Max,

Later you can look at grouping here https://tiddlywiki.com/#GroupedLists

Regards
Tony

On Thursday, November 7, 2019 at 5:45:26 AM UTC+11, MaxGyver wrote:
>
> Thanks for clarifying!
>
> *<$list filter="[!is[system] untagged[]]">* was wrong!
> It must be* <$list filter="[untagged[]!is[system]]">* instead*.*
> That's very similar to *<$list 
> filter="[!is[system]!tag[Tag1]!tag[Tag2]!tag[Tag3]]">*.
>
> The latter is more complete. It contains the same tiddlers as the version 
> with *untagged[]* plus all tiddlers tagged for example:
>
>    - TableOfContents
>    - $:/tags/RawMarkup
>    - $:/tags/Stylesheet
>    - $:/tags/SideBar
>    - $:/tags/KeyboardShortcut
>
> These are not included in the regular table of contents nor in the 
> *untagged* group.
>
> So I'm going to keep using *<$list 
> filter="[!is[system]!tag[Tag1]!tag[Tag2]!tag[Tag3]]">*. I don't introduce 
> new tags that often :-)
>
> Am Mo., 4. Nov. 2019 um 23:07 Uhr schrieb Sylvain Comte <
> [email protected] <javascript:>>:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> By the way 
>>
>> * !has[tags] was not a good way to proceed. Only tiddlers WITHOUT a tags 
>> field will be listed. i.e. handcoded tiddlers since tw created ones always 
>> have a tags field,
>> * untagged[] is a better way and will give you also tiddlers with empty 
>> tags field,
>> * not sure about what !tag[Tag1]!tag[Tag2]!tag[Tag3] does differently in 
>> your case but I'd be interested by your investigations (system tags?)
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Sylvain
>> @sycom
>>
>> Le lun. 4 nov. 2019 à 22:15, MaxGyver <[email protected] 
>> <javascript:>> a écrit :
>>
>>> Thanks for your answers!
>>>  
>>>
>>>> You are after a list of tiddlers not tagged with a specific set of 
>>>> tags, rather than tagless tiddlers?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I want all tagless tiddlers because the table of contents only lists all 
>>> my tagged tiddlers.
>>>
>>> So a filter like !has[tags] or untagged[] seems to be fine.
>>>
>>> I would expect that these three filters return the same tiddlers 
>>> (because I only use three different tags so far):
>>>
>>>    1. <$list filter="[!is[system]!has[tags]]">
>>>    2. <$list filter="[!is[system]!tag[Tag1]!tag[Tag2]!tag[Tag3]]">
>>>    3. <$list filter="[!is[system] untagged[]]">
>>>
>>> But I get 12 vs. 45 vs. 77 tiddlers. I'll have a look into what the 
>>> tiddlers missing in list 1 and in list 2 have in common.
>>>
>>> And does anybody know how I get my filter into a foldable group like the 
>>> tag groups in the table of contents?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Max
>>>
>>>
>>> Am Sonntag, 3. November 2019 23:37:13 UTC+1 schrieb TonyM:
>>>>
>>>> To clarify
>>>>
>>>> You are after a list of tiddlers not tagged with a specific set of 
>>>> tags, rather than tagless tiddlers?
>>>>
>>>> then you wish to automate the addition of tags to the specific set of 
>>>> tags without editing wiki text?
>>>>
>>>> first I would start with a tag of tags E.g.: "tag group" and tag your 
>>>> specific set of tags. Add-on another specific tag by tagging it with the 
>>>> "tag group"
>>>>
>>>> This is not the full solution (I'm on my mobile) but consider the use 
>>>> of the subfilter operator.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Tony 
>>>>
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