Hi Alan, I was studying the TiddlyTables in last few days. This is a really great piece of work.
It uses the tiddler philosophy and one can learn Tiddlywiki scripting (wikitext language) by studying TiddlyTables. The way TiddlyTables uses to construct rows and columns and format them using template is amazing. The modular approach and the ease of extending it is awesome. It uses transclusion in many ways and produce a very complex dynamic table. Also, the plugin Task Manager which has been developed using TiddlyTables shows how powerful it is. I highly recommend to add more documentation to it and let TiddlyTable acts as la earning resource. Also ask Jeremy to add it to tiddlywiki.com resources (https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#Community). TiddlyTables can be also used for inspection and inline viewing and editing bulk of tiddlers. I used your approach and some of your templates to create macros as a very lite version in Shiraz 2.0.0 plugin called dynamic tables hopefully will be published in a very near future. Note: I would recommend to add your answers to questions raised in forum as documentation to tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com Best wishes Mohammad On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 10:52:20 AM UTC+4:30, Alan Aldrich wrote: > > Mohammed, > Absolutely! I will assume you wish to use the class element for styling > purposes and so I will focus on that. There are many options for styling a > table. After you create a new table, click the Edit button and display the > tables options, navigate to the first option under "Style" called "Template > (Stylesheet)". this page displays a dropdown with choices that correspond > to the stylesheets included in the plugin. The dropdown's value is stored > in the field "tbl-class" and you can manually edit this field with any > value you wish. an empty value will result in the table inheriting > TiddlyWiki's table styling. The easiest way to create a new stylesheet is > to clone $:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/style/standard and give it a new class > name (tbl-class-name). You will then see your new stylesheet as an option > on the dropdown. > > Keep this in mind. the class attribute defined in tbl-class is an > attribute on a div element that acts as a container for the table element. > This can be seen in: $:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/macro. > > Another option is to override parts of the selected stylesheet. In the > Edit menu navigate to "Override (Inline Styles)". Here you can enter css > properties for the table element or the div container that will take > priority over the stylesheet. > > Lastly, there are two more options Under "Style" in the Edit menu. "Column > Groups" and "Advanced Styles". > > - Column groups are useful for applying css properties to individual > columns. Here is some more info on that: > https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/colgroup > - Advanced Styles documents a method for applying a style to an > individual row in a table. > > Thank you for your questions and feedback Mohammad. I hope this helps, > Alan > > > On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 12:16:05 AM UTC-5, Mohammad wrote: >> >> Thanks Arlen! TiddlyTables is a great contribution! >> >> One question: Is it possible to simply add classes or override the >> default classes for Tables? >> >> --Mohammad >> >> On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 8:22:35 AM UTC+4:30, Alan Aldrich >> wrote: >>> >>> All, >>> Thank you for your feedback. I couldn't agree more that the >>> documentation for TiddlyTables needs improvement. I will try my best to do >>> so in future releases. I have tried to integrate some of the documentation >>> into the Edit menu. Advanced Styles, Advanced Features, More Columns and >>> Getting Started all contain helpful information, but more is on the way. In >>> the meantime, I started writing down a few paragraphs to cover a couple of >>> the more advanced topics. I highly recommend reading through it and walking >>> through the example I give. It can be found here: >>> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/#Digging%20deeper%20into%20TiddlyTables >>> >>> Another resource is the task manager example plugin (shown in the >>> sidebar) which illustrates most of TiddlyTable's use cases. It consists of >>> three separate tables, one nested inside the other: >>> >>> $:/plugins/aaldrich/task-manager/realm-table >>> $:/plugins/aaldrich/task-manager/project-table >>> $:/plugins/aaldrich/task-manager/task-table >>> >>> To enable the Edit menu for these tables, change the value of the field >>> "tbl-show-edit" to "true" for each. This will enable the "Edit" button, >>> making it easier to see how these tables were built and how they work >>> together. >>> >>> Let me know if this information was helpful and/or if there are any >>> other topics I should focus on in lieu of formal documentation. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Alan >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 10:49:01 PM UTC-5, Alan Aldrich wrote: >>>> >>>> Tony, >>>> I am putting together some info that may clarify some of your questions >>>> and will post that next, but I want to speak to a couple of your bullet >>>> points: >>>> >>>> >>>> - A Table of tables filter `[contains:text[<<table>>]]` I did not >>>> expect that to work give the special meaning of < and > >>>> >>>> I have not played much with the contains operator, but I am also >>>> pleasantly surprised to see that you can put virtually anything in as its >>>> parameter and it will search for it. not only will it do < and > but you >>>> can search on just about any symbol except square brackets. This of course >>>> has nothing to do with my plugin, but with the contains operator. The >>>> filter you mention here is searching all tiddlers "text" fields for >>>> <<table>> which is a fairly safe way to determine if the tiddler is a >>>> table >>>> or not. >>>> >>>> - I am not sure if I can change the template for the title column >>>> for a specific table? >>>> >>>> You absolutely can and this is what makes TiddlyTables so powerful. >>>> Basically, the elements of the table are all modular and are controlled by >>>> templates. I will go into detail about editing templates in my next post, >>>> but the template that controls the body of the title column >>>> is: $:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/template/body/title. >>>> >>>> >>>> I note you can place any table in the sidebar with $:/tags/SideBar >>>> but you need to set the tiddler >>>> eg >>>> <$tiddler tiddler="Has Changed"> >>>> <<table>> >>>> </$tiddler> >>>> >>>> Let me explain what is happening here. A TiddlyTable gets its >>>> parameters from the fields that are created when the table is created. >>>> Essentially, a table requires its own tiddler to store these fields. We >>>> can >>>> call them "table tiddlers". Notice when you click the table button a new >>>> tiddler is created and it contains the default table. If you edit this >>>> tiddler you will see its text is just <<table>> and it has 29 fields that >>>> serve as its parameters. When you set TiddlerA's text to use the tiddler >>>> widget like you show here, what you are really asking is for TiddlyTables >>>> to store these 29 parameters to a Tiddler called "Has Changed" but render >>>> in TiddlerA. The same effect can be achieved using transclusion, and in >>>> the >>>> case of using "$:/tags/SideBar" the table MUST be transcluded or it >>>> will not find the parameters its looking for. This is a limitation of the >>>> "non-standard" implementation of macros I am using, and I mention it in >>>> Known Issues/Limitations. My next post will have a link in it that >>>> describes this further. >>>> >>>> These are great questions, keep them coming! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 1:44:19 AM UTC-5, TonyM wrote: >>>>> >>>>> For fun whilst learning more on TiddlyTables >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> - SImply put it is a new way of looking at any filter >>>>> - A Table of tables filter `[contains:text[<<table>>]]` I did not >>>>> expect that to work give the special meaning of < and > >>>>> - Are tables totally self contained? Looks like it, The advantage >>>>> is TiddlyTables plus a bunch of tables to access various system >>>>> information >>>>> would be very helpful >>>>> - I am not sure if I can change the template for the title column >>>>> for a specific table? >>>>> >>>>> I note you can place any table in the sidebar with $:/tags/SideBar >>>>> but you need to set the tiddler >>>>> eg >>>>> <$tiddler tiddler="Has Changed"> >>>>> <<table>> >>>>> </$tiddler> >>>>> >>>>> I will keep exploring this. >>>>> >>>>> I would like to see a one button create table from filter. >>>>> >>>>> Tony >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 3:53:36 PM UTC+10, TonyM wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Alan, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, I am just exploring the possibilities of tiddlytables. Since >>>>>> the minimum one needs is a filter it is a great way to simply list >>>>>> tiddlers >>>>>> of any type. But then a custom table with custom fields can expose other >>>>>> details. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I also appreciate the drop down on the *Query Records* (tbl-filter) >>>>>> - filter syntax >>>>>> Quite a few people have being asking for help for writing filters and >>>>>> you have already done it. >>>>>> >>>>>> It would be great in an editor toolbar button as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> A simple example is >>>>>> [all[shadows]prefix[$:/info]!prefix[$:/info/browser]] [[$:/info/ >>>>>> browser/name]] >>>>>> >>>>>> and show the text field. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Tony >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 2:58:04 PM UTC+10, Alan Aldrich >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have uploaded a new version of TiddlyTables that includes a >>>>>>> confirmation when deleting. Thank you for your excellent comments and >>>>>>> feedback. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Alan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 6:17:44 PM UTC-5, Diego Mesa wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hey Alan, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I see that your plugin uses the ActionDeleteTiddlerWidget: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#ActionDeleteTiddlerWidget >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> According to the docs: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There are several differences compared to the WidgetMessage: >>>>>>>>> tm-delete-tiddler >>>>>>>>> <https://tiddlywiki.com/#WidgetMessage%3A%20tm-delete-tiddler>: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - *The user is not prompted to confirm the deletion* >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - No automatic updating of the story list >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - No special handling of draft tiddlers >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think switching deletion to the tm-delete-tiddler message would >>>>>>>> handle the confirmation. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>> Diego >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 11:02:47 AM UTC-5, Alan Aldrich >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I agree the delete column should have a confirmation. I will try >>>>>>>>> to get that in the next version. Do you know of a simple and standard >>>>>>>>> way >>>>>>>>> to accomplish this? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/cb4c49c3-2762-435c-a27f-df6dab82da13%40googlegroups.com.
