Then ditch Hotmail and go to Google Mail. Show Microsoft how their strategy of "trying to force us to use Microsoft products" has back-fired on them. ;)
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 5:24 AM, Ralph Stokes <[email protected]>wrote: > I Found that option, you mention, giving choices of "Live - New Site", > "Old Site", and "Webdav". > I Backed Up All My Hotmail Folders to local folders (2,800 worth) and > Changed Setting to New Site Live, then to Old Site, (Restarting Thunderbird > 2 each time) and I still get the same error messages. > > I use Hotmail POP on my Mobile Phone, and also on my SonyPalm UX50 on WiFi, > but I use my AOL and Hotmail accounts as I can access the data from > anywhere, including Junk/Spam. I had stopped using Hotmail, until Webmail > came along, and then started using it more. > > I think it is unfair if Microsoft turns around and says, to the world, and > to the largest group of email account users, that you cannot access the > Junk, Sent, folders without using Microsoft Software. > > Am I wrong, or have I got the wrong end of the stick. > > I have Habu extension that forwards all my Junk/spam, in Thunderbird, to a > selection of reporting agencies, and Kaspersky Anti Spam. > Yahoo allows me to turn off all anti spam, and they all come to me, and out > of maybe 100-100 emails a day, from that account, maybe 3 or 4 are spam, but > not put in the the junk box, however, maybe one a week, that is not spam, > may be put in the spam box. > > So will we still have access to Junk and outbox, despite Microsoft saying > we won't? > > :-( > > > > > > > > > > Chris Clifton wrote: > > You can still use the extension, but the "Webdav" option will no longer > work. I'm not sure what the current options are in the extension as I no > longer use it, but one of the options other than "webdav" should work. > I've been using POP access to my Hotmail through Thunderbird since > Hotmail made this available for UK users early this year without > problems. You can't download from folders on the Hotmail website, this > is a limitation of the POP protocol. It doesn't bother me, but if you > have your mail organised into folders on the Hotmail site, then it won't > suit you. I'm quite happy to check the web site for spam from time to > time, I'd rather the junk stayed on the web site, than download it to my > computer. > [email protected] wrote: > > > For Last Months, Email Warnings to change settings for Hotmail by 1st > Sept 2009, to be able still access them, after 1st sept, just went > over my head, assuming any changes will will be born into another > version of this Webmail extension. > However, now, on the 2nd of Sept, I cannot access Hotmail, via Wemail, > saying Negative Vibes. > I looked at the last warning, which said to access have to do one of > three things. I get the impression may be limited to only getting it > via POP not IMAP. > > I appologise, as I have not looked further than a few posts, if this > has been covered before, but I will Post 2 Items, Below. > > 1> Last email Received, with instructions on, and links. > > > > 2 One of the links with instructions with POP/SMTP Ports etc for receiving. > > > > If is only POP, for Thunderbird, I will copy my Hotmail in and out to > another location for safe keeping. > The last time I used POP for Hotmail, I lost half the folders, and had > to keep signing on to webmail to check my Spam, and other folders. > > Are there plans to fix the Hotmail Plugin, to still work, as was, or > is this just a coincidence that Hotmail went down on the 2nd of > September? > > Email followed by Instructions for POP & SMTP... Good Luck.. > > Dear Windows Live Hotmail Customer, > > You are receiving this note because you have used Microsoft Office > Outlook, Outlook Express, or Entourage to view your Windows Live > Hotmail®. Microsoft is changing the way these programs access Hotmail > e-mail which will require you to take action. > > To continue to receive e-mail from your Hotmail account, please select > one of the alternative solutions below before September 1, 2009. After > this day, new e-mail can only be delivered to your mail programs > through the following alternative solutions. > > If you use Microsoft Office Outlook to view Hotmail, you can download > free Office Outlook Connector to continue accessing your Windows Live > Hotmail within Outlook 2003 or 2007. If you're using Outlook 2002, you > will need to change the settings on your program to access your > Hotmail. Click here to learn more. > > If you use Outlook Express to view Hotmail, you can choose to download > free Windows Live Mail (recommended) or change the settings on your > program to access your Hotmail within Outlook Express. Click here to > learn more about your options. > > If you use Entourage to view Hotmail, you can change the settings in > your program to view your e-mail. Click here to learn more. > > Why is this happening? Outlook, Outlook Express, and Entourage use a > legacy communications method (known as the DAV protocol) to access > Hotmail. Because the DAV protocol is not optimally suited for programs > to access large inboxes such as Hotmail which now provides users ever- > growing storage*, new alternatives have been built. Last year, > customers asked us to postpone plans to retire the DAV protocol until > more options were available. Now that these options (including the > POP3 protocol) are available, we are ready to retire the DAV protocol. > > Thank you for using Windows Live Hotmail. > > Sincerely, > > Your Windows Live Hotmail Team > > *Assumes a reasonable growth rate. > Microsoft respects your privacy. To learn more, please read our online > Privacy Statement. > Microsoft Corporation > One Microsoft Way > Redmond, WA 98052 > > > > . > Message-Id:<[email protected]> > <[email protected]> > > _____________________________________________ > > Alternatives to DAV if you use Entourage > > If you currently use Microsoft Entourage to access Hotmail, you can > change your settings to use POP3 (POP3, or Post Office Protocol 3, is > a protocol that's used to retrieve e-mail from a mail server.) instead > of DAV. POP3 is another method for Entourage to communicate with > Hotmail. > Important > > There are a few differences between DAV and POP3. For example, if you > read an e-mail message in Entourage, the message still displays as > unread in your Hotmail account on the web. Also, only messages in your > Hotmail inbox appear in Entourage. Other folders, and any messages in > them, aren't shown. > Add a Hotmail POP3 account in Entourage > > 1. In Entourage, on the Tools menu, click Accounts. > 2. Click New, and then click Mail. > 3. If the Account Setup Assistant displays, clear the contents of > the E-mail address field, and then click Configure Account Manually. > 4. In the New Account window, choose POP, and then click OK. > > Note > > Don't choose Windows Live Hotmail as the account type. > 5. In the Edit Account window, click the Account Settings tab, type > the following Hotmail account information: > * In the Account name field, type a name to identify your > account. > * Verify that Include this account in my “Send & Receive > All” schedule is not selected. > * Under Personal Information: > o In the Name field, type your name. > o In the E-mail address field, type your Windows Live > ID (for example: [email protected]). > * Under Receiving mail: > o In the Account ID field, type your Windows Live ID > (for example: [email protected]). > o In the POP server field, type pop3.live.com. If you > don't see the POP server field, click Cancel and go back to Step 2. > o In the Password field, type the password you use > with your Windows Live ID. > o Click the Click here for advanced receiving options > button. > o Select the This POP service requires a secure > connection (SSL) check box. > o Verify that the default port is 995. If it isn't, > select the Override default POP port check box and type 995. > o Verify that the Always use secure password check box > is not selected. > o Close the advanced receiving options. > * Under Sending mail: > o In the SMTP server field, type smtp.live.com. > o Click the Click here for advanced sending options > button. > o Select the SMTP service requires a secure connection > (SSL) check box. > o Verify that the default port is 25. If it isn't, > select the Override default SMTP port check box and type 25. > o Select the SMTP server requires authentication check > box. > o Select the Use the same settings as receiving mail > server check box. > o Close the advanced sending options. > 6. On the Options tab, select the Leave a copy of each message on > the server check box if you want to see your messages when you use > Hotmail on the web, on your mobile phone, or in another e-mail > program. > 7. Select the Delete messages from the server after they are > deleted from this computer check box. > 8. Click OK. > > Your account has been created. > > Create a schedule to send and receive messages > > 1. In your main Entourage view, on the Tools menu, click Schedules. > 2. In the Schedules window, click New. > 3. In the Name box, type a name for the schedule, (for example: > Hotmail Send and Receive). > 4. Under When, create a new Repeating Schedule with a frequency you > want. > 5. Under Action, on the pop-up menu on the left, click Receive > Mail, and then in the from pop-up menu, click your Hotmail POP > account. > 6. Click Add Action. > 7. In the new row, click Send All on the pop-up menu. > 8. Click OK. > 9. To test your schedule, on the Tools menu, click Run Schedule, > and then click the schedule name. > 10. Your e-mail messages will be downloaded to the Inbox under On My > Computer. > > Note > > Existing rules you created for your Hotmail account (under Rules on > the Tools menu) won't work for the new POP3 account. You'll need to re- > create them as POP account rules. > Related topic > > About alternatives to DAV if you use Outlook, Outlook Express, or > Entourage > > :-( > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thunderbird Webmail Extension" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/thunderbird-webmail-extension?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
