Regarding Showgirls, yeah, it's pretty damn awful. My brother loves that movie on an ironic level but that's about it, heh.
I have loved Robocop from the first time I saw it when I was 6. Yeah you read that right. Saw it in the theater, even, on a double feature with Predator. That night helped shaped my life, frankly. I can see your point about the heavy handedness and gore. But to me those add to the overall experience. Robocop is a superhero movie but its filtered through the conceit of ultraviolence and the context 80s hyper yuppie-dom. And as someone who loves the 80s, and capitalism, and 80s capitalism it speaks to me. Plus it works very strongly on a pure action-adventure level. In any event, I am going to go see Green Lantern on Saturday, with a bunch of my nerd friends. Either way should be a fun experience! On Jun 16, 2:43 pm, Megabrain Comics <[email protected]> wrote: > I can agree to that. The bad movie part is too subjective. > > I still think it was a horrible movie. Horrible acting, unenjoyable to > watch, I wanted every character to die within 10 minutes of watching them. > Regardless of genre or intention, I think unlikeable characters make for a > bad movie. But that's just my opinion. > > I loved Robocop, when I was 11. I rewatched it recently and it doesn't hold > up for me. There's no art to SST or Robocop, they're both just so very heavy > handed, childishly gory, and seemingly too proud of how clever they think > they are. Showgirls is pretty widely regarded as a piece of cinematic trash, > that some people hold up as enjoyable for the irony of how bad it is. > > That's one man's opinion. > > > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Luke <[email protected]> wrote: > > Alright, so reading your response, you have made a great case for it > > being a terrible adaption. Which it totally is. I agree > > wholeheartedly with that sentiment. > > > Still not seeing how it was a bad movie, given that the film was > > supposed to be jingoistic and jackbooted. That was the point. > > Verhoven set out to make a sci-fi war propaganda film, and that was > > what he made. He's not a subtle director (have you seen Robocop? Or > > Showgirls for that matter?) but his films are filled with satire. > > Have you watched the sort of war films which the studios churned out > > during the war? You're complaining about a thin story in a movie > > which exists to be a series of setpieces like the films it is > > mocking? > > > Starship Troopers is a hideous example of how to adapt a book, but > > we'll have to agree to disagree on its merits as a war movie. > > > BTW, they tried to do the power armor but the effects were not > > feasible. > > > On Jun 16, 10:44 am, Megabrain Comics <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > "Same with Starship Troopers... I'm missing how exactly it was a bad > > movie." > > > > Starship Troopers was an abomination of a movie, one that directly > > > contradicted many of the ideas that Heinlein wrote into the book. The > > book > > > went out of its way to repeated deglamorize war, to show the tedious > > nature > > > of the motorized infantry, played up the scary factor of fighting totally > > > inhuman foes, and how in their society gender roles may have evolved but > > > have continued to stay separate and roles in war played to each of their > > > strengths (all female pilots, all male infantry.) > > > > The movie version went so far as to show integrated showers because all > > > soldiers are equal (OMGBOOBIESLULZ), female infantry, did away with the > > > mechanized suits entirely, had a jingoistic feel good ending with the > > > fearful slug, and turned the combat into an over the top video game. It > > was > > > one of the worst adaptions ever made, an insult to the author of the > > book, > > > and jam packed with 4th rate crappy acting, and a paper thin story. I get > > > annoyed every time someone reminds me that movie exists. > > > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Luke <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > How was GI Joe a bad movie? It delivered everything a big screen > > > > adaption of the property should deliver. > > > > > Same with Starship Troopers... I'm missing how exactly it was a bad > > > > movie. > > > > > I can point you in the direction of some pure garbage crap, and those > > > > two are not examples of it. > > > > > On Jun 16, 8:32 am, Cary Preston <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > There are some fairly obscure reviewers listed there (at least to > > me). > > > > While all of the top critics have panned it so far, I've seen reviews > > from > > > > what look like little more than blogs too- Larsen On Film, > > DustinPutman, > > > > Badass Digest, Metromix. Maybe I'm too sheltered, but I've never heard > > of a > > > > single one. > > > > > Critical consensus != personal impression. I've loved some bad movies > > > > (I'm looking at YOU, Starship Troopers). GI Joe was undeniably a bad > > movie. > > > > So far, even the positive reviews have caveats in them, so I have no > > faith > > > > that this will be a worthwhile movie. Maybe it won't be Ghost Rider > > bad, but > > > > I doubt I'll be spending money on it. > > > > > > On Jun 16, 2011, at 8:23 AM, Luke <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Eh. RT is good if you want to see what mainstream critics are > > saying, > > > > > > but pretty much all of the movies I have seen in the theaters and > > > > > > enjoyed over the last few years have been "certifiably rotten" > > > > > > according to them. (GI Joe: The Rise of Cobra being a prime > > example, > > > > > > with a 33% rating but ranking as one of my favorite films of the > > > > > > 00's.) > > > > > > > On Jun 15, 10:16 pm, Cary Preston <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> Link: > > > >http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/green_lantern/(viashareaholic.com) > > > > > > >> Not looking good so far. 30 reviews, 20% approval rating. 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