Eric and Wolfgang - Thank you very much for going into detail.
I now have a lot to work with for a longer period of time...

I succeded in uploading a TiddlyDesktop document following Wolfgangs
instructions, - but it is only editable (able to save) on a local copy
- because of the conflicting UploadPlugin... desktree.tiddlyspot.com
It's very sad if this bug will prevent TiddlyDesktop from beeing used
online and develloped further...
I hope someone will look into this issue. I know BidiX is a very busy
man. In spite of this he managed to help me setting his TiddlyHome up
- on my webhost about a year ago. There were some hostrelated
problems, which are solved now (switching host)...

There's a lot of things I have to investigate with the
MoveablePanelpackage....
How can I prevent the linktext in the branches (treeviewplugin) from
"shaking" for example?
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1064531/DeskTree/MoveTree.html

YS Måns Mårtensson



On 24 Sep., 09:08, Eric Shulman <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I really like the ability to use moveable tiddlers - and
> > TiddlyDesktops quick response and intuitive way of handling them. Is
> > it possible to make it work with TspotPlugin/UploadPlugin and in a
> > more or less "normal" TW-document?
>
> If you want to create a normal looking document with "tear off
> tiddlers", try this:
>
> First, install these plugins:
>    http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#MoveablePanelPlugin
>    http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#PanelManagerPlugin
>
> Then, edit your ViewTemplate and make two changes:
> 1) surround the current template layout inside of
>    <div class='moveablePanel'>
>       ...
>    </div>
> 2) Just inside the closing </div> above, add this line, which invokes
> a macro that adds the mouse-handling and other 'moveable' features to
> the tiddler:
>    <div macro='moveablePanel name:{{story.findContainingTiddler
> (place).getAttribute("tiddler")}} height:auto'></div>
>
> That's it... you can now move the mouse near the edge of any rendered
> tiddler and it will change to a 'four-arrows' cursor.   Dragging the
> tiddler 'undocks' it from it's default 'anchor' point in the story
> column, and allows you to place it *anywhere* on the page.
>
> When a tiddler is undocked, a special set of 'panel buttons' will
> appear next to the regular toolbar items:
>
> [√] 'docks' the tiddler (returning it to the story column)
> [X] closes the tiddler
> [≡] brings up the PanelManager menu
>
> The PanelManager includes lots of commands for controlling the
> moveable panels in your document, as well as creating named 'panel
> maps' that remember the positions of those panels and an interactive
> 'panel map viewer' that lets you view and manipulate your entire
> document using a "bird's eye view" graphical representation.
>
> Note: PanelManager is not *required* in order to give tiddlers basic
> moveability.  However, without it, the moveable panels have no
> 'memory'... when a tiddler panel is closed and then re-opened, it will
> revert to it's original, 'docked' position (which may be just what you
> want).
>
> If you don't want *all* tiddlers to be moveable, you could either use
>    http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#TaggedTemplateTweak
> and create a [[MoveableViewTemplate]] containing the changes described
> above, and then tag individual tiddlers with "moveable" to active the
> functionality for that tiddler.
>
> Alternatively, you can just add the macro:
>    <<moveablePanel>>
> directly into any individual tiddler to make just *that* tiddler
> moveable, even if no other tiddlers are.  You can also limit the
> moveable area to a specific portion of a tiddler's content by
> enclosing that part of the tiddler source within a CSS wrapper, and
> placing the <<moveablePanel>> macro at the end of that wrapper, like
> this:
>
> {{anyclassnamewillworkhere{
> ... your content ...
> <<moveablePanel>>}}}
>
> Note: I recommend that the enclosing CSS class include both
> "border:..." and "background-color:..." attributes, so that the
> moveable panel will be opaque against the other page content (so that
> it appears to float on top of them, rather than overlapping and
> blending together).
>
> enjoy,
> -e
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