If You Use POP, All You Will Get is the Items In.

You Will Have No access to Your Other Folders like Spam, by going to the website, 4 or 5 times a day.

POP is a Freebie Account,

The Premier Account Is IMAP, but costs money, but the Webmail Extension Imitates the Premium Account.

The Premier IMAP Account Gives You Access to Your Folders, including your Spam Folders, which is vital.

With the POP Account You only have Accent to your "In Box" . And the cheep POP Has Been Given to Us, According to Microsoft, So we Can Access our Phones and portable devices.


With the cheap POP which everything uses back for decades, including the earliest Palm PDAs,

With POP/SMTP, the following occurs, normally
By Default, once you have received that new unread email into the InBox of the Account. You Cannot Access the Out Box nor Junk/spam Folder in the Mail Box, so you have to either go to the Hotmail Website to check out to ensure there are no impoortant emails filtered into the Spam/junk Filter, or to see what is in the out box , and other folders. Microsoft Get Paid When You Visit the Mail boxes, and especially if you click on adverts they want you to press to their services and other services. Microsoft want you to to one of at least 3 things. Visit Their Site to have chance for them making money, each visit. To Get you hooked on Hotmail, and have us give our friends your hotmail addresses to resell the name, and they join, and, more important, for you to realize you have to get access to more folders than than the Hotmail InBox, that you need access to all the folders, and give in and buy a Premium IMAP Account that can give you access to most folders, without having to go to the website to do so. Also, with POP/SMTP I think on the website, after you have Downloaded as POP it may Show all mails as unread.

I Use POP on my Phones PDAs, which are usually set not to delete, when you delete on phone, and to leave unread, so only delete on Thunderbird.

With IMAP, normally What You See is what you get, and everything is Live. Mail Comes Into Inbox, and when you read it, it shows it has been read. If you then open Firefox and go to Hotmail Website, you will see exactly the same, ie, the mail is in the inbox, but shows as being read. In the Junk/Spam Folder, on both Thunderbird IMAP and Website Hotmail, will be the same. In Some IMAP Accounts, like in Googlemail, you can connect folders you have added, and have them sync in a Googlemail IMAP. If You Delete in one place it will delete on the other place. Some email accounts have limitations, or set life, like AOL might be 1 or 2 months before items drop off, and Hotmail might be 6 months. Normally on most IMAP Folders, with an account and its boxes, you cannot pull an email from a Local Folder to an IMAP folder, because in the same way you cant drag an email from Firefox Hotmail Web Site, over to Thunderbird folder, however you can move or copy emails from many folders within the same IMAP account. e.g you can Drag emails from AOL IMAP in or out boxes into Saved on AOL, AOL SPAM Deleted, etc.

Now, With my Hotmail Account, with Webmail Hotmail, That Has maybe 10, 000 emails going back 5 Years, in all the Different Columns, complete with Spam, and In Box, and OUT Box For Some Reason, the creator has done a wonderful job, as Somehow, in addition to be able to see immediatelty what is in all the folders online, it has kept all my early emails whithin the same folder, so if i go online to Hotmail, there may only be 6 months there, but my Webmail goes 5 years earlier. In Theory, if I am right, if I were to switch to Genuine IMAP, I might lose the older ones because they are in the IMAP folders, but not on the website. So what you have been doing is great, so I have access to the website too, but not to lose 15,000 emails by changing my Hotmail to a different system.

So How Ever You Work it, up to now, which Mimics IMAP, yet Allows older Hotmail Posts to Display still in Thunderbird.

Thanks again, and I await a fix. I am not too technichal, now, as I Have Huntingtons Disease, and takes forever to type t5his,

Thanks and sorry for typos, and please correct me if I err..

Ralph :-)

On 29/07/2010 01:36, alanrf wrote:
Thunderbird has no problems accessing Hotmail if you use the Hotmail
POP/SMTP servers that are free to use for all Hotmail accounts
worldwide.

In fact Thunderbird will set up the correct server names/ports/secure
connections if you just let it.

On Jul 28, 2:07 pm, John Young<[email protected]>  wrote:
Yeah its not working for me either and I have installed the latest
update.

What I cannot understand is how come other e-mail clients have no
problem accessing hotmail when Thunderbird has so many problems

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