Wow, Tony, thanks so much! I've just poked around the learning edition a 
bit, and have enjoyed it so far. I hope your site will help get me ahead of 
the curve, though the big dive will probably wait for summer. For now I 
have to find the right balance between indulging my geek-impulse (to 
understand TW5 well) and responsibly learning just enough (for now) so that 
I can back to *using* (and developing bottom-line content for) the site 
that I'll be teaching out of in just a couple weeks. After years of 
teaching my big course out of TW Classic for about forever (since 2005 
actually), it's hard to imagine any other way of organizing information for 
students. 

I'm still grieving the loss of something like Clint Checkett's Redirect 
macro, for reasons much like those mentioned by tobaisch a couple years ago 
(in a post to which you responded), and I'm perplexed that nothing like it 
seems possible with TW5. But in all other ways, TW5 is looking like such a 
runaway boost to everything I already loved about TW Classic!

Best,

-Springer

On Saturday, December 28, 2019 at 10:54:55 PM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
>
> Springer,
>
> I may have mentioned I went through the same as you, making the big jump 
> from TWC to TW5 in part you will need to unlearn things. Much more can be 
> done in native TW5 than in TWC which demanded plugins a lot more. I can 
> recommend downloading a full copy of tiddlywiki.com and making it your 
> own to read and experiment. Perhaps tag the doco you understand and need to 
> review. I built an earlier version which contains customisations and 
> plugins you may want to study https://tiddlywiki.psat.com.au/learn/
>
> Fee free to ask how here of course.
>
> Tony
>
>
> On Sunday, December 29, 2019 at 1:34:45 PM UTC+11, springer wrote:
>>
>> Tony, thanks! I did just post about it earlier this evening, with a link 
>> to my site <http://ethicsatwes.tiddlyspot.com/#units>. 
>>
>> I'll look into currentTab... It sounds like I should rewrite my 
>> templates, but I'm still just barely treading water with my upgrade 
>> process. I'm still very far from getting up to speed with TW5 widgets and 
>> macros, and have been cobbling together solutions found on others' pages, 
>> with minor patches...
>>
>> On Saturday, December 28, 2019 at 8:19:37 PM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> Springer,
>>>
>>> Do detail your issue re tabs, because I think we may already have a 
>>> solution for tabs, it uses a template to transclude tabs and there is a 
>>> variable called currentTab available inside each tab.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tony
>>>
>>> On Sunday, December 29, 2019 at 11:12:32 AM UTC+11, springer wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Tony, I have a feeling your challenge may be related to my question 
>>>> about finding a way for transclusions to "behave" as I would hope them to 
>>>> when the tiddlers they're in get rendered as tabs, etc. Yes? I'll watch 
>>>> this post... Cheers.
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, December 23, 2019 at 7:01:11 PM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Folks,
>>>>>
>>>>> To cut a long story short I wanted to challenge the group to see if 
>>>>> there is a way to extract a tiddler title from an intermediate 
>>>>> transclude. 
>>>>> attached and Illustrated below;
>>>>>
>>>>> *Why?*
>>>>> Because in a number of new methods I am developing this is a gap in 
>>>>> what I can do to simplify the sophisticated (but simple) use of 
>>>>> transclusions. Such a solution could make even smarter transclude methods 
>>>>> available and reduce the code needed to achieve them, or the need for 
>>>>> changes in the core to expand designer options when building wikis.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are three tiddlers you can create on Tiddlywiki.com (use JSON 
>>>>> file if you want)
>>>>>
>>>>> Display tiddler
>>>>> <h2>Display Tiddler</h2>
>>>>> Current Tiddler=<<currentTiddler>><br>
>>>>> Display Tiddler=<<storyTiddler>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ;Simple Transclude (1)
>>>>> {{||intermediate}}
>>>>>
>>>>> ;Transclude with tiddlername (2)
>>>>> {{tiddlername||intermediate}}
>>>>>
>>>>> intermediate tiddler
>>>>> \define intermediate() intermediate
>>>>> <h2>Intermediate Tiddler</h2>
>>>>> Intermediate Tiddler=<<intermediate>><br>
>>>>> Current Tiddler=<<currentTiddler>><br>
>>>>> Display Tiddler=<<storyTiddler>>
>>>>>
>>>>> {{||final}}
>>>>>
>>>>> final tiddler
>>>>> <h2>final tiddler</h2>
>>>>>
>>>>> <h3>How can I find the tiddler name of the intermediate tiddler 
>>>>> here?</h3>
>>>>> Intermediate Tiddler=<<intermediate>><br>
>>>>> Current Tiddler=<<currentTiddler>><br>
>>>>> Display Tiddler=<<storyTiddler>>
>>>>>
>>>>> One solution is to edit the intermediate tiddler as in the example and 
>>>>> define a variable based on a literal 
>>>>> \define intermediate() intermediate
>>>>> as included in the above.
>>>>>
>>>>> *However*
>>>>>
>>>>>    - I am looking for a way to avoid editing the intermediate tiddler 
>>>>>    to provide its name as a literal
>>>>>       - I would accept a programmatic way to store the intermediate 
>>>>>       name in intermediate but ideally I would like to avoid editing 
>>>>>       "intermediate" at all 
>>>>>    - Is there a way to derive this intermediate tiddler title by 
>>>>>    other means in final?
>>>>>    - What if there was a second intermediate tiddler?
>>>>>
>>>>> *Hacking*
>>>>>
>>>>>    - Perhaps there is a way to get/set the last tiddler "doing the 
>>>>>    transclude" in "final"  by altering the transclude mechanism?
>>>>>    - What if we could somehow determine the full branch used to get 
>>>>>    to any level deep
>>>>>       - eg (in final) display intermediate final
>>>>>       or (in final) display $:/core/ui/Buttons/edit final
>>>>>    
>>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Tony
>>>>>
>>>>

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