in the direction of some pure garbage crap, and those > > > two are not examples of it. > > > > > On Jun 16, 8:32 am, Cary Preston <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > There are some fairly obscure reviewers listed there (at least to > me). > > > While all of the top critics have panned it so far, I've seen reviews > from > > > what look like little more than blogs too- Larsen On Film, > DustinPutman, > > > Badass Digest, Metromix. Maybe I'm too sheltered, but I've never heard > of a > > > single one. > > > > Critical consensus != personal impression. I've loved some bad movies > > > (I'm looking at YOU, Starship Troopers). GI Joe was undeniably a bad > movie. > > > So far, even the positive reviews have caveats in them, so I have no > faith > > > that this will be a worthwhile movie. Maybe it won't be Ghost Rider > bad, but > > > I doubt I'll be spending money on it. > > > > > > On Jun 16, 2011, at 8:23 AM, Luke <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Eh. RT is good if you want to see what mainstream critics are > saying, > > > > > but pretty much all of the movies I have seen in the theaters and > > > > > enjoyed over the last few years have been "certifiably rotten" > > > > > according to them. (GI Joe: The Rise of Cobra being a prime > example, > > > > > with a 33% rating but ranking as one of my favorite films of the > > > > > 00's.) > > > > > > > On Jun 15, 10:16 pm, Cary Preston <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> Link: > > >http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/green_lantern/(viashareaholic.com) > > > > > > >> Not looking good so far. 30 reviews, 20% approval rating. 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