Birthe & all, Birthe C wrote: > > TT. > >> - can we look after the ill AND not have lockdown for the whole society? >> >> > Sure. Right now when the system gets overwhelmed we deselect the old and > sick. With less and less health workers surviving, you would of course > have to deselect more and more groups from getting treatment. (Resulting in > many more death) > Would you be able to find any more volunteers to do the treatments? >
Probably. The Lombardy region asked for volunteers and 3,000 retired, unemployed or part-time health care workers volunteered. Several retired volunteer doctors died already. Another factor is equipment & supplies. Fiat factories in Italy are tooling up for mask production since Italy does not currently produce its own. Ventilators too with other companies. - what are the consequences of lock-down economically? >> >> > Higher than we know I am sure. Leaving every country with a hefty depth, > peoples savings have vanished and the pension savings will have lost in > value. > *Hopefully capacity to cope will improve*. As will treatments. Alpha interferons look promising. Asian countries trialed them first in combo with other drugs. And Cuba has been for a long time (Cuba has more doctors working internationally than any other proportionately; and extensively worked with epidemics in recent decades). Some cities in the West do have empty large buildings. Here we have a whole unused hospital. The rough thinking is to bring it back into use and use it specifically for covid for the region. > - given that the virus will "wave" after lockdown repeatedly do you think >> it is viable to lockdown repeatedly? >> >> Hm. Not having lock down does not mean that people have the money or > demands for the same products. > Not knowing if the hairdresser is infectious, would you go for a blond > treatment, having the highlighted stripes, the hair extension and some tan. > It might be a "beauty to die for" > So a big issue, if not the issue, is to *increase capacity* so that survival rates improve. You are right that after lockdown the economy is likely to be damaged from trepidation. Italy is awash with family run tavernos. My small city (40k) has 40 of them just in the main city. Trepidation may well devastate them. I asked friends to guess how many businesses here in Gorizia will never re-open, a kind of local bet. I guess 10% - 20%. They think it could be higher. Right now I need dental treatment. Dentists are shut. If its an emergency I would have to risk the emergency hospital. *Lock-down is about both coping now and capacity building for the future*. If you don't do that you can get in a viscous cycle. If you don't get back to work too, as well as reduce social isolation, it may be worse. Italy has High numbers of very old people who live alone totally unused to isolation. Who socialise daily and never before experienced this kind of situation. I haven't been able to look yet at "consequent" factors like suicide rates. Over financial ruin, on intense alienation from society, over just being very old and feeling you a burden etc I'm a person who likes being alone. And even I am going "stir-crazy". Best wishes TT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/387381a0-dce6-417f-9bed-14745bd734bc%40googlegroups.com.
