TT,

I have no desire to defend anything, and quite prepared to acknowledge 
difference, my "empirical observations" differ from yours at least when it 
comes to Australia. My main point is the difference between two severe 
crisis, in quick succession (Fire then Virus). Each which resulted in 
different community behaviours. Thus it is hard to explain it with cultural 
explanations, but the information availability appears to be the 
difference. We have had a very good fire awareness building for decades.

I did not notice this until recent reflections, because a personal interest 
of mine has being virus and disease management and them in history, you 
could say I am reasonably well informed on this matter (although we all 
learn more every day) and as a result I did not panic, and did not 
understand why others would. Now I realise the average person is not so 
well informed on this subject and its somewhat understandable. 

I don't doubt the circumstances are different across countries, lived 
experience, culture and location. Australia is after all an island 
continent, unlike Italy on the doorstep of many countries.  Did you know we 
use the term "overseas" which is equivalent to "international" because 
there is no difference for us? I was Surprised when I saw my first 
international train station because we have no international trains, they 
are impossible here.

I would add I think it is a failing in Australia that we have not had more 
disease awareness especially after international Ebola, SARS, MERS, Bird 
flu etc... But MRSA and the Hendra Virus locally should have triggered 
better public understanding.

Regards
Tony

Hendra virus

Hendra virus is a paramyxovirus first isolated in 1994 from an outbreak of 
respiratory and neurologic disease in horses and humans in Hendra, a suburb 
of Brisbane, Australia. This virus is thought to be carried by bats of the 
genus *Pteropus*. Horses become infected through contact with bats and 
their droppings or secretions.

Hendra virus infection in horses produces an initial respiratory infection 
and can progress to neurologic signs and total systemic failure. These 
clinical signs are mirrored in human Hendra infection. The three cases 
reported in humans to date include two veterinarians and a trainer, two of 
which died. Humans caring for infected horses are exposed to body fluids 
and excretions and can easily become infected. Severe flu-like symptoms 
quickly develop. The globalization of the equine market makes disease 
transmission across continents, including the Hendra virus, a more serious 
threat.

On Tuesday, March 17, 2020 at 9:33:04 AM UTC+11, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Ciao TonyM
>
> It's an empirical matter. At the level of infection in OZ the panic buying 
> there in places is more than lack of info. Same as USA. It's an expression 
> of an attitude. Italy has over 17000 cases and has had no marked panic yet. 
>
> Your point was "lack of information" sparked it. No different here with 
> lockdown.  There was little info in advance and no extreme shopping.
>
> Of course I don't know definitely. But nothing wrong acknowledge 
> difference where it looks clear.
>
> This no way obviates OZ is great :-)
>
> TT, x
>
>
>

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