Springer,

Please describe "Clint Checkett's Redirect macro" because I have no idea 
what it does, so I can't give an indicator if there is a method to replace 
it. I am sure I know more than I used to with TW5.

Regards
Tony

On Sunday, December 29, 2019 at 4:00:44 PM UTC+11, springer wrote:
>
> Wow, Tony, thanks so much! I've just poked around the learning edition a 
> bit, and have enjoyed it so far. I hope your site will help get me ahead of 
> the curve, though the big dive will probably wait for summer. For now I 
> have to find the right balance between indulging my geek-impulse (to 
> understand TW5 well) and responsibly learning just enough (for now) so that 
> I can back to *using* (and developing bottom-line content for) the site 
> that I'll be teaching out of in just a couple weeks. After years of 
> teaching my big course out of TW Classic for about forever (since 2005 
> actually), it's hard to imagine any other way of organizing information for 
> students. 
>
> I'm still grieving the loss of something like Clint Checkett's Redirect 
> macro, for reasons much like those mentioned by tobaisch a couple years ago 
> (in a post to which you responded), and I'm perplexed that nothing like it 
> seems possible with TW5. But in all other ways, TW5 is looking like such a 
> runaway boost to everything I already loved about TW Classic!
>
> Best,
>
> -Springer
>
> On Saturday, December 28, 2019 at 10:54:55 PM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Springer,
>>
>> I may have mentioned I went through the same as you, making the big jump 
>> from TWC to TW5 in part you will need to unlearn things. Much more can be 
>> done in native TW5 than in TWC which demanded plugins a lot more. I can 
>> recommend downloading a full copy of tiddlywiki.com and making it your 
>> own to read and experiment. Perhaps tag the doco you understand and need to 
>> review. I built an earlier version which contains customisations and 
>> plugins you may want to study https://tiddlywiki.psat.com.au/learn/
>>
>> Fee free to ask how here of course.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, December 29, 2019 at 1:34:45 PM UTC+11, springer wrote:
>>>
>>> Tony, thanks! I did just post about it earlier this evening, with a link 
>>> to my site <http://ethicsatwes.tiddlyspot.com/#units>. 
>>>
>>> I'll look into currentTab... It sounds like I should rewrite my 
>>> templates, but I'm still just barely treading water with my upgrade 
>>> process. I'm still very far from getting up to speed with TW5 widgets and 
>>> macros, and have been cobbling together solutions found on others' pages, 
>>> with minor patches...
>>>
>>> On Saturday, December 28, 2019 at 8:19:37 PM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Springer,
>>>>
>>>> Do detail your issue re tabs, because I think we may already have a 
>>>> solution for tabs, it uses a template to transclude tabs and there is a 
>>>> variable called currentTab available inside each tab.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Tony
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, December 29, 2019 at 11:12:32 AM UTC+11, springer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Tony, I have a feeling your challenge may be related to my question 
>>>>> about finding a way for transclusions to "behave" as I would hope them to 
>>>>> when the tiddlers they're in get rendered as tabs, etc. Yes? I'll watch 
>>>>> this post... Cheers.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, December 23, 2019 at 7:01:11 PM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Folks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To cut a long story short I wanted to challenge the group to see if 
>>>>>> there is a way to extract a tiddler title from an intermediate 
>>>>>> transclude. 
>>>>>> attached and Illustrated below;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Why?*
>>>>>> Because in a number of new methods I am developing this is a gap in 
>>>>>> what I can do to simplify the sophisticated (but simple) use of 
>>>>>> transclusions. Such a solution could make even smarter transclude 
>>>>>> methods 
>>>>>> available and reduce the code needed to achieve them, or the need for 
>>>>>> changes in the core to expand designer options when building wikis.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here are three tiddlers you can create on Tiddlywiki.com (use JSON 
>>>>>> file if you want)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Display tiddler
>>>>>> <h2>Display Tiddler</h2>
>>>>>> Current Tiddler=<<currentTiddler>><br>
>>>>>> Display Tiddler=<<storyTiddler>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ;Simple Transclude (1)
>>>>>> {{||intermediate}}
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ;Transclude with tiddlername (2)
>>>>>> {{tiddlername||intermediate}}
>>>>>>
>>>>>> intermediate tiddler
>>>>>> \define intermediate() intermediate
>>>>>> <h2>Intermediate Tiddler</h2>
>>>>>> Intermediate Tiddler=<<intermediate>><br>
>>>>>> Current Tiddler=<<currentTiddler>><br>
>>>>>> Display Tiddler=<<storyTiddler>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> {{||final}}
>>>>>>
>>>>>> final tiddler
>>>>>> <h2>final tiddler</h2>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <h3>How can I find the tiddler name of the intermediate tiddler 
>>>>>> here?</h3>
>>>>>> Intermediate Tiddler=<<intermediate>><br>
>>>>>> Current Tiddler=<<currentTiddler>><br>
>>>>>> Display Tiddler=<<storyTiddler>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One solution is to edit the intermediate tiddler as in the example 
>>>>>> and define a variable based on a literal 
>>>>>> \define intermediate() intermediate
>>>>>> as included in the above.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *However*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    - I am looking for a way to avoid editing the intermediate 
>>>>>>    tiddler to provide its name as a literal
>>>>>>       - I would accept a programmatic way to store the intermediate 
>>>>>>       name in intermediate but ideally I would like to avoid editing 
>>>>>>       "intermediate" at all 
>>>>>>    - Is there a way to derive this intermediate tiddler title by 
>>>>>>    other means in final?
>>>>>>    - What if there was a second intermediate tiddler?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Hacking*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    - Perhaps there is a way to get/set the last tiddler "doing the 
>>>>>>    transclude" in "final"  by altering the transclude mechanism?
>>>>>>    - What if we could somehow determine the full branch used to get 
>>>>>>    to any level deep
>>>>>>       - eg (in final) display intermediate final
>>>>>>       or (in final) display $:/core/ui/Buttons/edit final
>>>>>>    
>>>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Tony
>>>>>>
>>>>>

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