error alert !!! the above has a bit in the wrong place.

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I've had discussion about ideas with a few innovation academics: the
think i am on another planet when i tell them  the Tiddly IP is owned
by a charity. They don't believe me when I tell them about the TW
project.

 Is it common for Open Source projects? Is it common in R&D in
companies like BT?

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many appologies in many fields.
ALex


2009/2/21 Alex Hough <[email protected]>:
> Hi Paul,
>
> when I wrote
>
> "It would be interesting for the community to know what is going on
> behind the scenes with BT and Unamesa, to be privy to conversations
> and debates and to be able contribute."
>
> ... the word 'interesting' was not meant to allude to anything
> sinister. Rather 'interesting' from a business structure point of
> view. I've had discussion about ideas with a few innovation academics:
> the think i am on another planet when i tell them  the Tiddly IP is
> owned by a charity. They don't believe me when I tell them about the
> TW project.
>
> I can't contribute code, but have a research interest in creativity
> and organisational structure. I thought that I would be able to help
> in some way. I do appreciate that there is a difference in asking
> questions and delving into the workings of companies; the business of
> a business is their own business. I am not wanting to butt in, but i
> think that there is some genuinely interesting new ground and a model
> for community organisaton and cooperation that could be applied
> elsewhere.
>

>
> Alex
> ----
>
> When
>
> 2009/2/21 Paul Downey (psd) <[email protected]>:
>>
>> On Feb 21, 10:43 am, Alex Hough <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> With the unusual structure of the TiddlyWiki project, some interesting
>>> governance issues arise.
>>> Would it be in appropriate for these issues to be  discussed on the group?
>>>
>>> It would be interesting for the community to know what is going on
>>> behind the scenes with BT and Unamesa, to be privy to conversations
>>> and debates and to be able contribute.
>>
>> Crumbs that sounds quite sinister! Speaking for myself, and not for
>> BT, from where I sit the only thing going on behind closed the scenes
>> are stuff you'd expect to go on behind closed doors, e.g. sponsorship.
>> Beyond that I'm unaware of any hidden hand. There are no meetings in
>> Area 51. There is no Grassy Knoll :) If that doesn't reassure you,
>> then I suggest you start a thread with some specific concerns and we
>> can get someone from Osmosoft and UnaMesa to answer them.
>>
>> Note: if it's the technical direction of TiddlyWiki which worries you,
>> then that's a very different issue. TiddlyWiki is a fairly typical
>> Open Source project in that the direction is steered by developers
>> contributing trac tickets, patches, code, and Jeremy as our BDFL
>> taking editorial control. We now have other core committers including
>> Martin Budden and FND, but it's Jeremy who ultimately decides which
>> contributions are released and which remain as plugins, extensions and
>> forks. That path continues to be very transparent, and observable from
>> trac: http://trac.tiddlywiki.org/
>>
>> As in most any decision process there are discussions behind those
>> decisions taking place on trac, this and the developer mailing lists,
>> on irc, directly over email, IM and face to face discussion, sometimes
>> over frothy drinks. It's not always to the satisfaction of everybody,
>> but in life, nothing ever is! If you want to influence the discussion,
>> it's simple: choose a venue which suits you and continue to
>> contribute!
>>
>> Paul (psd)
>> --
>> http://blog.whatfettle.com
>> >>
>>
>
>
>
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