Thank's for everyone's replies! I don't expect tiddlywiki to radically change. I want to tiddlywiki to modularize its functions, and maybe I can copy them in designing my own wiki. I want to dismantle tiddlywiki, and reconstruct my own wiki with aesthetics in mind from the get go (and interaction on small devices). I'll be happy if jQuery makes this easier by "standardizing" the feature set of tiddlywiki.
maybe there is room for a tiddlywiki 2, where we could demonstrate some radical new changes for modern browsers (without worrying about breaking support/compatibility). but I don't expect this. (just out of curiosity, other than jQuery, what sort of features/goals are in the roadmap for the current tiddlywiki build that is backwards- compatible?) I'm trying to find where html is lacking in designing an interactive application such as tiddlywiki. Is html5 sufficient as it is?--is it is enough to cleanly redefine tiddlywiki? I want to be able design with meaningful markup and progressive css. Markup has become so convoluted with "container" elements such as div and span that are added only in concern for styling. These are typically used to create complex, fragile layouts and user interactions with css. But I don't think these layouts nor the complicated markup used to create them are necessary to build well-designed websites/applications. Tiddlywiki has a 3-column layout designed with the desktop in mind. Instead of redesigning tiddlywiki for a mobile setting, why not build it so that is usable to everyone and perhaps progressively enhanced for people with more screen real-estate? I don't expect the tiddlywiki crew to answer all these questions. But I do hope you all working on it continue to modularize it. I hope that I can build a tiddlywiki someday (soon) as easily as I build conceptual templates with html and css: by progressively adding modularized javacript functionality to recreate tiddlywiki's functionality transparently with any design. If only these concepts were demo'd somewhere (i.e. an html file demonstrating the javascript for opening and closing tiddlers-- probably trivial). I did notice the save plugin was demo'd at http://jquery.tiddlywiki.org/, and I think this is a step in the right direction. Learning javascript from the bottom is hard when you know when what your trying to recreate is already very evolved and sophisticated. Once I can build designs more rapidly without working _around_ tiddlywiki, I will quickly discover which design is best. Tobias, good luck to what your working on! > containing core css definitions to nullify any default browser styles I never go this far when creating stylesheets, but I might try it someday. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---

