I understand the point he was trying to make: the extension can only use the defaults of the page to send mail. But I inclined to disagree; I'm thinking it's very possible. If he's able to add attachments (which seems like it'd be relatively hard thing to do with whatever method he's using to interact with the page), why wouldn't he be able to change the format to plain text? It seems like it'd be a lot easier to do than add an attachment. Of course, I don't know much about the inards of the extension, and I could be very wrong. Those were just my thoughts.
I do agree that this is a tiny request compared to other more important ones, but I don't think ignoring those few users that do need this ability is the right way to go. Considering a lot of mailing lists require plain text, it makes this a big enough deal to be considered (if it IS possible). And, yes, there are people who have other options such as their ISP's servers, but there are others that don't (especially travelers who can't connect to their ISP's away from home). People could also just use the website, but that defeats the purpose of the extension. Not to mention sending through the extension saves a copy of your mail on the server, which is nice for POP users. That's all I can think of right now, but adding this feature should be considered in my opinion. - Matt On Dec 12, 3:30 am, alanrf <[email protected]> wrote: > I think that you are missing the point the Chris Clifton was making in > this thread. > > The Webmail extensions are not magical they are logical. What they do > (under the covers) is just take a message from Thunderbird and try to > send it through the same Hotmail Web interface you would use if you > logged on yourself. The Webmail extensions cannot make Hotmail behave > any differently from the way it would if you logged on via the Web. > These extensions are stuck with the same defaults you get on the Web > interface and the message goes out in the the same default way - in > this case RichText. > > This is the only thread I can recall in my years of working with these > extensions to be requesting the ability to forceplaintextthrough a > Webmail service while many threads complain of the inability to send > embedded images etc. Since most of us have the ability to > sendplaintextthrough other services (such as our ISP) I (speaking just for > myself) am reluctant to encourage the Webmail Author to devote any > effort to the delivery ofplaintextwhen it would appear to be > required by a very tiny number of users of these extensions. The > effort to just keep these extensions going in the face of the frequent > changes in the Webmail services is already more than we should expect > of the provider of these extensions. > > On Dec 10, 3:26 pm, Matt <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I just ran into this problem today sending to a mailing list. I ended > > up having to use my ISP SMTP server. I don't see any options on the > > live website to change the default to beplaintext. It would be nice > > to be able to set it in the extension. > > > On Dec 10, 9:15 am, ArcSight <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Well, actually I just received "negative vibes" when I switch to > > > WebDav mode, so it effectively doesn't work for my account. I getting > > > off my head now, there must be some way I could send justplain-text. > > > There isn't a way I can change the default format of sent messages > > > from Live Mail website? In person, I mean. I know the extension is > > > almost a browser, I have a huge programming background, by the way. > > > What I don't have really is time. If you say we could change thetext > > > format from the New Mail option then It could be some simple such as > > > running a sniffer and checking what it sends to the site, then come > > > onto the extension and implementing the same based on the SMTP > > > preferences of the extension, I'm wrong? But there has to be a better > > > and less time-consuming way... > > > > On Dec 9, 1:54 pm, Chris Clifton <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Just sent myself a test mail from the website in richtext. Apart from > > > > the obvious address differences, the headers look just like your mail. > > > > > ArcSight wrote: > > > > > I just tried the address-book stuff, but doesn't work for me. > > > > > > Below is a stripped copy of the failure message I received. > > > > > > Hi. This is the qmail-send program at ******. > > > > > I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following > > > > > addresses. > > > > > This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. > > > > > > <******>: > > > > > *****-reject: fatal: Sorry, I don't accept messages of MIME Content- > > > > > Type 'multipart/alternative' (#5.2.3) > > > > > > --- Below this line is a copy of the message. > > > > > > Return-Path: <********> > > > > > Received: (***** 13962 invoked from network); 9 Dec 2008 18:15:08 > > > > > -0000 > > > > > Received: from ********** ( ******** ) > > > > > by ******** with SMTP; 9 Dec 2008 18:15:08 -0000 > > > > > Received: (qmail 32413 invoked by alias); 9 Dec 2008 17:54:57 -0000 > > > > > Received: (qmail 32409 invoked from network); 9 Dec 2008 17:54:57 > > > > > -0000 > > > > > Received: from ********** (*************) > > > > > by ************** with SMTP; 9 Dec 2008 17:54:57 -0000 > > > > > Received: from bay0-omc3-s2.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc3- > > > > > s2.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.202]) > > > > > by ****************** (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id mB9HvTdX023582 > > > > > for <***************************>; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 10:57:29 -0700 > > > > > Received: from BAY106-W19 ([65.54.161.119]) by bay0-omc3- > > > > > s2.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); > > > > > Tue, 9 Dec 2008 09:53:04 -0800 > > > > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > > > > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > > > > > boundary="_d83e0924-9487-4a65-9cd9-43aff09422b1_" > > > > > X-Originating-IP: [***************] > > > > > From: ************************* > > > > > To: <********************> > > > > > Subject: ************************ > > > > > Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 11:53:04 -0600 > > > > > Importance: Normal > > > > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > > > > X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Dec 2008 17:53:04.0629 (UTC) FILETIME= > > > > > [FC61BA50:01C95A26] > > > > > > --_d83e0924-9487-4a65-9cd9-43aff09422b1_ > > > > > Content-Type:text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > > > ..... > > > > > > What do you I need to enable dav on my hotmail account? Is it possible > > > > > to do so? Then how? > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > > > Checked by AVG -http://www.avg.com > > > > > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1839 - Release Date: > > > > > 12/9/2008 9:59 AM > > > > > -- --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thunderbird Webmail Extension" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/thunderbird-webmail-extension?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
